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Is the ultimate goal of Obamacare to unionize 21 million health care workers?

Quietman ~PWCM~JLA 2012/08/20 21:05:24
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In a book set for publication Tuesday, a politics and government professor at The Citadel claims President Obama’s 2009 health care reform law was, in part, a union-driven effort to organize 21 million health care workers.


In ”Shadowbosses: Government Unions Control America and Rob Taxpayers Blind,” Mallory Factor describes a December 9, 2008 memo from Service Employees International Union (SEIU) Healthcare president Dennis Rivera to the Obama-Biden transition team.


That memo outlined a legislative proposal calling for “increasing the capacity of the health care workforce” as part of a larger health care reform initiative.



The SEIU and the Federation of State, County and Municipal Employees (AFSCME), Factor writes, later coordinated with other public-sector unions to spend “literally hundreds of millions of dollars promoting Obamacare.”


The Daily Caller requested comments for this article from the SEIU, AFSCME and a White House spokesman. None of them responded.


A booklet published by SEIU during the 2008 election season called for “building a new American health care system,” in part by “organizing workers.” The publication argued for outcomes nearly identical to those later adopted in the Obamacare legislation.



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  • unicorn_lady1 2012/08/21 06:46:27
    Yes
    unicorn_lady1
    +1
    It is not about HEALTH CARE its about taking this countries wealth .. and spreading it.
  • TheTailor 2012/08/21 02:00:04
    Undecided
    TheTailor
    +1
    Probably.
  • Temlakos~POTL~PWCM~JLA~☆ 2012/08/21 00:09:48
    Yes
    Temlakos~POTL~PWCM~JLA~☆
    +2
    That's one of them. Or it's the PENultimate goal.

    The ultimate goal is to employ all the doctors by the State, and to decide who lives, and who dies.
  • goatman112003 2012/08/21 00:00:06
    Yes
    goatman112003
    +1
    Got to rack in the money somehow and stick the bill to the taxpayers or someone else.
  • topcat128 2012/08/20 22:53:46
    Yes
    topcat128
    +1
    Union members = Democratic votes for the most part. The whole idea of Obamacare and later on a government one payer system is to control you and me with health care. The government will decide( not your Hospital or Doctor), but the members of the Health Care Cost Control Boards (Death Panels). Some will get good care, others will get poor care and still others no care at all except a few meds. If this is the type health care you want in the future, please vote to re-elect Obama. Otherwise vote for Romney.
  • JCD aka "biz" 2012/08/20 22:24:09
    Undecided
    JCD aka "biz"
    +1
    Unionizing health care workers would be a great thing, but it is not "the ultimate goal of Obamacare".
    Free countries need strong unions. Not just Big Corporations.
  • Quietma... JCD aka... 2012/08/20 22:31:01
    Quietman   ~PWCM~JLA
    +2
    Free countries don't need unions at all!
    Is this the epitome of union greed? No Horses, But Detroit Water Department Employs 'Horseshoer' Union head says it's 'not possible' to eliminate positions from bloated city entity
    http://www.sodahead.com/unite...
  • JCD aka... Quietma... 2012/08/20 22:33:29
    JCD aka "biz"
    China does not want free unions. Nazi Germany had banned free unions.

    Free countries need free unions.
  • Quietma... JCD aka... 2012/08/20 22:35:59
    Quietman   ~PWCM~JLA
    Why don't you address the issue!
  • JCD aka... Quietma... 2012/08/21 09:54:06
    JCD aka "biz"
    You're the one who wrote that "free countries don't need unions at all". That's an important issue.
    But I agree that "featherbedding" can cause waste.
  • TheTailor JCD aka... 2012/08/21 02:09:25
    TheTailor
    So long as they don't run public workforces.
  • JCD aka... TheTailor 2012/08/21 09:55:32
    JCD aka "biz"
    Government should run public services. That's their responsibility. Unions are needed to provide the necessary "checks and balances".
  • TheTailor JCD aka... 2012/08/21 13:30:49 (edited)
    TheTailor
    +1
    Certainly not, governments job is to do as it's told by the people. When government can't run a program frugally with the public purse, it should be given to the private sector or be abandoned. Public sector unions can only be had if they are limited to negotiating wages, not benefits. It's been estimated that public sector union members earn twice what the taxpayers who pay them earn, FDR predicted this and decried the thought of public sector unions.

    It's only a matter of time before they are defanged, their power stripped to only negotiating over wages. It's a matter of economics in my opinion.

    Oh and by the way if you are trolling, I won't bite, I'll block.

    http://www.nytimes.com/roomfo...
  • JCD aka... TheTailor 2012/08/21 16:34:13
    JCD aka "biz"
    Isn't "negotiating over wages" part of the collective bargaining process?
  • TheTailor JCD aka... 2012/08/21 17:48:07
    TheTailor
    It is, and should be the extent of public sector unionization. Any further involvement invites corruption of elected officials by union bosses, resulting in behind the scene passage of pro union law.
  • TheTailor JCD aka... 2012/08/21 02:08:42
    TheTailor
    +1
    Even FDR decried public sector unions.
  • No nonsense NanC...don't BS... 2012/08/20 22:19:03
    Yes
    No nonsense NanC...don't BS me!
    +1
    Yes, I think that is one of the goals; that along with a quota system for diversity
    in the workforce. That was reported before there was even a vote on the ACA in congress. The ultimate goal is national health care.....replacing the need
    for medicare and eliminating insurance companies, I think. That takes care of his union
    people and minorities......both Democrat and HIS voting blocks
  • NoBama Man 2012/08/20 22:15:38
    Yes
    NoBama Man
    +1
    This was the plan form the beginning..

    So why this sudden obsession with the unions to unionize non-union workplaces, to pass nationalized healthcare reform, and amnesty for illegal migrant workers ?
    It's actually pretty obvious.

    Let's say the union movement succeeds in unionizing an additional 1/3 of all non-union workplaces in the next couple years, the Obama Administration passes amnesty reform, and that Nancy Pelosi is correct when she says that the Healthcare bill which just passed produces "4 million new jobs".

    A little quick Liberal math here for all of us uneducated fear mongers full of hate who actually manage to balance a check book every month...we'll do it with "simple addition"...

    4 million newly unionized healthcare workers from newly created healthcare jobs...

    + at least 15 million million healthcare workers who are currently NOT unionized...

    + lets say conservatively 2 million newly unionized workers after the "free choice act" (otherwise known as 'card check') is enacted...

    + another 15 million illegal immigrants after amnesty passes...

    = over 36 million new votes for the "Progressive Agenda".

    I guarantee that no union healthcare worker will vote their job away by voting for any candidate dedicated to repealling healthcare reform...

    The unions will ...

















    This was the plan form the beginning..

    So why this sudden obsession with the unions to unionize non-union workplaces, to pass nationalized healthcare reform, and amnesty for illegal migrant workers ?
    It's actually pretty obvious.

    Let's say the union movement succeeds in unionizing an additional 1/3 of all non-union workplaces in the next couple years, the Obama Administration passes amnesty reform, and that Nancy Pelosi is correct when she says that the Healthcare bill which just passed produces "4 million new jobs".

    A little quick Liberal math here for all of us uneducated fear mongers full of hate who actually manage to balance a check book every month...we'll do it with "simple addition"...

    4 million newly unionized healthcare workers from newly created healthcare jobs...

    + at least 15 million million healthcare workers who are currently NOT unionized...

    + lets say conservatively 2 million newly unionized workers after the "free choice act" (otherwise known as 'card check') is enacted...

    + another 15 million illegal immigrants after amnesty passes...

    = over 36 million new votes for the "Progressive Agenda".

    I guarantee that no union healthcare worker will vote their job away by voting for any candidate dedicated to repealling healthcare reform...

    The unions will "own" at least 90% of all unionized worker votes, strictly out of fear, after the union bosses "suggest what their ballot should look like"...

    While the Progressive, Liberal, Socialist, Commicrats will have the "love" of the immigrant workers vote because they made them all citizens overnight.

    Then add in all the "educated" college students, who have been taught the Liberal agenda since kindergarten and have already helped elect this administration into power....

    Stir gently, and let simmer...
    And VIOLA...

    You have an enormous, over 36 million person voting block which will be almost impossible to overcome in any election in the future.

    I contend that this is why everything is a "CRISIS". This administration must pass as much of this agenda as possible BEFORE the mid-term elections of 2010,
    because they knew they would not have the majority after November.

    This was their 2 year window to....'fundamentally change America'

    This is an excerpt from the article...'The Color Purple'....give it a read...
    It will make your eyes bleed......PURPLE..
    http://allrightiethen.blogspo...
    (more)
  • NoBama Man NoBama Man 2012/08/20 22:27:51
    NoBama Man
    +1
    If this isn't about BIG MONEY and POWER...

    Then why did these SAME groups work so hard to smugly lobby themselves exempt....

    obamacare
  • texasred 2012/08/20 21:47:20
    Yes
    texasred
    +2
    There are so many progressive plans that are under radar right now that it's unbelievable. They've been waiting for the right time and the right president. They have the right president, but they may have just blown it on the timing. Still too many of us hard-working boomers out there that can see what is happening.

    Another good book: Fool Me Twice: Obama's Shocking Plans for the Next Four Years Exposed [Hardcover] by Aaron Klein
    http://www.amazon.com/Fool-Me...
  • DavE 2012/08/20 21:45:32
    Yes
    DavE
    +2
    That is just one of the goals of Obamacare.

    The ultimate goal is to have a full blown Socialist health care scheme where the Socialist government controls all aspects of the medical field and rations health care to individuals as it sees fit. We will all get less quality and quantity in our health care, unless we are Socialist leaders or important supporters.

    Obama socialist medicine
  • Tasine 2012/08/20 21:40:27
    Undecided
    Tasine
    +3
    Could be a sideline goal, but I believe the real goal is to destroy the finest health care industry in the world, then Obamacare will flop, leaving all of us without healthcare, bankrupt; and his hope is then he can fully institute Socialism/Communism after which he will hand us over to the U.N. for disposal of all our assets OR remain in office as KING.
  • j2 2012/08/20 21:39:41
    No
    j2
    +3
    The ultimate goal was to significantly raise taxes on just about everybody.
  • RJ~PWCM~JLA 2012/08/20 21:31:22
    Yes
    RJ~PWCM~JLA
    +3
    Makes sense. 0bama gave GM - and tens of billions of taxpayer dollars - to the unions in order to "save" it.

    Of course he would attempt to turn over the health care industry to the unions. It's in his DNA.
  • Always Right 2012/08/20 21:28:45
    Yes
    Always Right
    +2
    The democrat party needs more unions and union support to win the election.
  • maggiemay 2012/08/20 21:19:29
    Yes
    maggiemay
    +5
    Of course. That has always been the intent.
  • Kat 2012/08/20 21:07:05
    Undecided
    Kat
    +3
    Hope not

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