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Is the War on Women Real or Manufactured?

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Politics got personal on Wednesday when Democratic strategist Hilary Rosen accused Mitt Romney's wife, Ann Romney, of having "never worked a day in her life." It moved Mrs. Romney to send her first tweet ever ("I made a choice to stay home and raise five boys. Believe me, it was hard work"), setting off a debate over the decision to work or stay home. But The Christian Science Monitor is calling it a "fake" debate.

Ann told Fox News, "[Rosen] should have come to my house when those five boys were causing so much trouble, it wasn’t so easy. My career choice was to be a mother. And I think all of us need to know that we need to respect the choices that women make. Other women make other choices to have a career and raise a family, which I think Hilary Rosen has actually done herself. I respect that, that's wonderful... We have to respect women in all those choices that they make."

But Rosen is sticking to her guns, and responded to the criticism in a CNN editorial: "I have no judgments about women who work outside the home versus women who work in the home raising a family. I admire women who can stay home and raise their kids full time. I even envy them sometimes. It is a wonderful luxury to have the choice. But let's stipulate that it is not a choice that most women have in America today." We're not sure if Hilary Rosen or Ann Romney wins this debate, but that's not really the point. Do you think these kinds of feuds are real -- or just manufactured to get a vote in politics?

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  • Grammar... bettyboop 2012/04/21 23:34:23
    Grammar Freak
    That's a form of birth control, My Dear. Sterilization would also be controlled under a Republican agenda... that includes sterilization.
  • Pete 2012/04/18 12:17:38
    Manufactured
    Pete
    +1
    War on women? What a laugh. Demo’s and Lib’s and main media just throw punches in the air with their eyes close, hoping to hit something that will take American’s eyes off of Obama’s fail administration. What Obama doesn’t understand is America love for freedom and that socialist idealism has failed every part of the world, so why does he think it will work in America
  • moiraregis Pete 2012/04/18 14:31:14
    moiraregis
    +4
    so, pete, you wouldn't mind, then, if your access to a urologist and all that viagra he can supply to your doubtless flaccid penis is cut off? You're a man, and therefore have far less say in this debate than any woman does. also, you write like a second-grader. this has zero to do with whatever your tiny little mind has defined as "socialism", a word taught you by your demigods sean and rushbo. you don't understand American women's love for freedom--from unplanned or unwanted pregnancy and sexually transmitted disease. God, I hope some poor woman didn't make the mistake of marrying an idiot like you.
  • Defend ... moiraregis 2012/04/19 12:22:56
    Defend Western Civlization
    more propaganda from the FASCIST RACIST SEXIST ANTI SEMITE obama THUG regime
  • joe.astro Defend ... 2012/04/22 09:25:44
    joe.astro
    GET HELP
  • Ali Powell Pete 2012/04/18 19:10:44
    Ali Powell
    +5
    yeah socialism never worked out when used for healthcare systems in europe... ahhh sarcasm. And hey buddy, when someone tells me that before I can get an abortion they would like to rape me with an ultrasound wand is a wee bit indicative of a "war on women". Let me know when they cut Viagra coverage since ED isn't a real disorder and should have never been in a DSM.
  • Grammar... Pete 2012/04/19 00:00:53
    Grammar Freak
    +1
    Not true. Socialist ideals have certainly not failed every part of the world.
    Some European nations are doing quite well & those that are not doing well either socially or financially, are not failing due to Socialist ideals... it's generally been due to corruption & other mismanagement issues.

    This is not to say that we should have Socialism in the US... not on the federal level anyway. Our nation is far too big & our constitution forbids it from even being as big as it already is. Any social programs should be implemented on the state level, not the federal level. Then things would be legal... & they would likely function far better.

    But to say that Socialist idealism has failed in every part of the world is incorrect.
    Communism... now that one hasn't worked out well at all... anywhere.
    But they're two different pairs of shoes.
  • sodabox Pete 2012/04/19 04:02:08
  • Gaus 2012/04/18 12:16:40
    Real
    Gaus
    +1
    War on women was real but its over now ...Rick Santorum is gone:-) rick santorum  taliban  war on women
  • Playerazzi 2012/04/18 12:16:17
    Manufactured
    Playerazzi
    Huh? WHAT war on women?

    WTF?
  • Zacky D Playerazzi 2012/04/18 22:47:03
    Zacky D
    its what it is called don't be a literal larry
  • Playerazzi Zacky D 2012/04/19 07:31:20
    Playerazzi
    Huh?
  • sodabox Playerazzi 2012/04/19 04:02:27
  • Playerazzi sodabox 2012/04/19 07:33:27
    Playerazzi
    You've convinced me with that asinine video.

    I'm a Republican now.
  • sodabox Playerazzi 2012/04/19 15:02:32
    sodabox
    The fact that you think the video is asinine shows you are pro-war on women or can you make a case for the video being asinine?
  • Playerazzi sodabox 2012/04/22 07:01:01
    Playerazzi
    Personal attacks do not add to your position.

    Many of the statements are indeed true, for example that most abortions are for lifestyle convenience. Yet it's presented as being ridiculous.

    The fact that a woman made a decision to "be vaginally penetrated" is indeed a choice. She made that choice at the time, and a responsible woman will take what could happen into account.

    They present a quote by Rush Limbaugh, who represents no one except himself.

    And I find it hard to believe how a woman - Ann Coulter to be precise - can be guilty of waging a "war" against women.

    It is a vindictive, evil-spirited, mud-slinging video, and ignores the fact that some of the best Presidents we have had were Republicans, from Lincoln to TR Roosevelt to Ike to Reagan.

    To be fair, I'm sure the Republicans are preparing some asinine videos of their own, although I haven't seen them yet.

    Finally other fine deeds and statements by members of the Republican party are conveniently glossed over, like this:


  • sodabox Playerazzi 2012/04/22 16:04:11
    sodabox
    "The fact that a woman made a decision to "be vaginally penetrated" is indeed a choice."

    Not if it is rape.

    Thanks for posting your opinion. I hope everyone woman sees it and sees that it is the face of the GOP. No woman would ever vote GOP again.
  • Playerazzi sodabox 2012/04/23 08:48:44
    Playerazzi
    Pretty funny. Tell that to the millions of women who are registered Republicans.

    But I don't represent the GOP, it's just my own opinion.

    And you don't represent women. Neither do the actresses in the video. It's just their own opinion.

    Mitt Romney on women
  • Lisa 2012/04/18 08:41:16
    Real
    Lisa
    +1
    The war on women is manufactured by the left and is a real war on Conservative women!
  • Ali Powell Lisa 2012/04/18 19:11:19
    Ali Powell
    +5
    please, go on.
  • Somkey the Hores 2012/04/18 05:44:26
    Manufactured
    Somkey the Hores
    Leftist BS.
  • sodabox Somkey ... 2012/04/19 04:03:00
  • Met 2012/04/18 04:52:38 (edited)
  • Lisa Met 2012/04/18 19:33:49
    Lisa
    +2
    All of your statements are blatently untrue and furthermore you should learn how to spell and have some decorum.

    Intelligent women are not dropping Republicans , that is just what the left wants people like you to think.

    We are fired up and madder than ever at Obamas phony war on women and failed policies robbing us at the gas tank and at the grocery store and on and on!
  • Grammar... Lisa 2012/04/19 00:14:38 (edited)
  • Ozzyboy Grammar... 2012/04/19 02:43:56
    Ozzyboy
    +1
    If you haven't read the Obamacare bill, you have NO IDEA of what is coming down the pike for you and it isn't from the repubs. That bill will be the one that strips your of all decision making by making healthcare a crisis issue, then it will be a rationing situation and that is how your health care decisions will be stripped from you. Go and read it and weep.
  • Grammar... Ozzyboy 2012/04/19 09:41:20
    Grammar Freak
    Right.
    I am not in favor of the health care bill. I don't think it's a good idea at all for the US. We're too big for blanket reforms like that. Were the federal government to regulate some of the insurance & pharma industries' practices, that would be welcome. But to put blanket reforms on all 50 states is foolish &, frankly, unconstitutional.

    But, denying the women-specific actions taken by the Republican Party is foolish. They are definitely dancing to their own, male-centered tune.

    Neither party is working in the best interest of the American People. Isn't that clear? They're working toward the best interests of their respective lobbies & campaign contributors. We need a change of the guard. There's far too much corruption & too many unconstitutional actions taking place in DC. Our two-party system isn't working. All they're doing is fighting each other to the detriment of our nation. They're both willing to wreck our economy as well as our environment & anything else that is necessary in order to force the other to "lose." The problem is that when that happens, the entire nation loses.
    I say, "Fire the entire lot of them!" They're corrupt, their actions are unconstitutional & they're no good for America.

    Aside from that, yes, you're correct about the health care bil...
    Right.
    I am not in favor of the health care bill. I don't think it's a good idea at all for the US. We're too big for blanket reforms like that. Were the federal government to regulate some of the insurance & pharma industries' practices, that would be welcome. But to put blanket reforms on all 50 states is foolish &, frankly, unconstitutional.

    But, denying the women-specific actions taken by the Republican Party is foolish. They are definitely dancing to their own, male-centered tune.

    Neither party is working in the best interest of the American People. Isn't that clear? They're working toward the best interests of their respective lobbies & campaign contributors. We need a change of the guard. There's far too much corruption & too many unconstitutional actions taking place in DC. Our two-party system isn't working. All they're doing is fighting each other to the detriment of our nation. They're both willing to wreck our economy as well as our environment & anything else that is necessary in order to force the other to "lose." The problem is that when that happens, the entire nation loses.
    I say, "Fire the entire lot of them!" They're corrupt, their actions are unconstitutional & they're no good for America.

    Aside from that, yes, you're correct about the health care bill. But that does not negate the fact that the Republican Party is definitely out to set our nation back to the 1950's. Why they hell would they want to do that? Control issues? Fear of something?
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  • Ozzyboy Grammar... 2012/04/19 17:12:24
    Ozzyboy
    +1
    Obamacare is the biggest power grab in history. Did you read it? The dems passed it and none of them read it. I think it is the Dems who want to set our nation back to the 1950's and it is definitely for control. Yes it is fear - fear of the educated, working American people. They are the ones in the way of this lawless power grab. Make the American people defenseless and broke so they can't protect themselves. Destroy anyone who doesn't go along with their
    policy. Alinsky much??? Read the health care bill. Read the part where government will control the time between births. Abortion to control those births? This is just one small paragraph in all those controlling pages.
  • Grammar... Ozzyboy 2012/04/20 12:34:12
    Grammar Freak
    As I've stated already, I am definitely not in favor of the health care bill.

    But every single statement you made could be said for the majority of Congress who voted for the Patriot Act. If you really want to be angry, read the Patriot Act & then you will see a blatent, unlawful "power-grab."
    The same for the National Defense Authorization Act.

    In my opinion, our federal government is way out of line, often acts unlawfully & needs to be put in check. I believe the majority of Congress need to lose their jobs & their life-long benefits. They are scoundrels & fleece our nation in many different ways on a regular basis. I believe we need more than two parties. The two we've got now are corrupt beyond repair & do not work for the betterment of our nation or The People.

    Ron Paul 2012.
  • Ozzyboy Grammar... 2012/04/20 14:21:27
    Ozzyboy
    You are right about the Patriot Act. Whatever label they give these things, believe it to be the exact opposite. Both parties are corrupted with only one slightly less than the other. I like Ron Paul in many areas. I wish we could take all the good characteristics from all the candidates and make one really true American candidate for the American people to vote for. ABO - 0 will surely finish destroying this country if he gets in another term.
  • Grammar... Ozzyboy 2012/04/21 13:35:32
    Grammar Freak
    Think about what people say they want in a candidate:
    integrity
    honesty
    knowledge & understanding of the government, economics, finance, foreign affairs/policy, history
    adherence to the oath to defend & uphold the Constitution
    experience
    family values

    Pick one that Ron Paul is lacking in.

    ...you can't can you?
    We HAVE candidate who is truely American & will work for the betterment of America, including ALL the American people, without exception.
    We need look no further.

    Why do so many people choose to be blind to him?
    I don't understand why people ignore it when they're handed EXACTLY what they say they want!!
    His message hasn't changed in over 34 years.






    There is only one choice.
    Ron Paul 2012.
  • Ozzyboy Grammar... 2012/04/21 14:11:08
    Ozzyboy
    Disagree with him completely on foreign affairs and his drug policy. Not one but two. Stop being such a radical and your last line to Lisa below is just creepy and nasty.
  • Grammar... Ozzyboy 2012/04/22 00:04:46 (edited)
    Grammar Freak
    The thing is, she's promoting that very attitude in the workplace.
    There are women who have to work under conditions where people say those things... men & women both. I've witnessed it. A supervisor said, in what he thought was a really hilarious way, that the cashier trying to get her work done "just has her period, Everybody, don't mind her," to a line of customers when she got irritated at his incompetence that caused the customers, & her, to wait for an unreasonable amount of time. He was a complete jerk to her & caused everyone waiting in line to be embarrassed & uncomfortable. It was only one of many blatant forms of public, embarrassing, sexual harassment situations I have directly witnessed in a workplace situation. Everyone stood there in shock at what he said to her. She got up & walked away from her checkout line, enraged.

    Lisa has apparently never had to have her job in order to survive. She has apparently never been in the position to have to endure such treatment & feel publicly humiliated while also feeling completely powerless to do anything to stop it without losing her job. And there just might not be many other jobs around, you know? So the single mother... or married mother, for that matter, would have no recourse for such behavior in the society Lisa sug...&

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    The thing is, she's promoting that very attitude in the workplace.
    There are women who have to work under conditions where people say those things... men & women both. I've witnessed it. A supervisor said, in what he thought was a really hilarious way, that the cashier trying to get her work done "just has her period, Everybody, don't mind her," to a line of customers when she got irritated at his incompetence that caused the customers, & her, to wait for an unreasonable amount of time. He was a complete jerk to her & caused everyone waiting in line to be embarrassed & uncomfortable. It was only one of many blatant forms of public, embarrassing, sexual harassment situations I have directly witnessed in a workplace situation. Everyone stood there in shock at what he said to her. She got up & walked away from her checkout line, enraged.

    Lisa has apparently never had to have her job in order to survive. She has apparently never been in the position to have to endure such treatment & feel publicly humiliated while also feeling completely powerless to do anything to stop it without losing her job. And there just might not be many other jobs around, you know? So the single mother... or married mother, for that matter, would have no recourse for such behavior in the society Lisa suggests... the 50s mentality. She could either work there & put up with it or quit. She would likely be unable to collect any assistance because she quit instead of being laid-off or fired.

    The point I was trying to illustrate to Lisa is that in the 50s, women had zero recourse whatsoever for anything, & did, in fact, have to tolerate similar & much worse abuse if they were even hired. The stigma of being a single mother in the 50s was unbelievable & it wasn't much better up until the 80s at least. The Republican establishment seems to be an a course to set our nation back to those times instead of working forward, toward an attitude more practical... such as the 2050s, when, hopefully, no one will have such an attitude.

    People have been fighting for women to receive fair treatment in the workplace for decades... for Lisa to receive fair treatment... to make daily life less stressful, less degrading & more normal.
    For her to say that women are less intelligent than men is frankly, shocking. The problem is that women have not, until recently, had the same opportunities to attend the same university courses as men. Universities were often (& some professions still statistically are) gender segregated. The number of women entering engineering is quite high nowadays, however in the past it was extremely low to nearly non-existent. But it certainly had nothing whatsoever to do with women's intelligence.

    I do not believe that anyone in 2050 will even think the words "What... do you have your period or something?" I believe that is a comment better left in the 50s. My use of it was an attempted illustration of all the resulting personal reactions to such treatment in hopes she might understand what it might be like for a woman to have to endure such treatment daily or regularly in the place she spends a huge bulk of her life.
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  • Ozzyboy Grammar... 2012/04/22 02:31:44
    Ozzyboy
    A lot of talk to cover your rotten a$$. You dems have shown the least respect and the most degrading behavior toward women - think Maher and the $1 mil payoff to spew nastiness that was paid to the WH. I don't believe a word you say. The picture doesn't add up.
  • Grammar... Ozzyboy 2012/04/22 11:18:26
    Grammar Freak
    I'm no Democrat.
    I'm no Republican.

    I've seen/heard old men say things like she's said, but not many. The idea that a woman thinks women are less intelligent than men is actually so dumb she might even be proving her own point... is at least giving a hell of an example.
  • Lisa Grammar... 2012/04/19 03:59:30
    Lisa
    +1
    Good I hope they repeal all those laws that require more and more government workers just to oversee them! Big government and more laws is not the answer. If you want a raise go and ask for it or do a better job than your male or female colleague! You people love to litigate the heck out of everything , my rights, my rights..blah blah blah!
    Less government does not control every aspect of your life..big government does..why are you so screwed up in your thinking? Republicans. Want less laws governing your life , Democrats want to control how many times you use the bathroom!
  • Grammar... Lisa 2012/04/19 09:46:07
    Grammar Freak
    That's not "big government." That's the ability to get monetary reparations from an unfair employer. It has little to nothing to do with "big government."

    "You people... "
    What the hell is that? I am one of you! I'm an American. I'm not a Democrat. I'm not a Republican. I'm just a pissed off American. "You people" is you, me, your neighbor, your mother, your friend, etc.
    When you work for a living.... & you work hard... you expect to be compensated fairly.
    The idea that all employers pay equally is simply naive. Until the day comes when we don't have to tell employers that they can't get away with saving money by screwing women, we have no choice but to legislate it.
    It doesn't make for "big government." There is no agency overseeing these things. It just allows women to sue for equal compensation... that's it.
    Don't be so irrational.
    What... do you have your period?
  • Lisa Grammar... 2012/04/19 15:06:01 (edited)
    Lisa
    Not all employers have to pay the same to anyone they want.. You don't get it do you? Private companies can set their own pay scales because they are private.. Go work for the government and get your equal pay!
    By "you people" I meant that. Some people want everything to be "equal" when in life nothing is equal. I think some women and men are equal ..others are not in intelligence. If you are an average woman working along side a man who falls in the upper end of the bell curve, you are not going to be as capable or viewed as valuable as that man!
    Face it or try harder to get noticed. Whining and passing stupid regulations , laws and other measures to make sure women get equal pay is a waste of time and causes problems for the companies giving women jobs!
    By the way, even with all the regulations, I heard that government women workers still don't have equal pay .. So even in the government women don't excel!
  • Grammar... Lisa 2012/04/20 12:40:31
  • Lisa Grammar... 2012/04/20 13:13:08 (edited)
    Lisa
    You are a mean and nasty person. These are my opinions thoughts, you don't like them, so I dont care! I grew up in a middle class family , I am not rich .. I worked for years in the pharma industry with men with women in sales positions , I raised a diabetic type 1 child and another child to adulthood, they are wonderful people. I am a single woman, I have never worn a burka and don't plan to , I don't even have. Boyfriend!

    I just think the women's movement has screwed up men's minds that it has backfired on women! Maybe some women would like to stay home and take care of the kids and just be a Mom, what is wrong with that! When iwas married my husband let me stay home ith our kids because he knew how important it was.! His mother was always working and. He came home to an empty house everyday!

    Stop with your asinine accusations! You sound like a bitter FEMINIST BITCH! I knew I should have blocked you the last time.. Better follow my instincts and do it now . Have a nice day of frustration and agony because you can't keep up with the men! Geeesch!

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