Is the War on Women Real or Manufactured?
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2012/04/12 19:18:14
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Politics got personal on Wednesday when Democratic strategist Hilary Rosen accused Mitt Romney's wife, Ann Romney, of having "never worked a day in her life." It moved Mrs. Romney to send her first tweet ever ("I made a choice to stay home and raise five boys. Believe me, it was hard work"), setting off a debate over the decision to work or stay home. But The Christian Science Monitor is calling it a "fake" debate.
Ann told Fox News, "[Rosen] should have come to my house when those five boys were causing so much trouble, it wasn’t so easy. My career choice was to be a mother. And I think all of us need to know that we need to respect the choices that women make. Other women make other choices to have a career and raise a family, which I think Hilary Rosen has actually done herself. I respect that, that's wonderful... We have to respect women in all those choices that they make."
But Rosen is sticking to her guns, and responded to the criticism in a CNN editorial: "I have no judgments about women who work outside the home versus women who work in the home raising a family. I admire women who can stay home and raise their kids full time. I even envy them sometimes. It is a wonderful luxury to have the choice. But let's stipulate that it is not a choice that most women have in America today." We're not sure if Hilary Rosen or Ann Romney wins this debate, but that's not really the point. Do you think these kinds of feuds are real -- or just manufactured to get a vote in politics?

Ann told Fox News, "[Rosen] should have come to my house when those five boys were causing so much trouble, it wasn’t so easy. My career choice was to be a mother. And I think all of us need to know that we need to respect the choices that women make. Other women make other choices to have a career and raise a family, which I think Hilary Rosen has actually done herself. I respect that, that's wonderful... We have to respect women in all those choices that they make."
But Rosen is sticking to her guns, and responded to the criticism in a CNN editorial: "I have no judgments about women who work outside the home versus women who work in the home raising a family. I admire women who can stay home and raise their kids full time. I even envy them sometimes. It is a wonderful luxury to have the choice. But let's stipulate that it is not a choice that most women have in America today." We're not sure if Hilary Rosen or Ann Romney wins this debate, but that's not really the point. Do you think these kinds of feuds are real -- or just manufactured to get a vote in politics?

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I agree that America’s health care problems need to be addressed but in order to do that they need to drill right down into the cause of problem. The biggest problem seems to be that health care is too expensive. Why is health care so expensive?
Is it because the pharmaceutical companies charge Americans more for prescription medication then they do any other nation on the planet?
Or could it be that permitting pharmaceutical companies to directly market their products to the general public it sends us racing to our doctors, clogging up their waiting rooms, to get a prescription because their advertisements make us think if we take their pill everything that is wrong with our lives will miraculously right themselves.
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I agree that America’s health care problems need to be addressed but in order to do that they need to drill right down into the cause of problem. The biggest problem seems to be that health care is too expensive. Why is health care so expensive?
Is it because the pharmaceutical companies charge Americans more for prescription medication then they do any other nation on the planet?
Or could it be that permitting pharmaceutical companies to directly market their products to the general public it sends us racing to our doctors, clogging up their waiting rooms, to get a prescription because their advertisements make us think if we take their pill everything that is wrong with our lives will miraculously right themselves.
Or perhaps the fault lies with doctors themselves. Do people actually get into medicine because they want to help sick people and/or cure diseases or do they get into it for the money? Being a doctor can prove to be a very very lucrative occupation. And receiving monetary incentives from pharmaceutical companies certainly help boost their income.
Is it because the health care system has gone from being a service to the community to a profit driven money making operation?
Are American’s themselves to blame for cost of health care, have we turned into a nation of hypochondriacs leading sedentary lives, driving up demand therefore driving up the price.
Or could it be the “Blame” culture in America. We as nation litigation enthusiasts, the slightest bit of inconvenience and we’re running to our lawyers.
I don’t profess to know how to fix the woes of the American health care system but I do know that legislation on top of legislation such as Obamacare is just papering over the cracks. It’s like putting a band-aid on a broken bone. Bureaucrats should not be at the forefront of healthcare, medical professionals should.
Some women will believe it, no doubt... but they're Liberals in the first place.
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The folks that at out of touch are the Obama's. I hello takes a 757 to Hawaii and the president take air force 1.
Their new wealth is spending your money and not their own on lavish vacations as public employees.
I'm sure if you spent a day with Ann Romney , your opinion would change.
America provides the oppurtunities to all at different times if they are prepared for sucess . The vast majority are not wealthy like Obama, Kennedys,George Soros, nancy Polosi,or others. The Romneys earned it. I'm sure you would agree it is good to succeed . Romneys gave 21% of their income to charity as a pattern of life. Not because it was politically expedient.
The saftey net you want has 41% more people in it since Obama. Don't you think it's time we look for a President is interested on creating a environment for people that want to fish , instead of just contiuing to feed them. The saftey net is self reliance. Disciplined behavior . Saving and taking care of ones family and not looking to the Gov't. to give me a fish to eat.
Just how is one to 'save and take care of ones family' when folks like Romney have off shored the good paying job you used to have to China and raided your pension fund at government expense to pay off his investors? Americans aren't looking to the government to give them a fish, they are looking to government to protect them from folks like Romney that net all the fish and sell them to make themselves rich while you and your family go hungry.
I'll leave you with this tid bit from a 1930's politician, the last time we had a depression:
"How many men ever went to a barbecue and would let one man take off the table what's intended for 9/10th of the people to eat? The only way to be able to feed the balance of the people is to make that man come back and bring back some of that grub that he ain't got no business with! [Laughter and applause]
Now we got a barbecue. We have been praying to the Almighty to send us to a feast. We have knelt on our knees morning and nighttim...
Just how is one to 'save and take care of ones family' when folks like Romney have off shored the good paying job you used to have to China and raided your pension fund at government expense to pay off his investors? Americans aren't looking to the government to give them a fish, they are looking to government to protect them from folks like Romney that net all the fish and sell them to make themselves rich while you and your family go hungry.
I'll leave you with this tid bit from a 1930's politician, the last time we had a depression:
"How many men ever went to a barbecue and would let one man take off the table what's intended for 9/10th of the people to eat? The only way to be able to feed the balance of the people is to make that man come back and bring back some of that grub that he ain't got no business with! [Laughter and applause]
Now we got a barbecue. We have been praying to the Almighty to send us to a feast. We have knelt on our knees morning and nighttime. The Lord has answered the prayer. He has called the barbecue. "Come to my feast," He said to 125 million American people. But Morgan and Rockefeller and Mellon and Baruch (and Romney) have walked up and took 85 percent of the victuals off the table!
Now, how are you going to feed the balance of the people? What's Morgan and Baruch and Rockefeller and Mellon (and Romney) going to do with all that grub? They can't eat it, they can't wear the clothes, they can't live in the houses.
Giv'em a yacht! Giv'em a Palace! Send 'em to Reno and give them a new wife when they want it, if that's what they want. [Laughter] But when they've got everything on God's loving earth that they can eat and they can wear and they can live in, and all that their children can live in and wear and eat, and all of their children's children can use, then we've got to call Mr. Morgan and Mr. Mellon an Mr. Rockefeller back and say, come back here, put that stuff back on this table here that you took away from here that you don't need. Leave something else for the American people to consume. And that's the program. [Applause]
We will call in Mr. Rockefeller, Mr. Morgan, Mr. Mellon....Dear Mr. Mellon, We're not going to destroy the capitalistic system, but we're going to put in a limit, you can have up to 4- to 5-million dollars and that's all. We're not going to destroy the Gulf Refining Company; we're not going to destroy the Standard Oil Company, but we're going to say that the limit of any one man's stock ownership in the Standard Oil company is from 3- to 5-million dollars for that individual and the balance to the people of America who own the balance of what the Standard Oil company is worth! [applause]
Then, we start from the bottom. That the 25 or more million American families shall have a homestead. Up to $5,000....a home and the comforts of a home, including an automobile and a radio, the things it takes in that house to live on...
We say to America, 125 million, none shall be too big, none shall be too poor, none shall work too much, none shall be idle. No luxurious mansions empty, none walking the streets, none impoverished, none in pestilence, none in want, but in the land blessed by the smile of the Creator with everything to be consumed, to be eaten, to be worn, that America will become a land, sharing the fruits of the land, not for the favored few, not to satisfy greed, but that all may live in the land in which the Lord has prov
I think you need to read the book "Why Nations Fail". The problem we are facing today is the increasing calcification of American society into a nearly immutable class structure in which is increasingly difficult to move up. Historically speaking, the US is following the trajectory of nearly all empires, at first during the Republic there is lots of social mobility people can enter and leave the different wealth based classes by dint of effort. This is good because it adds a kind of vibrancy to the culture in which everyone has a stake in supporting the institutions that helped to bring it about. But from the standpoint of someone in the top few per cent, social mobility brings with something of and uncertainty: competition. Competition means that returns on investment become less certain and one of the main goals in business is to remove uncertainty and create predictability. In the 1950's the highest tax rate was 90%. In today's case we have 600 families in the top 1% paying zero in taxes , fully half of the 1% pays under 10% and the remainder pay no more than 35% in taxes. Meanwhile, large amounts of government largess flow to the top in the form of bank bailouts, government defense contracts, and even in the form of pension insurance that pays for folks like Romney at Bain to raid employee retirement funds in order to secure a profit for their investors! Its a kind of welfare for the rich. In addition, the wealthy secure the positions of their sons and daughters by sending them to elite private schools and as legacies to the best universities. These are advantages that most will not have and can only have access to if there are government programs in place to make that a real possibility, like student loans, good public education, unemployment insurance and access to health care. If you believe that what makes America great is the ability for all persons to rise, and fall, by the dint of their own efforts or lack thereof then you should be in favor of inheritance taxes the fall the hardest on the wealthiest, not laws that merely allow wealth to pass from generation to generation like an untitled nobility. I realize this is a rambling statement, but your reply is so full of BS that it deserved and in depth response, not a bumper sticker.
Look being a full time Mom is work, in most cases they clean the house, do the shopping, do the budget, and take care of the kids. I'd like to see Miss Rosen do that job! But see people like her let other people raise their kids, and clean the house.
By the way, you should update the information in your question. This was recently posted: "Less than 24 hours after Democratic strategist Hilary Rosen mocked Ann Romney for having "never worked a day in her life," Rosen apologized to Romney this afternoon for her "poorly chosen" words and aimed to "put the faux 'war against stay at home moms' to rest once and for all."
"I apologize to Ann Romney and anyone else who was offended," Rosen said in a statement. "Let's declare peace in this phony war and go back to focus on the substance.""
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Or did you not read anything?
The GOP is trying to ban Planned Parenthood. The GOP has voted for the Blunt rule. The GOP does not want Ins. Co.s to pay for contraceptives. The GOP does not agree with the Lilly Ledbetter Rule, equal pay for equal work for women. I'm sure there is more, but this is what the war on women by the GOP is all about. It is not waged against women who are able and want to stay home to raise their children.
The GOP are using this as a way to get women to back the Romney campaign.
By the way, I wouldn't step inside to shop in a Wall Mart store ever. They sell the lowest grade merchandise possible because it all comes from outside our own Country. I heard recently that they plan to open free standing grocery stores. I wonder how many recalls on food we'll be having from them?
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But to directly answer your points, here are the facts about Margerate Sanger. Yes, early in her career she believed in eugenics. But not for racial reasons. She believed that birth control should be available to poor women. The following quote is from the Feminists for Choice website:
"Unlike most eugenicists, Margaret Sanger did not advocate for birth control because she felt that certain groups of women should have babies, while others should not. Sanger believed that birth control should be available to all women, particularly those who were poor, because limiting their number of children would help mothers provide a better quality of life for their families, especially when resources were limited. Sanger believed that reproductive decisions should be made by the individual woman, and not on a social or cultural basis, and she consistently argued against the racialized application of eugenics principals. Margaret Sanger eventually abandoned the eugenics movement, and her reasoning is very clear from a statement that she made in 1919:
'Eugenists imply or insist that a woman’s first duty is to the state; we contend that her duty to herself is her first duty to the s...
But to directly answer your points, here are the facts about Margerate Sanger. Yes, early in her career she believed in eugenics. But not for racial reasons. She believed that birth control should be available to poor women. The following quote is from the Feminists for Choice website:
"Unlike most eugenicists, Margaret Sanger did not advocate for birth control because she felt that certain groups of women should have babies, while others should not. Sanger believed that birth control should be available to all women, particularly those who were poor, because limiting their number of children would help mothers provide a better quality of life for their families, especially when resources were limited. Sanger believed that reproductive decisions should be made by the individual woman, and not on a social or cultural basis, and she consistently argued against the racialized application of eugenics principals. Margaret Sanger eventually abandoned the eugenics movement, and her reasoning is very clear from a statement that she made in 1919:
'Eugenists imply or insist that a woman’s first duty is to the state; we contend that her duty to herself is her first duty to the state. We maintain that a woman possessing an adequate knowledge of her reproductive functions is the best judge of the time and conditions under which her child should be brought into the world. We further maintain that is is her right, to determine whether she shall bear children or not, and how many children she shall bear if she chooses to become a mother . . . Only upon a free, self-determining motherhood can rest any unshakable structure of racial betterment.' (Source: The Birth Control Review, February 1919)"
Similarly, Margerate Sanger was not a racist. That view point is taken from a quote she made about why it was important to recruit black doctors in the deep south to help set up birth control clinics for black women. She wanted to counter the perception among the black community that she advocated birth control to limit the numbers of blacks in the population, an idea stemming from eugenics. Here is the quote that has been taken out of context: "We do not want the word to get out that we want to exterminate the Negro population." She didn't want the black community to reject birth control because of a false belief that birth control was a deliberate attempt to reduce black numbers.
OK, you can stop waiting.....