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Is This Vodka Billboard Anti-Semitic?

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There's nothing like some good ol' ethnic controversy to kick off the holiday season, right? A New York City billboard advertising Wodka brand vodka was quickly removed ("and destroyed") this week when onlookers began complaining that the ad was anti-Semitic. The sign read: "Christmas quality, Hanukkah pricing." The Anti-Defamation League called the ad "crude and offensive ... clearly insensitive and inappropriate" for correlating the Jewish holiday with money.



MMG, the marketing company that designed the ad, does not deny that the billboard was drawing on Jewish stereotypes, but MMG head Brian Gordon explained, "We thought people would perceive it as 'ha ha quirky.' But people perceived it as offensive, and because of that, we pulled it."

The New York Times notes that Gordon was "quick to point out that he is Jewish."
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  • Karl Marx 2012/01/07 11:13:06
    No
    Karl Marx
    What exactly is offensive about it?
  • Magnus ☮ RP ☮ 2012 ☮ 2011/12/14 08:58:44
    No
    Magnus ☮ RP ☮ 2012 ☮
    Truth hurts and that ad was HILARIOUS!!! But while I'm here... Hosea 4; John 8; Revelation 2:9/3:9 and many more [KJV]... Oh, and for all the rest of you fellow so-called "Goyim" (their less than savory term reserved especially for us Christians properly translated "cattle") go look up the "Kabbalah" as well as the Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion (if you can find it, but careful... most Nations impose a DEATH penalty for anyone caught with that, especially for you Russians). My gift to you and MERRY CHRIST-MAS!!!
  • NYCbrit 2011/11/30 18:34:11
    Yes
    NYCbrit
    +1
    But I really think they're referring to the super hype that is Christmas versus the lesser secularized Hanukkah.

    South Park
  • lucky 2011/11/30 17:10:55
    No
    lucky
    It wouldnt be to me if I were Jewish but I have a quirky sense of humor.
  • Tony 2011/11/30 15:17:02
    No
    Tony
    only to oversensitive twits!
  • knowerseeker 2011/11/30 15:04:22
    Yes
    knowerseeker
    Yes, but it doesn't have anything to do with "correlating the Jewish holiday with money" but instead with implying that the "quality" of Christmas is higher than that of Hanukkah. (Just because something is less expensive doesn't mean that its quality is lower, though the saying that "you get what you pay for" is indeed often correct.)
  • nikmoser knowers... 2011/12/07 03:35:58
    nikmoser
    You don't think maybe it's meant to imply Jewish people being cheap? That what I got from it. I don't think it should be necessary to take it down but I just perceived it as meaning something different from what you did.
  • nikmoser nikmoser 2011/12/07 03:36:15
    nikmoser
    That's*
  • knowers... nikmoser 2011/12/13 21:26:46
    knowerseeker
    Well, when you believe in and voice a stereotype (especially a negative one, but positive ones as well), that's bigotry, and bigotry towards another race is racism, and racism/bigotry toward Jews or Hebrews is called antisemitism. That would include "Jewish people being cheap".
  • nikmoser knowers... 2011/12/15 04:05:26
    nikmoser
    +1
    Oh I certainly agree with you, I wasn't intending to argue whether or not it was racist. I just thought that maybe you had the wrong idea of what it was implying. I believe that it's racist, as well, but I don't think it should be forced to be taken down because of the whole "freedom of speech" thing. But no, I do agree with you
  • Resp 2011/11/30 14:46:05
    No
    Resp
    No but it is pro-Christian!
  • knowers... Resp 2011/11/30 15:11:03
    knowerseeker
    Yes, it is pro-Christian *heritage* (though making pot-shots at other cultures is unbecoming of a Christian), *and* anti-Semitic.
  • Chris - The Rowdy One! #187 2011/11/30 14:19:08
    Yes
    Chris - The Rowdy One! #187
    I support the companies right to say whatever they want to say though.

    Can you imagine if they said something about blacks or Muslims? Holy crap, the president would have been involved.
  • knowers... Chris -... 2011/11/30 15:08:53
    knowerseeker
    So then, I guess you think it's perfectly fine when a business disrespects white people in its advertising (which has happened often -- especially during the 90's), or better/worse yet, white Christians?
  • Chris -... knowers... 2011/11/30 15:17:33
    Chris - The Rowdy One! #187
    What I call the "stupid white guy" routine. I hate it actually and I take out my anger in the best way possible, I do not buy those products. That being said, I would not want to have them forced to not make those ads.
  • knowers... Chris -... 2011/11/30 15:22:22
    knowerseeker
    +1
    I guess that's fair; good response. However, do you believe that your boycotting of those products does have an effect? Are there enough white people who do the same along side you to make a difference? Or do those same businesses just keep getting richer and continue producing their offensive advertisements? In light of this, do you still support their "right" to say whatever they want in their advertising?
  • Chris -... knowers... 2011/11/30 15:46:31
    Chris - The Rowdy One! #187
    Thank you.

    As for my personal boycott, I realize that it does not have that much affect but it is something. As for others, this is more telling of the society at large for being numb to these offenses rather than the small group of people that put out ads like this. If they honestly thought they would offend most people and/or that it would hurt their business, they would not do it.

    However, at the end of the day, I do support their right to be idiotic.
  • knowers... Chris -... 2011/11/30 16:35:40
    knowerseeker
    Hm, but it is not their right to be idiotic that you are defending, but rather their "right" to harass and bully other people. You say that if businesses think that their choices in advertising offend *most* people, then they will not use those advertisements, but that's exactly the point: the advertisements do not offend *most* people; they offend a *minority* of people. Bullies do not harass *most* of their peers but a *minority* of them; if they harassed everyone, everyone would gang up together to defeat the bully. (And oftentimes there is an "audience" whom enjoys watching the bully harass certain people, but who do not take part personally. By extension, this is the customer audience the advertisement is targeting.)

    But every person, regardless of whatever categories s/he might fit into, deserves the right to live life free from harassment, whether it be by rumor (which is slander/libel) passed in schoolyard notes, on the Internet, or on billboard signs... or from direct accosting by another. And though you may not be a *racial* or cultural "minority" (as liberals are so fond of), I doubt that you have never found yourself in a minority situation in your life (where you were part of a minority) and cannot understand what it is like for the victims of stereotyping and rumo...
    Hm, but it is not their right to be idiotic that you are defending, but rather their "right" to harass and bully other people. You say that if businesses think that their choices in advertising offend *most* people, then they will not use those advertisements, but that's exactly the point: the advertisements do not offend *most* people; they offend a *minority* of people. Bullies do not harass *most* of their peers but a *minority* of them; if they harassed everyone, everyone would gang up together to defeat the bully. (And oftentimes there is an "audience" whom enjoys watching the bully harass certain people, but who do not take part personally. By extension, this is the customer audience the advertisement is targeting.)

    But every person, regardless of whatever categories s/he might fit into, deserves the right to live life free from harassment, whether it be by rumor (which is slander/libel) passed in schoolyard notes, on the Internet, or on billboard signs... or from direct accosting by another. And though you may not be a *racial* or cultural "minority" (as liberals are so fond of), I doubt that you have never found yourself in a minority situation in your life (where you were part of a minority) and cannot understand what it is like for the victims of stereotyping and rumor. (I happen to be white as well but part of a cultural minority: I am a Cajun. Maybe that helps me understand both the plight of the white American as well as the racial/cultural "minority"...? That's what I like to think anyway.)
    (more)
  • Chris -... knowers... 2011/11/30 17:09:16
    Chris - The Rowdy One! #187
    +1
    As I said before, this is more damning of the society as a whole rather than the people that are just playing off of what is allowed.

    I agree with you on principle, things like this are vile and insensitive. I would contend that 50 years ago the person(s) at the advertising agency would not even consider this ad as an option but in today's world, they do not fear a backlash.
  • knowers... Chris -... 2011/12/13 21:31:04
    knowerseeker
    +1
    Oh ok, so we agree (or mostly agree), and you were simply expanding upon the causes or what's to blame for the issue. Sorry I misunderstood.
  • Chris -... knowers... 2011/12/13 21:38:06
    Chris - The Rowdy One! #187
    We are cool!
  • phil white Chris -... 2011/11/30 16:28:17 (edited)
    phil white
    Buy Progressive insurance. They run the "cool white guy" adds feathuring "The Messenger" :-)
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?...
  • Chris -... phil white 2011/11/30 17:09:45
    Chris - The Rowdy One! #187
    I have seen the stupid white guy on there too.
  • phil white Chris -... 2011/11/30 21:48:24 (edited)
    phil white
    +1
    Everybody runs stupid white guys, but only a few I know of are doing cool white guys.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?...
  • Chris -... phil white 2011/11/30 22:38:39
    Chris - The Rowdy One! #187
    Wow.....the white guy did the schooling for a change. That is a rarity these days.
  • phil white Chris -... 2011/12/01 21:44:25
    phil white
    +1
    Change you can believe in. :-)
  • NoobGotPowned 2011/11/30 07:34:01
    Yes
    NoobGotPowned
    +1
    But it doesn't change the fact that it's Hilarious.


    trolololo gif
  • knowers... NoobGot... 2011/11/30 15:12:12
    knowerseeker
    +1
    Well sure it's all hilarious... until a Jew says something about white Christians.
  • NoobGot... knowers... 2011/11/30 19:51:28
  • wqerwqerwe 2011/11/30 05:07:32
    No
    wqerwqerwe
    The funnies part of it is when it says "For correlating the Jewish holiday with money." its like they are confirming that stereotype.. lol
  • jay 2011/11/30 04:26:18
    No
    jay
    Hell most of my friends are jewish and if I were not a Christian already I would probably be jewish. I tell people all the time christians and jews have more in common than most people realize and really should stick together in this crazy world where the usa and israel are probably the two most threatened nations.
  • dorpalicious 2011/11/30 01:59:58
    No
    dorpalicious
    Well, if the stereotype fits...
  • Keen Tojones 2011/11/30 01:28:14
    No
    Keen Tojones
    I don't see it that way and I am of the Jewish gene pool.
  • nikmoser 2011/11/30 01:23:12
    Yes
    nikmoser
    +1
    I believe it's somewhat prejudiced, but I also believe in free speech. So what if it is? Because someone might be a little offended you have to change your opinion or not express it? What a bunch of p*ssies, free speech means free speech, not free speech as long as it doesn't hurt someone's feelings
  • knowers... nikmoser 2011/11/30 15:13:45
    knowerseeker
    Yeah, just like when other cultures/races dis on white Christians. It's free speech!
  • nikmoser knowers... 2011/11/30 21:12:26
    nikmoser
    That, it is.
  • knowers... nikmoser 2011/12/13 21:33:41
    knowerseeker
    I'm sure you thought differently every time somebody said "fighting words" to your face.
  • merlinskiss 2011/11/30 00:06:44
    No
    merlinskiss
    But ridiculous is another matter...
  • Spooner 2011/11/29 23:56:25
    Yes
    Spooner
    I am always amazed that after thousands of years, the sons of Abraham are still pitted against eachother, but I wonder why the billboard left out Ramadan?
  • thegaln... Spooner 2011/11/30 04:11:34
    thegalnextdoor
    no alcohol for the sons of Esau and Ishmael....
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