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Is the War on Women Real or Manufactured?

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Politics got personal on Wednesday when Democratic strategist Hilary Rosen accused Mitt Romney's wife, Ann Romney, of having "never worked a day in her life." It moved Mrs. Romney to send her first tweet ever ("I made a choice to stay home and raise five boys. Believe me, it was hard work"), setting off a debate over the decision to work or stay home. But The Christian Science Monitor is calling it a "fake" debate.

Ann told Fox News, "[Rosen] should have come to my house when those five boys were causing so much trouble, it wasn’t so easy. My career choice was to be a mother. And I think all of us need to know that we need to respect the choices that women make. Other women make other choices to have a career and raise a family, which I think Hilary Rosen has actually done herself. I respect that, that's wonderful... We have to respect women in all those choices that they make."

But Rosen is sticking to her guns, and responded to the criticism in a CNN editorial: "I have no judgments about women who work outside the home versus women who work in the home raising a family. I admire women who can stay home and raise their kids full time. I even envy them sometimes. It is a wonderful luxury to have the choice. But let's stipulate that it is not a choice that most women have in America today." We're not sure if Hilary Rosen or Ann Romney wins this debate, but that's not really the point. Do you think these kinds of feuds are real -- or just manufactured to get a vote in politics?

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  • paulosmaxwell 2012/04/13 00:10:54
    Manufactured
    paulosmaxwell
    +3
    It is a useful tool in the arsenal of the marxists in our midst constantly building groups of people they care nothing about so they can ultimately use them to reach their ends....useful idiots, clueless they are mere pawns in an evil game. If more moms stayed home and raised decent children with actual values instead of letting the pathetic culture we live in raise their children we'd all be a lot better off...
  • BabyBear 2012/04/13 00:03:52
    Real
    BabyBear
    +7
    When one of the biggest debates in politics right now is regarding women's access to birth control. Then yes it's real. As far as the choice to be a stay at home mom, for some of us it isn't a choice due to the death of a husband, divorce, rape, financial situations etc.... simply because some women are lucky enough to be in a situation where it is a choice, doesn't make the rest of us bad parents. "Walk a mile in _______'s shoes", is still relevant.
  • gvc BabyBear 2012/04/13 00:42:02
    gvc
    +2
    Every woman has access to birth control, where is the debate?

    I believe it was a talking head from the Democratic party that threw a woman under the bus because she stayed home to raise her children, not the other way around....let's stay focused.
  • BabyBear gvc 2012/04/13 03:38:27
    BabyBear
    Deturo county is trying to pass a law banning all contraceptives - (very conservative Christian community ). Also, I guess it came out wrong - I was attempting to defend women of all walks of life. Why do we women have to debate and justify if we're stay-at-home moms or working-moms, or moms at all. For some reason, that argument doesn't come up for men. I think it's bad form on both sides to drag women as a whole into this simply on her if and how she raises her children (so long as its not abusive or anything). Shame on both sides.
  • gvc BabyBear 2012/04/13 06:37:19
    gvc
    A woman who chooses to stay home with her children should not have to justify that decision. She made a choice, we should respect that.
    I get what you're saying!
  • @TheMis... BabyBear 2012/04/13 01:09:17
    @TheMissesHelp <-Follow/Tweet me
    +1
    What about title 10 or Planned Parenthood?
  • BabyBear @TheMis... 2012/04/13 03:31:55
    BabyBear
    1. There is no more planned parenthood. 2. Did you mean title 9?
  • gvc BabyBear 2012/04/13 06:39:40
    gvc
    What do you mean there is no more planned parenthood?
  • BabyBear gvc 2012/04/13 12:54:17
    BabyBear
    Planned Parenthood no longer exists. The united way dropped it from its list of charities, 6 month later it went bankrupt.
  • gvc BabyBear 2012/04/13 14:41:03
    gvc
    Someone needs to tell the offices in my city.
  • Zaephyrr 2012/04/13 00:00:15
    Manufactured
    Zaephyrr
    +3
    "There are still gender inequalities." does not equal "OMG U GUYZZZ DER IZZ A WAR ON 50% OF DA POPULASHUN!!!!!!!!!!!!"
    I think there is some confusion here on the definition of "work". If you take it simply to mean "labor", then Mrs.Romney is a worker and a very hard one at that, as is any stay at home parent.
    If, like I think her critics do, you take the term to mean "labor specifically for the purpose of making a living", then Ms. Rosen is correct in saying she hasn't ever had to do that.
    The way the question is phrased, however, means that any commenter can use it as a platform to discuss any women's issue. You could say "There's a WAR against women who work/ want to be stay-at-home-moms/ are transgendered/ want to get abortions/want to use birth control/ want to work in the sex industry/ some segue into Ron Paul (????)/ anything else that could possibly qualify as a 'women's issue'."
    Again, not saying there aren't still blatant and inexcusable inequalities between the sexes, but I don't think lumping them all under one malformed umbrella of sensationalism will do anything but start flame wars.
  • kudabux Zaephyrr 2012/04/13 00:04:19
    kudabux
    +3
    The Republicans have voted more than 165 times against protections for our health and environment, including voting to stop safeguards that protect pregnant women and children from toxic air pollution.
    The House Republicans' first major act was to vote to repeal Health Care Reform, the law that prevents insurance companies from charging higher premiums for women or denying them health care because they have been victims of domestic violence.
    Since the recovery officially began in July 2009, men have gained 1.3 million jobs while women have actually lost more than 150,000 jobs.
    Republicans in Congress have repeatedly blocked jobs bills that would hire additional teachers and nurses – professions with a high percentage of women. In fact, 78 percent of K-12 teachers are women
    This year, Republicans in Congress have introduced more than 40 bills and state legislators have introduced more than 600 measures that would restrict a woman’s access to a full range of reproductive health care, including attempts to defund Planned Parenthood and other family planning services.
    The Republican plan to end Medicare as we know it would double annual out of pocket costs for beneficiaries, which would disproportionately hurt women, who make up two-thirds of poor seniors in America
  • Suzy kudabux 2012/04/13 01:49:05
    Suzy
    +1
    Nonsense. They have voted down political ploys that would destroy business and do little or nothing for "the environment".

    "Republicans in Congress have repeatedly blocked jobs bills that would hire additional teachers and nurses – professions with a high percentage of women. In fact, 78 percent of K-12 teachers are women"

    Whaaa? Who's hiring? Why would Congress being hiring teachers and nurses? Local school districts hire their teachers and nurses, so I'm genuinely baffled by what you mean.

    And, (tired, exasperated sigh), what "Republican plan to end Medicare as we know it"? Can you point to a specific bill? A specific statement by a Republic outlining such a plan?
  • Tony 2012/04/12 23:55:16
    Manufactured
    Tony
    +4
    Everything on the news today was about Hilary Rosen and Ann Romney, which is what they want. Us distracted from real issues while they plot to screw us all over.
  • BabyBear Tony 2012/04/13 03:50:36
    BabyBear
    +1
    "Trust me, I'm with the government. " There's a reason this is considered scary.
  • lauren dull 2012/04/12 23:53:34
    Real
    lauren dull
    +4
    The Liberals have a war on women , not the conservatives.Look at the obama WH , who has lost the jobs.
  • Dan™: Real Change, Not Fals... 2012/04/12 23:47:59 (edited)
    Manufactured
    Dan™: Real Change, Not False Hope
    +4
    It's wholly fabricated election year nonsense. And it's actually not helping Obama. According to the Washington Post today ( http://www.washingtonpost.com... ), Obama's approval rating among women was at 70% when he took office. This morning it slipped to 49%. Over the past few weeks while all of this "War Against Women" rhetoric has been pushed, his numbers with women have declined slightly.
  • Suzy 2012/04/12 23:46:22
    Manufactured
    Suzy
    +7
    Manufactured by the democrats.
  • lauren ... Suzy 2012/04/12 23:54:30
    lauren dull
    +2
    They are the one's with a war on women.
  • LADY LI... lauren ... 2012/04/13 02:47:38
    LADY LIBERTY SILLY WORDSMITH
    +1
    Dear Lauren, do you click a wrong button? I read your opinion & feel that way.
  • lauren ... LADY LI... 2012/04/14 01:35:00
    lauren dull
    maybe
  • tpops 2012/04/12 23:40:28
    Manufactured
    tpops
    +6
    This all began when George Stephanopoulos asked Romney a question concerning birth control in a debate and Romney answered that he didn't know what he was talking about. Obama brought the Catholic Church into this war but last night Rosen changed the whole debate with her stupid comment and Ann Romney shot her down with a single Tweet and Rosen and the Democrats are now doing the backstroke.

    Way to go Ann Romney
  • exhon2009 2012/04/12 23:39:28
    Manufactured
    exhon2009
    +5
    It's Obama's re-election strategy to pit group against group to fire his base up. It's apparent that he cannot run on his record particularly if Obamacare gets ruled unconstitutional by the supremes.
  • davidgoessplat 2012/04/12 23:38:43
    Manufactured
    davidgoessplat
    +5
    Its just a liberal scare tactic to frighten women into voting for Obama. There is no war on women.
  • Jane 2012/04/12 23:26:34
    Real
    Jane
    +5
    And it is being waged by religion.
  • exhon2009 Jane 2012/04/12 23:37:21
    exhon2009
    Islam?
  • Jane exhon2009 2012/04/14 04:28:56
    Jane
    All religion.
  • exhon2009 Jane 2012/04/17 05:11:08
    exhon2009
    Under Sharia law women are chattel property. They can be stoned to death for adultery. The word of one man is equal to the word of two women. If they dishhonor the family the father can kill the daughter with impunity.

    Can you provide examples of parallel treatment by Jews or Christians towards women? (Modern history).
  • Jane exhon2009 2012/04/17 07:43:25 (edited)
    Jane
    Find them yourself, I don't care to delve in to your bible or any other religious books any more. Those kind of books disgust me.
  • exhon2009 Jane 2012/04/17 15:35:09
    exhon2009
    I wasn't asking you to look up anything. I was merely asking you to cite examples that led you to the conclusion that there is a war on women led by religion. Since you don't know any I have to conclude you are simply repeating talking points.
  • Jane exhon2009 2012/04/17 15:47:24
    Jane
    It is so obvious, and not talking points, reality: You would take away my right to choose and make it harder to get birth control. Hell there are even some of the religious right that don't think women should vote.
  • exhon2009 Jane 2012/04/17 16:02:40
    exhon2009
    No I wouldn't take away your right to have an abortion. While I personally don't approve of it I do believe it is a personal choice up to a point. I believe partial birth abortion is murder. The argument over birth control has nothing to do with its availability but everything to do with requiring employers to pay for it. Birth control can cost as little as 10 bucks a month, you can pay for it yourself. There are many on the extreme left that don't think ANYONE should vote. Witness Woody Allen's call for Obama to simply seize power and rule by fiat.

    90% of the babies aborted in this country were probably future democratic voters. Democrats would be in a perpetual majority if it were not for abortion. This fact is not lost on the Nation of Islam folks that deplore abortion as a genocide of black babies in this country.
  • Jane exhon2009 2012/04/17 16:14:37
    Jane
    We actually agree on the abortion issue. The argument over birth control has nothing to do with requiring employers to pay for it. Employers are required to supply health insurance to their employees and if some religious people don't want birth control pills, well they shouldn't get them.
    What ever Woody Allen says is irrelevant and does not represent any liberals. And your last statement is ambiguous.
  • exhon2009 Jane 2012/04/17 17:19:30
    exhon2009
    Employers are NOT required to supply health insurance, (Obamacare which is under review by the courts nothwithstanding). A court recently ruled that a company that already supplied healthcare to it's employees had to offer it to same sex couples that were married. Since the basis for the court's ruling was that it was discriminatory, the company could have resolved the issue by dropping coverage for all employees.

    You made the statement that some on the right, without naming anyone, don't think that women should vote. I countered by pointing out that a well known person on the left doesn't think anyone should have a vote, (i.e. a Marxist dictatorship). If Woody Allen is irrelevant, what does that make unknown nobodys on the right? Less than irrelevant.

    I could have been clearer in my last statement. I find it ironical that the left generally supports abortion while the right generally opposes it. The irony is that a huge majority of the babies being aborted would be future voters for the left.
  • KoolGuyL Jane 2012/04/12 23:40:59
    KoolGuyL
    +3
    No, extremely religious people. There is a big difference.
  • Suzy KoolGuyL 2012/04/12 23:46:56
    Suzy
    Muslims aren't extremely religious?
  • lauren ... Suzy 2012/04/12 23:55:41
    lauren dull
    They sure know how to treat women.
  • Suzy lauren ... 2012/04/13 01:44:20
    Suzy
    +1
    For sure.
  • @TheMis... KoolGuyL 2012/04/13 01:11:04
    @TheMissesHelp <-Follow/Tweet me
    +2
    I don't recall christians writing a book on how to beat wives properly...
  • Jane @TheMis... 2012/04/14 04:30:10
    Jane
    The old testament.

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