Is this comment by a devoted, die-hard Obama supporter a valid, truthful, justifiable answer to the question the comment was addressing?..Or, is it a failed attempt to rationalize the "un" and "under" employment for Obama's sake?
J.W. Howler
2013/01/21 14:50:51
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POLL QUESTION -
8,332,000 Americans Dropped Out Of The Workforce During Obama’s First Term… Should the people under 65 who drop out of workforce be counted in the unemployment numbers?
http://www.sodahead.com/united-states/8332000-americans-dropp...
ANSWER GIVEN -
"Should a mother or father who stays at home with her children be counted as part of the workforce? Most if not all mothers and fathers of children under the age of 18 are also under the age of 65. IMO, raising our children is America's most important job and women or men who chose to stay at home have made a wise choice and one that is in America's best interest. Do you really think it is in America's best interest to count them as unemployed when they are engaged in our most important endeavor?"
8,332,000 Americans Dropped Out Of The Workforce During Obama’s First Term… Should the people under 65 who drop out of workforce be counted in the unemployment numbers?
http://www.sodahead.com/united-states/8332000-americans-dropp...
ANSWER GIVEN -
"Should a mother or father who stays at home with her children be counted as part of the workforce? Most if not all mothers and fathers of children under the age of 18 are also under the age of 65. IMO, raising our children is America's most important job and women or men who chose to stay at home have made a wise choice and one that is in America's best interest. Do you really think it is in America's best interest to count them as unemployed when they are engaged in our most important endeavor?"
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betz 2013/01/21 14:57:43Even though there may be SOME truth in it, it sounds more like a spin to just...
+7If the person has looked and looked and looked and then gave up yes they should be counted. I know a few who just gave up after beating the pavement for a few years. They WANT to continue working but there is nothing out there.
Yes, motherhood and fatherhood are extremely important topics and must be dealt with intelligently and compassionately. However, when speaking of the overall economy of the United States, those folks are to be not counted as members of the workforce for purposes of $$$ calculations and budgeting, etc. Economy means money. Moms and dads aren't on the payroll, unfortunately, and should not be used to skew the figures.
Stop trying to twist the facts, any idiot can look at the population to employment ratio and see how bad it REALLY is.
Dont want the "job" of raising children then dont have them.
The "point" is raising children is completely different then having employment at a business or running a business.
What do you say to a Mother you think did a good job of raising her children? You did a good ________?
Seriously, I think you forgot to take your meds today.
The attitude is your imagination.
That was the number of people whose jobs were lost in the 2008-2009 financial crisis. More than 25% of those were in skilled construction jobs, their jobs destroyed by the banks' calling of commercial development and real estate loans that had underlaid the projects they were working on. Many of the rest of those jobs lost were related to those construction industry losses in manufacturing, service industries, equipment and consumer goods that came to a screeching halt with the foreclosures and bankruptcies caused by the banking industry. (Data from the Federal Reserve of St. Louis study of job losses caused by the 2008 financial crisis)
When I was growing up in the 60s and 70s, my mom was in the majority: she did not work outside of the home. She had a job when I was a baby and worked up until shortly before the birth of my younger brother. She never had a job outside the home after that. But that was also at a time when it was actually feasible to raise a family with just one income. Many people don't realize that the increase in the cost of living in the past 50 years is NOT a straight line, nor is it a smooth curve. There was a huge spike in the cost of living that occurred in the middle 70s through the early 80s. It's no coincidence that during this time the percent of moms who stayed at home with the kids went from over 70% all the way down to 15%, and it has since dropped to around 10%.
Up until our oldest kid was around 8 years old, my wife had a job, too. She decided, though, as my own job stabilized, to drop out of the workforce for a while. That was the intention, anyway. Her plans of returning to the workforce after our youngest got into high school were thwarted by health issues and other circumstances. But we never received any form o...
When I was growing up in the 60s and 70s, my mom was in the majority: she did not work outside of the home. She had a job when I was a baby and worked up until shortly before the birth of my younger brother. She never had a job outside the home after that. But that was also at a time when it was actually feasible to raise a family with just one income. Many people don't realize that the increase in the cost of living in the past 50 years is NOT a straight line, nor is it a smooth curve. There was a huge spike in the cost of living that occurred in the middle 70s through the early 80s. It's no coincidence that during this time the percent of moms who stayed at home with the kids went from over 70% all the way down to 15%, and it has since dropped to around 10%.
Up until our oldest kid was around 8 years old, my wife had a job, too. She decided, though, as my own job stabilized, to drop out of the workforce for a while. That was the intention, anyway. Her plans of returning to the workforce after our youngest got into high school were thwarted by health issues and other circumstances. But we never received any form of assistance, and simply went on with just my job's income. It hasn't always been easy, but we made it. So do you count my wife as unemployed? No... she left the workforce voluntarily and not because she couldn't find a new job. She never received any form assistance, either, which is a big factor. How do you count everyone else, then? Your guess is as good as mine, but they definitely do need to somehow count those who 1) were employed in the last 2-3 years, 2) received some form of unemployment compensation after losing that job, and 3) dropped out of the workforce specifically because they couldn't find gainful employment while receiving that compensation.
I also know far too many who are underemployed or work PT when they want FT.