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Is the way abortion is justified similar to how nazi's justified killing the jews?

Adam 2012/05/13 18:31:03
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  • Brosia 2012/06/11 01:19:32
    No!
    Brosia
    +1
    The Nazi's justified killing an entire religion off because...I don't think they ever gave a good enough reason. Abortion is a choice that one can make regarding her own reproductive system. They are not even close to the same thing.
  • wysiwis 2012/05/21 23:45:36
    Yes!
    wysiwis
    A little TOO similar!
  • Red Branch 2012/05/16 16:16:31
    Yes!
    Red Branch
    +2
    Had there been Blacks in Germany, they would have been rounded up as well.

    Anyone know the story of Jesse Owens at the Olympics?
  • Pixie·Ÿ... Red Branch 2012/06/11 01:30:58
  • Red Branch Pixie·Ÿ... 2012/06/11 03:10:08
    Red Branch
    I really doubt that there were many, if any, Blacks in Germany when Hitler came to power.
    But yes, they would have been rounded up like the other groups.

    But it was only the effeminate (Fems) homosexuals that were sent to the death camps. Himmler, more than likely a homosexual, thought most homosexual men (Butches) were perfect specimens of the Aryan male. If the Butches were produce children, they did not care what they did in their spare time. Germany lost 2 million men in WWI and it was estimated that Germany had about 2 million homos. That was 4 million men unable to procreate, so because they were dead and others lacked loyalty to the state and off to the camps went the latter.

    So, that is another myth coming out of liberal historians and their works.

    Hitler was more than likely a homo. Then there was Reinhard Heydrich, Gestapo leader, one of the most feared men in Nazi Germany. He was called "the Blond Beast".

    In conclusion, if the homos procreated, all was good. A lot of hetero men were accused of homosexual conduct and sent to the death camps. Some of the homos sent to the death camps had made comments about Hitler that would have gotten anyone sent away.

    Until a few months ago I believe the homo lie pushed by the Libs. Then I found this book.

    "The Pink Swastika: Homosexuality in the Nazi Party". - Scott Lively & Kevin Abrams.
  • Pixie·Ÿ... Red Branch 2012/06/11 03:12:11
  • Red Branch Pixie·Ÿ... 2012/06/11 03:25:56
    Red Branch
    It was closer to 7 million others killed by Hitler's thugs.
  • The Pot... Red Branch 2012/06/11 03:19:34
    The Potato Princess
    +2
    There were 24,000 black people in Germany in the twenties. How many there were by the time of the Holocaust, I don't know, but I'm guessing that the number grew.

    He also sterilized and used the black/mixed people in the Rhineland for expiriments.
  • Red Branch The Pot... 2012/06/11 03:23:26
    Red Branch
    +1
    Thanks, I had never heard of Blacks being mentioned as living in Germany at that time.
  • Red Branch Pixie·Ÿ... 2012/06/11 03:21:07 (edited)
    Red Branch
    Edit:
    I did not see my first post above, and thought I had lost it so I wrote this one.

    I am not sure if Jesse Owens makes it into the history books anymore, but Jesse Owens was an American.
    Yes, Blacks would have been sent to the camps if Germany would have any Blacks.

    Homosexuals being sent to the camps was another myth foisted on the public is mostly a liberal creation. Homos were separated into two groups, the Fems and the Butches and it was the Fems that were sent to the camps. If the Butches would procreate, they could do what they wanted to do at other times.

    Many of the so-called homos sent to the camps were heteros that the Nazis wanted to get rid of permanently. Butch homos were sent to the camps if they criticized Hitler, but then anyone who criticized Hitler was sent to the same camps.

    Hitler was more than likely a homo, as was Himmler, Reinhold Heydrich, head of the Gestapo was a homo. It was also called the 'Gay Reich'.

    I just learned about this a short while ago when I came upon this book:
    "The Pink Swastika: Homosexuality In The Nazi Party". - Scott Lively & Kevin Abrams.
  • jeane 2012/05/16 01:22:01
    Yes!
    jeane
    +5
    Both are dehumanized. It make it easier that way. You don't have to worry about morals or decency or any of "that stuff".
  • doofiegirl BTO-t- BCRA-F ~... 2012/05/15 23:09:49
  • Uranos7 2012/05/15 22:36:19
    Yes!
    Uranos7
    +5
    They do not want to stop at birth either:
    Alberto Giubilini with Monash University in Melbourne and Francesca Minerva at the Centre for Applied Philosophy and Public Ethics at the University of Melbourne write that in “circumstances occur[ing] after birth such that they would have justified abortion, what we call after-birth abortion should be permissible.”
    So yes abortion is just the next step to infantacide, which is the next step to Genocide.
    http://www.lifenews.com/2012/...
  • Stryder 2012/05/15 20:25:39
    No!
    Stryder
    +1
    But both are evil.
  • SK-pro impeachment 2012/05/15 19:50:59
    Yes!
    SK-pro impeachment
    +6
    PP was started to eliminate the black race. How twisted is it that blacks think PP and abortion is okay??????????????????
  • doofieg... SK-pro ... 2012/05/15 23:12:35
  • jeane SK-pro ... 2012/05/16 01:19:58
    jeane
    +5
    Many deeply religious and traditional black people do not think that abortion is okay.
  • SK-pro ... jeane 2012/05/16 01:23:00
    SK-pro impeachment
    +5
    I understand that.
  • BUCCANEER~POTL~PWCM~JLA 2012/05/15 18:57:18
    Yes!
    BUCCANEER~POTL~PWCM~JLA
    +8
    This is a foetus,a living breating baby

    chinas aborted babies

    chinas aborted babies

    Libs,don't want a child? keep your limp dicks limp!
  • doofieg... BUCCANE... 2012/05/15 23:03:01 (edited)
  • Pixie·Ÿ... BUCCANE... 2012/06/11 01:32:24
  • BUCCANE... Pixie·Ÿ... 2012/06/11 08:25:52
    BUCCANEER~POTL~PWCM~JLA
    Their is no air? oxygen in the blood supply mean anything
  • Pixie·Ÿ... BUCCANE... 2012/06/11 14:10:23
  • gldynmd BTO-t-BCRA-F 2012/05/15 18:43:55
    Yes!
    gldynmd BTO-t-BCRA-F
    +8
    Abortion is not a form of birth control. It is murder!
  • Walt 2012/05/15 18:40:43
    Yes!
    Walt
    +9
    Planned Parenthood was founded with the express purpose of racial extermination. Can there be any doubt about the similarities?

    planned parenthood founded express purpose racial extermination doubt similarities
  • Disko Pickle 2012/05/15 03:05:19
    No!
    Disko Pickle
    +3
    No. Abortion is justified the way that God justified it in the Bible.
  • sodabox Disko P... 2012/05/15 03:13:59
    sodabox
    +1
    Yeap, Numbers 5:11-31
  • SK-pro ... sodabox 2012/05/15 19:52:02 (edited)
    SK-pro impeachment
    +5
    You're both clueless morons.
  • sodabox SK-pro ... 2012/05/15 20:23:20
    sodabox
    How so?
  • SK-pro ... sodabox 2012/05/15 20:31:01 (edited)
    SK-pro impeachment
    +6
    Not what it says at all. Funny how ppl who don't believe in the Bible try to interpret the Bible. they fail every time. Why? The mysteries of God are hidden from unbelievers.
    But then again if you can read and comprehend plain English it's really not that hard, if you don't read into what you want it to say. Same problem liberals and unbelievers have with reading the 1st Amendment.
  • sodabox SK-pro ... 2012/05/15 20:41:52 (edited)
    sodabox
    +1
    Numbers 5:11-31 describes an abortion by the church:
    …If a man's wife is unfaithful to him by sleeping with another man… take his wife to the priest… priest shall put the woman under oath and say to her, "If no other man has slept with you…may this bitter water that brings a curse not harm you. But if you have … may the LORD cause your people to curse and denounce you when he causes your thigh to waste away and your abdomen to swell.” She will then no longer be able to have children and if she is pregnant she would miscarry.

    Have I missed something here?
  • SK-pro ... sodabox 2012/05/15 21:11:45
    SK-pro impeachment
    +5
    LOL the Church didn't exist in the Old Testament. I rest my case.
  • jeane SK-pro ... 2012/05/16 01:29:49
    jeane
    +4
    They aren't concerned with the Old Testament Law or Jewish History - just trying to justify their behavior with the WORD that they don't even believe in. Pretty sorry!
  • sodabox SK-pro ... 2012/05/16 01:42:40
    sodabox
    +1
    Christians must follow the old testament:
    “For truly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, not an iota, not a dot, will pass the law until all is accomplished. Whoever then relaxes one of the least of these commandments and teaches men so, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but he who does them and teaches them shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.” (Matthew 5:18-19 RSV) Clearly the Old Testament is to be abided by until the end of human existence itself. None other then Jesus said so.

    All of the vicious Old Testament laws will be binding forever. "It is easier for Heaven and Earth to pass away than for the smallest part of the letter of the law to become invalid." (Luke 16:17 NAB)

    Romans 3:31
    Well then, if we emphasize faith, does this mean that we can forget about the law? Of course not! In fact, only when we have faith do we truly fulfill the law.
  • jeane sodabox 2012/05/16 01:28:39 (edited)
    jeane
    +4
    Yes as usual you have missed the boat. First of all the 613 mitzvot were for the Hebrew people. It was a covenant between them and Yahweh. Secondly you don't even believe in the Hebrew religion. Thirdly - Christians are not now nor have ever been under the law. I do find it ironic you are trying to justify your beliefs with an ancient covenant - LOL. Since you are so enamored with Jewish History you should know that God's laws and relationship with the Hebrew people were unique - STILL ARE!

    You people must be getting really desperate!
  • sodabox jeane 2012/05/16 01:44:20
    sodabox
    Christians must follow the old testament:
    “For truly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, not an iota, not a dot, will pass the law until all is accomplished. Whoever then relaxes one of the least of these commandments and teaches men so, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but he who does them and teaches them shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.” (Matthew 5:18-19 RSV) Clearly the Old Testament is to be abided by until the end of human existence itself. None other then Jesus said so.

    All of the vicious Old Testament laws will be binding forever. "It is easier for Heaven and Earth to pass away than for the smallest part of the letter of the law to become invalid." (Luke 16:17 NAB)

    Romans 3:31
    Well then, if we emphasize faith, does this mean that we can forget about the law? Of course not! In fact, only when we have faith do we truly fulfill the law.
  • jeane sodabox 2012/05/16 01:57:50
    jeane
    +3
    You are really showing your ignorance. Basic Christianity.

    << Matthew 5:17 >>

    New International Version (©1984)
    "Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to FULFILL them.


    << Romans 10:4 >>

    New International Version (©1984)
    Christ is the end of the law so that there may be righteousness for everyone who believes.

    MISSION ACCOMPLISHED
  • sodabox jeane 2012/05/16 02:25:14
    sodabox
    "Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to FULFILL them."

    "Christ is the end of the law so that there may be righteousness for everyone who believes."

    Yes, he is to fulfill them and be the end of the law IN THE SECOND COMING. If he has already fulfilled them then why have a second coming. Also, he hasn't finished fulfilling prophecy:

    Messianic prophesies Jesus didn't fulfill:

    A. Build the Third Temple (Ezekiel 37:26-28)
    B. Gather all Jews back to the Land of Israel (Isaiah 43:5-6)
    C. Usher in an era of world peace (Isaiah 2:4)
    D. Spread universal knowledge of the God of Israel, which will unite humanity as one. (Zechariah 14:9)
    E. He must be descended on his father's side from King David (see Genesis 49:10 and Isaiah 11:1) but he had no father because of the virgin birth
    F. He will lead to full Torah observance, mitzvot remain binding forever, and coming to change the Torah is immediately identified as a false prophet. (Deut. 13:1-4)

    This is just part of why jews don't follow Jesus. Another big part is that their god isn't supposed to split himself into 2 or 3 people.
  • jeane sodabox 2012/05/16 02:32:19
    jeane
    +3
    Many prophecies are being fulfilled in your sight today - stay tuned..........

    We await his second coming.
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