Is this proof of "those who don't know history are destined to repeat it"...Edmund Burke

by Gracie - Proud Conservative Posted 2012/07/10 01:07:13

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	Yes, doing the same thing and expecting different results is what?	29 votes	94%
	No, maybe it will work this time.	2 votes	6%

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Red Branch 2012/08/18 03:57:21

Yes, doing the same thing and expecting different results is what?

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I could have used another option.

I believe the leaders of Western Civilization studied history and learned the lessons very well. Then they replicated them as close as they possibly could.

Never before in history has a great civilization fallen so quickly. Lets' look at what brought done Republican Rome -
(1) the inability of the Roman Senate to make decisions..

Let's look at what did in the Roman Empire -
(2) high taxes to support a massive bureaucracy.
(3) massive debt.
(4) inability to control her borders.

Anything look familiar to any of you?

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Noor 2012/08/13 07:22:29

Yes, doing the same thing and expecting different results is what?

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Obama is a full fledged Communist. He is the one chosen to lead America further into Communism and has been doing so since taking office. Of course so was Bush... this particular stab at a take over was begun under Reagan with Greenspan. So we have been nudged to this point over the decades. Just hope in North America it is not so bloody as it was in Russia when 70 million white Christians were atrociously slaughtered.

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Muriel 2012/07/11 16:17:15

Yes, doing the same thing and expecting different results is what?

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We never seem to learn. Mainly because history is properly taught.

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teachaman 2012/07/10 14:24:55

Yes, doing the same thing and expecting different results is what?

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the result of "dumbing down" the populace? - ignorant voters ... what do ignorant voters produce? - dictators! ... here's what Thomas Jefferson had to say (in part)

"If a nation expects to be ignorant and free in a state of civilization, it expects what never was and never will be." --Thomas Jefferson to Charles Yancey, 1816

"Whenever the people are well-informed, they can be trusted with their own government;... whenever things get so far wrong as to attract their notice, they may be relied on to set them to rights." --Thomas Jefferson to Richard Price, 1789

An enlightened citizenry is indispensable for the proper functioning of a republic. Self-government is not possible unless the citizens are educated sufficiently to enable them to exercise oversight. It is therefore imperative that the nation see to it that a suitable education be provided for all its citizens. It should be noted, that when Jefferson speaks of "science," he is often referring to knowledge or learning in general.
"I know no safe depositary of the ultimate powers of the society but the people themselves; and if we think them not enlightened enough to exercise their control with a wholesome discretion, the remedy is not to take it from them, but to inform their discretion by education. This is the true co...

the result of "dumbing down" the populace? - ignorant voters ... what do ignorant voters produce? - dictators! ... here's what Thomas Jefferson had to say (in part)

"If a nation expects to be ignorant and free in a state of civilization, it expects what never was and never will be." --Thomas Jefferson to Charles Yancey, 1816

"Whenever the people are well-informed, they can be trusted with their own government;... whenever things get so far wrong as to attract their notice, they may be relied on to set them to rights." --Thomas Jefferson to Richard Price, 1789

An enlightened citizenry is indispensable for the proper functioning of a republic. Self-government is not possible unless the citizens are educated sufficiently to enable them to exercise oversight. It is therefore imperative that the nation see to it that a suitable education be provided for all its citizens. It should be noted, that when Jefferson speaks of "science," he is often referring to knowledge or learning in general.
"I know no safe depositary of the ultimate powers of the society but the people themselves; and if we think them not enlightened enough to exercise their control with a wholesome discretion, the remedy is not to take it from them, but to inform their discretion by education. This is the true corrective of abuses of constitutional power." --Thomas Jefferson to William C. Jarvis, 1820.

above quotes, among many others, are collected on http://www.politheo.com/thoma...
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maggiemay 2012/07/10 14:06:37

Yes, doing the same thing and expecting different results is what?

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Half these kid's today have no clue why we even celebrate Independent's day. Let alone anything about the National Debt. If it's not on TV as a reality show they have no interest.

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ray 2012/07/10 10:37:50

Yes, doing the same thing and expecting different results is what?

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In the wagon they had "elites " back then also .

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BUCCANEER~POTL~PWCM~JLA 2012/07/10 08:42:23

Yes, doing the same thing and expecting different results is what?

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Nuff said

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No nonsense NanC...don't BS... 2012/07/10 02:56:21

Yes, doing the same thing and expecting different results is what?

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WhereIsAmerica? ~PWCM~JLA 2012/07/10 02:54:07

Yes, doing the same thing and expecting different results is what?

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Insane.

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jackolantyrn356 2012/07/10 02:51:18

Yes, doing the same thing and expecting different results is what?

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Repeat.

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keeper 2012/07/10 02:07:56

Yes, doing the same thing and expecting different results is what?

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That applies today~

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historian to keeper 2012/08/11 00:52:43

And yesterday, it has been an incremental process across both parties, building to the final dictator. And many of the people on here nodding their heads and saying YEP!, are going to perpetuate it and continue the collapse with this next election. The electorate is close to, if not already, hopelessly lost and hypnotized by corporate propaganda.

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Prairie Wind 2012/07/10 01:56:28 (edited)

Yes, doing the same thing and expecting different results is what?

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What a training ground in Chicago for Obama's indoctrination and I thought it was the cab drivers there were just saying "nyet" to their dispatchers, then getting lost when following printed map instructions. I printed it in English!

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Red_Horse 2012/07/10 01:47:57
TuringsChild 2012/07/10 01:35:28

Yes, doing the same thing and expecting different results is what?

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It's over, folks. After 100 years of hard work, freedom's enemies have rigged it so that we cannot escape. And there is no country left for freedom lovers to run TO. Might as well get used to those golden chains.

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Red_Horse to Turings... 2012/07/10 01:37:56
Turings... to Red_Horse 2012/07/10 01:48:11

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Good. We NEED to get angry. If we don't WE WILL BECOME SLAVES SOONER THAN YOU THINK.

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Red_Horse to Turings... 2012/07/10 01:50:05
Turings... to Red_Horse 2012/07/10 01:54:01

Who's waiting?
http://www.sodahead.com/unite...

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Gracie ... to Turings... 2012/07/10 02:21:43

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I don't fold that easily!

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ray to Turings... 2012/07/10 10:51:07

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IT'S OVER ? Not for the Americans who still breathe the spirit of the forefathers

"I have not yet begun to fight": John Paul Jones
On September 23, 1779, Jones fought one of the bloodiest engagements in naval history. Jones struggled with the 44-gun Royal Navy frigate Serapis, and although his own vessel was burning and sinking, Jones would not accept the British demand for surrender, replying, “I have not yet begun to fight.” More than three hours later, Serapis surrendered and Jones took command.
http://www.history.navy.mil/t...

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Turings... to ray 2012/07/10 16:08:44

Sadly, we have no such leaders today. Anyone with the temerity to try would fall victim to the Patriot Act and disappear into a dark hole somewhere. While I would LOVE to see all Americans take the Mayan Calendar as a countdown to freedom, and to spontaneously overthrow the government in one fell swoop, I don't expect it to happen. Will you die with me?

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ray to Turings... 2012/07/10 16:29:01

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Don't look for hero's . The minute men of yore merely awaited the moment to be called to action. Who were the leaders at Lexington and Concord ?
Individuals acting as individuals coming together with a common idea .
Such is the Tea Party , Grass roots and leaderless.
November 2012 is the next battle , Recruit and register , every vote is needed. .

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aherbert 2012/07/10 01:22:49

No, maybe it will work this time.

No I have a message from your President ...

I also have a message from the Republican front runner ...

It is okay that the GOP guy don't pay his fair share of taxes ... he wears magic underwear right?

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Gracie ... to aherbert 2012/07/10 01:25:55

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Who's the hater?

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Red_Horse to Gracie ... 2012/07/10 01:41:52 (edited)
aherbert to Gracie ... 2012/07/10 01:43:06

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Red_Horse to aherbert 2012/07/10 01:38:53 (edited)
aherbert to Red_Horse 2012/07/10 01:49:54

You are speaking of your sister mother inbreed ... I know you people are trying to expand your gene pool as the rickets are very bothersome ... so you are matting at the Howard Johnson these days could be a good thing ... you know trying to expand the gene pool and all ... so how is the mountain mouth working for you? Did your grandfather - uncle get rid of that third testicle? You need to turn off the AM radio and come down the mountain every once and awhile.. Your third eye is not that noticeable … besides you still have ten good teeth …

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Red_Horse to aherbert 2012/07/10 01:56:47
aherbert to aherbert 2012/07/10 05:20:23

Red Horse is a coward ... gut me no not that wild horse she just blocked me ... she know the meaning of Puck off hahahahha

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Rodney 2012/07/10 01:21:26

Yes, doing the same thing and expecting different results is what?

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I just wish the Right could get their voices heard.

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rocat 2012/07/10 01:20:27

Yes, doing the same thing and expecting different results is what?

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yep-proof-

and the majority of voters...

will line up in nov...
to vote for more spending ...
and growth of govt power-

pretty clear...that-

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tommyg ... to rocat 2012/07/10 02:47:54

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Damn ro.

How about a positive post once in a while.....lol

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rocat to tommyg ... 2012/07/10 02:51:58

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hardly the place for that-

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tommyg ... to rocat 2012/07/10 03:01:28

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There are fewer and fewer places left. Almost like you have to make the space.

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rocat to tommyg ... 2012/07/10 03:06:20

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i save it for my "personal" space-

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tommyg ... to rocat 2012/07/10 03:30:53

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I try not to save it. I try to give it away as fast as I get it.

I didn't use to be that way....I think it has something to do with having daughters.

Maybe?

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rocat to tommyg ... 2012/07/10 03:40:13

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i'll take your word for that-

i have sons-

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tommyg ... to rocat 2012/07/10 03:41:11

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I know.

That was my point...

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