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Is war inevitable in today's society ?

missoni 2012/05/16 02:23:33
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This question is in relation to interstate war. Perhaps using both World Wars and more recently the Iraq war as examples. Its primarily when another country is invaded, thus seeing the death of both military personnel and civilians.

Is war inevitable?

According to President Jimmy Carter, many Americans thought that the end of war arrived in 1945 with the organization of the United Nations. Six decades years later, we know that wasn't the case. Some, likeMargaret Atwood, believe that our economy depends on the economic profits of war. Others think it's part of human nature. But Scientific American writer John Horgan disagrees. He thinks the end of war is within reach.

I predict that if we see war as a choice, and not as something that is foisted on us by forces beyond our control, and if we do all we can to end war, we will succeed. We reason that the best way to achieve peace is to arm ourselves and even attack potential enemies before they attack us. We need to recognize the fallacy of this sort of logic, which in the nuclear era poses a threat to our very existence.

Horgan's book The End of War inspired WNYC's ongoing series of the same name, in which academics, authors and writers give their take on why we continue to solve conflicts with violence.


I am using this question for my thesis in a university assignment and would love to hear the opinions of all members on Sodahead. Please choose 'Yes' or 'No' and try to provide a reasoning for your chosen answer. Thanks a lot everyone.


Read More: http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/cifamerica...

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  • dani 2012/05/16 03:46:14
    No
    dani
    +6
    Nothing evil and twisted is needed. No matter what way you look at it. (If you have your head on straight) ... however there are alot of twisted people.

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  • Bastion 2013/04/26 17:13:32
    Yes
    Bastion
    As long as the very rich insist on getting richer, and the religious insist on overpopulation, war is inevitable.

    surviving progress
  • tywon.smith 2012/05/23 01:32:39
    Yes
    tywon.smith
    But I wish it wasnt!
  • Ryoka∞Boy 2012/05/21 10:05:41
    No
    Ryoka∞Boy
    War brings nothing good.Only bad.
  • Crime Time 2012/05/21 06:51:45
    Undecided
    Crime Time
    Ugh, meant yes.. unfortunately so
  • HAlex1972 2012/05/20 10:03:56
    Yes
    HAlex1972
    Yes, when the defense contractors will do anything to stay in business, then war is, indeed, inevitable.
  • beach bum 2012/05/20 01:59:35
    Yes
    beach bum
    unfortunately it is the answer for some
  • mwg0735 2012/05/18 02:19:43
  • Chanch 2012/05/17 23:41:02
    Yes
    Chanch
    I think that war is not necessarily from outside entities. The next war could very easily be within our borders amoung our people. Primarily between the blacks and the whites. Then there are the hispanic,homosexuals, religious entities as well. The US is so sensitive to so many issues right now that it is like a tender box. Everybody has their special interests that they are blinded by. Terrible but true. I hope not , but.........
  • Walter Harris 2012/05/17 22:56:26
    Yes
    Walter Harris
    as long as one person misunderstands or is jealous another, there will be war.
  • jake 2012/05/17 22:19:10 (edited)
    Yes
    jake
    As long as radical muslims don't recognize the right for christians and jews to exist in peace, communists oppress their people, and men can hold positions where their power is not limited. Unlimited POWER is the reason for all civil unrest. That is why the founding fathers made sure to keep any one man or branch of government from being too powerful. The United States is a young country, but it has has the longest [stable] continuous governmental system in history. Even the all the European nations with chip's on their shoulders and thoughts of superiority can't remain competent without switching away from socialism. Liberty is the only way to make war as scarce as possible, and concentrated power will always be the enemy of liberty.
  • Blackjack 2012/05/17 22:04:14
    Yes
    Blackjack
    The next war is around the corner
  • Kazaira 2012/05/17 05:55:18
    No
    Kazaira
    +1
    Make love not war :P
  • Connect... Kazaira 2012/05/24 10:23:23
    Connectification
    John Lennon fan too, huh
  • Kazaira Connect... 2012/07/25 15:55:12
    Kazaira
    not really LOL :O
  • joshua ben-ami 2012/05/17 01:21:09
    Undecided
    joshua ben-ami
    +1
    depends on too many factors, until recently wars were pretty much used for economic benefit to the victor, but with military actions controlled by political agenda's that are ever changing that may no longer hold true
  • DFA 2012/05/16 23:27:36
    Yes
    DFA
    +1
    War is caused by idiots. Sad thing to die for.
  • Alien Ramone 2012/05/16 22:05:11
    No
    Alien Ramone
    +1
    The United States doesn't have to be in any wars right now.
  • HiddenDVS1027 2012/05/16 20:13:11
    Yes
    HiddenDVS1027
    +1
    You can not have peace without war!!!
  • Ed 2012/05/16 19:58:11
    Yes
    Ed
    +1
    "Today's" society is not as wise, advanced nor equal amongst nations as we would like to believe. Poverty, greed, hunger, sin and plain evil still exist and should be exterminated. If war is the course of this, so mote it be.
  • Superman 2012/05/16 19:19:22
    Yes
    Superman
    +1
    Peace can be achieved, but its almost impossible as the differences of opinion on this planet are still so strong.

    Simply deciding not to never wage war is naive. Disarming or reducing production unilaterally puts the onus of trust on another entity to control the situation. From any standpoint thats potentially dangerous. Realistically disarmament needs to be a mutual agreement between all parties involved so that each individual state can have an equal portion of trust in the arrangement.

    While hope is nice, it isn't a defense. The most important issue for world peace is the acknowledgement or recognition that not everyone is motivated in the same fashion. There are bad people out there that would abuse power. As long as people like that exist there can be no peace. And as long as well meaning people do nothing about those people there can be no peace.

    I believe that the vision of peace a lot of people share in this day and age is more of an out of sight out of mind situation. As long as my country isn't involved, as long as we're not pulling triggers or taking hits then we're all good. Thats not true world peace. Thats avoidance.

    The ability and the will to wage war needs to exist to either deter the weaker "strongmen" that would abuse peace and ignorance or t...





    Peace can be achieved, but its almost impossible as the differences of opinion on this planet are still so strong.

    Simply deciding not to never wage war is naive. Disarming or reducing production unilaterally puts the onus of trust on another entity to control the situation. From any standpoint thats potentially dangerous. Realistically disarmament needs to be a mutual agreement between all parties involved so that each individual state can have an equal portion of trust in the arrangement.

    While hope is nice, it isn't a defense. The most important issue for world peace is the acknowledgement or recognition that not everyone is motivated in the same fashion. There are bad people out there that would abuse power. As long as people like that exist there can be no peace. And as long as well meaning people do nothing about those people there can be no peace.

    I believe that the vision of peace a lot of people share in this day and age is more of an out of sight out of mind situation. As long as my country isn't involved, as long as we're not pulling triggers or taking hits then we're all good. Thats not true world peace. Thats avoidance.

    The ability and the will to wage war needs to exist to either deter the weaker "strongmen" that would abuse peace and ignorance or to defend against the stronger bad leaders that have the will to act. The issue is making the proper choice on when to act.

    That is the hardest issue. Its easy to react when threatened. Even a lot of people here who would say war is no longer needed would react to a threat if it happens. That alone undermines the strength of their opinions - its a wish and not a conviction. But the harder question to ask is to act before something happens. To do so will court great anger and the potential to become the villain. But at the same time look at the world today, look at the real oppression that takes place outside safe western borders. What would happen if the majority of the worlds powers unified and said no more? What if dictator x that stones gays and tortures women faced down the threat of force of all combined world powers? The preemption is it not? And would not striking down one of those leaders have the potential to end a threat that undermines world peace?

    Partially. The second issue is economics. The west is relatively happy. Sure we complain daily about taxes or culture or what not, but in the end by and large we're doing fine. By comparison to other parts of the world that is. In other parts of the world hope is dinner, not the newest film or video game. Until the world is a solid economy where hope has evened out we'll still have the threat of war. Thats what fed WWII. If there is national despair then you'll have people willing to die for a cause or a new banner or simply because they don't hold their lives worth that much. Its in these situations where bad men rise and abuse that power.

    World Peace isn't as simple as putting down our guns and hoping for the best.
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  • missoni Superman 2012/05/18 04:13:04
    missoni
    +1
    thank you that was great
  • Superman missoni 2012/05/18 13:59:53
    Superman
    You're welcome. Good luck!
  • Mark Mercer 2012/05/16 19:04:58
    No
    Mark Mercer
    +2
    Stupidity can be exercised in other ways....
  • gregaj7 2012/05/16 18:29:10
    No
    gregaj7
    +2
    Smedley Butler: "War is a racket".
  • Hasna 2012/05/16 18:21:45
    No
    Hasna
    +2
    war is not good for the attacker and the victim
  • Temlakos~POTL~PWCM~JLA~☆ 2012/05/16 18:00:29
    Yes
    Temlakos~POTL~PWCM~JLA~☆
    +2
    War comes to us. As long as berserkers, and a berserker ideology to drive them, continue to exist, war will remain.

    Only Jesus will abolish war.
  • MorbidCynic 2012/05/16 17:10:48
    Yes
    MorbidCynic
    +2
    There will always be war, like it or not
  • TheTruth1313 2012/05/16 17:09:49
    Yes
    TheTruth1313
    +2
    Sadly, there will be situations where there will not be another way.
  • kurtanderson1 2012/05/16 16:53:10
    Yes
    kurtanderson1
    +2
    Unfortunately.....
  • Chase Martin 2012/05/16 16:51:51
    No
    Chase Martin
    +2
    its not needed...but inevitable and will benefit humanity :{
  • Freeranger 2012/05/16 16:42:07
    Yes
    Freeranger
    +1
    Sadly, I think so. It becomes inevitable when evil lurks and forments to overthrow or subjugate free men. As has been said, it's what happens when good men stand by and do nothing.
    That said, whatever your premise your remarks with, I'd never use Jimmy Carter.
  • Pronata... Freeranger 2012/05/16 17:43:41
    Pronatalist Pronatalist
    Yes, that's what I thought. The liberal idiot, Jimmy Carter, isn't a credible source for anything, well other than his own idiot quotes.

    I answered No, of course the question is so vague, it depends a lot upon how it's worded. If the wicked would just repent, there would be no war.

    There's the theory of the morally just, defensive war, which I think U.S. has lost that claim, with endless (undeclared) wars and false flags like "9-11 was an inside job."--Alex Jones

    Didn't Patrick Henry cry out, "Give me liberty or give me death?" Better to fight, than to be a slave and end up dying anyway.

    Governments use violence and threat of kidnapping and putting people in cages (prisons) for daring to disagree with the wicked politicians. We must fight against that, hopefully, when possible, by peaceful means.

    I also believe it the duty of man, to multiply naturally, without "birth control," within responsible marriage of course, in order to spread human life and allow far more people to experience life. The world is growing way too crowded for war. With the number of people alive who need some stable place to live and work, I do wish that clever peacemakers would soon prevail, and that man would do a better job subduing nature rather than each other. But until the "last" war, Armageddon, which ...
    Yes, that's what I thought. The liberal idiot, Jimmy Carter, isn't a credible source for anything, well other than his own idiot quotes.

    I answered No, of course the question is so vague, it depends a lot upon how it's worded. If the wicked would just repent, there would be no war.

    There's the theory of the morally just, defensive war, which I think U.S. has lost that claim, with endless (undeclared) wars and false flags like "9-11 was an inside job."--Alex Jones

    Didn't Patrick Henry cry out, "Give me liberty or give me death?" Better to fight, than to be a slave and end up dying anyway.

    Governments use violence and threat of kidnapping and putting people in cages (prisons) for daring to disagree with the wicked politicians. We must fight against that, hopefully, when possible, by peaceful means.

    I also believe it the duty of man, to multiply naturally, without "birth control," within responsible marriage of course, in order to spread human life and allow far more people to experience life. The world is growing way too crowded for war. With the number of people alive who need some stable place to live and work, I do wish that clever peacemakers would soon prevail, and that man would do a better job subduing nature rather than each other. But until the "last" war, Armageddon, which some YouTube video made a very good case is necessary as it's a fight for freedom from the evil forces of tyranny, New World Order criminal elitists will likely be stoking up the war drums, because of their evil, greed, deceptions, for profits and lust of power, and their declaration in the Georgia Guidestones that we supposedly need to "MAINTAIN HUMANITY UNDER 500,000,000 IN PERPETUAL BALANCE WITH NATURE." Anybody with half a brain should realize, that's just not possible, we are 14 times the number, and there is no pleasant scenario how world population can ever become that sparse again. Their New World Order globalist utopia can not possibly work, and anybody who understands Bible prophecy already knows this. Man is too wicked to survive long with that much power concentrated in the hands of the very corrupt few. Power divided is power checked. "Absolute power corrupt absolutely." Man can improve his sphere of influence, but man can't build utopia on earth. People will soon figure it out, and be forced to fight against their evil globalist NWO depopulation agenda.
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  • missoni Pronata... 2012/05/16 18:38:34
    missoni
    Jimmy Carter isn't the source, he is apart of the article, which is the source. I don't think he needs to be attacked for his liberalism, just like republicans shouldn't be attacked for their conservatism.
  • beachbum 2012/05/16 16:38:40
    Yes
    beachbum
    Needed - no............BUT only if no one ever again tried to be dictator/ruler of the world. The reality is that freedoms must be fought for, and that battle never ends.
  • Heisenberg 2012/05/16 16:35:35 (edited)
    Yes
    Heisenberg
    +3
    Only if you value your liberty and survival.

    Of course 'war is needed' because those that refuse to engage in war guarantee that others will dominate them or kill them off.

    Since I like living and living free, I keep war as an option.

    *Added*
    I am astounded by the depth of stupidity of some of these answers.

    If you don't keep war as an option, then the only alternative is to be a pacifist.

    Can anyone give me a single country that is free and prosperous that is pacifistic?...come on just one.
  • kobidobidog 2012/05/16 16:21:06
    No
    kobidobidog
    +1
    Save the soul. Jesus did. Jesus did not war being faithful unto deatrh. There is a very good reason why he did not retaliate against his enemies loving doing good to his enemies. He even healed the ear of one of his enemies. The High priests that came to him to arrest God in the flesh betrayed by Judas Iscariot.
  • TerryAgee 2012/05/16 15:47:16
    No
    TerryAgee
    +3
    "Every bomb takes away food from the hungry and homes from the homeless" -- Prez Dwight Eisenhower.
  • t.eliot, topbard 2012/05/16 15:20:15
    No
    t.eliot, topbard
    +2
    War IS needed by the military, by the politicians who suckle at the military contractor's teat,by the corporations who depend on the projection of military might to further their narrow, short term interests, by those who wish to intimidate and/or subjugate people in the less "developed" world, by the Israelis to keep their foot on the throats of the Palestinians, by those who care not about environmental degradation and by those who
    see personal gain in limiting freedom and exercising control through fear.
    It is NOT, however, needed to further humankind or indeed the survival of the earth. In fact, it is antithetical to life.
  • Dave0626 2012/05/16 15:15:50
    Yes
    Dave0626
    +2
    Indeed, and 'Undecided' option is in order. So I will choose 'Yes' as war is a needed tool, by the superpowers that be. For they are the ones that say 'Yes' to wars. And they, the superpowers, or 'The Puppet Masters' are able to justify their repression of the masses by being at war. Without an external enemy, the justification disappears.
    If you've ever read the book 1984, it depicts warfare as a necessary tool and symptom of a totalitarian state. Oceania, one of the three superstates of the world, is in constant warfare with one of the other two. This is necessary, as warfare keeps citizens in constant confusion and fear – this helps to make them submissive to the control of the 'Party'. The 'Party' can then regulate supply and demand to ensure classism, and ultimately, power
    Orwell wrote that:
    Indifference to objective truth is encouraged by the sealing off of one part of the world from another, which makes it harder and harder to discover what is actually happening. There can often be doubt about the most enormous events. The calamities that are constantly being reported -- battles, massacres, famines, revolutions -- tend to inspire in the average person a feeling of unreality. One has no way of verifying the facts, one is not even fully certain that they have happened...
    Indeed, and 'Undecided' option is in order. So I will choose 'Yes' as war is a needed tool, by the superpowers that be. For they are the ones that say 'Yes' to wars. And they, the superpowers, or 'The Puppet Masters' are able to justify their repression of the masses by being at war. Without an external enemy, the justification disappears.
    If you've ever read the book 1984, it depicts warfare as a necessary tool and symptom of a totalitarian state. Oceania, one of the three superstates of the world, is in constant warfare with one of the other two. This is necessary, as warfare keeps citizens in constant confusion and fear – this helps to make them submissive to the control of the 'Party'. The 'Party' can then regulate supply and demand to ensure classism, and ultimately, power
    Orwell wrote that:
    Indifference to objective truth is encouraged by the sealing off of one part of the world from another, which makes it harder and harder to discover what is actually happening. There can often be doubt about the most enormous events. The calamities that are constantly being reported -- battles, massacres, famines, revolutions -- tend to inspire in the average person a feeling of unreality. One has no way of verifying the facts, one is not even fully certain that they have happened, and one is always presented with totally different interpretations from different sources. Probably the truth is undiscoverable but the facts will be so dishonestly set forth in that the ordinary reader can be forgiven either for swallowing lies or for failing to form an opinion.
    Thus....Ultimate Governing Power is achieved.
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  • missoni Dave0626 2012/05/16 18:29:13
    missoni
    +2
    Yes I forgot to put in an undecided as I stated in the question. Sorry again.

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