Is the Supreme Court's delay in healthcare decision a good sign for Obama?
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Seems to me that if it was a slam dunk unconstitutionality, the decision would have been forthcoming right away.
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Mel the Witch POTL PWCM~JLA 2012/06/21 22:26:43No



















!. Obama supporters are getting exclusions - this will become another lawsuit that will delay the implementation of forcing some to pay, others to slide by.
2. There are so many people on welfare that won't pay the forced cost. The system Obama has tried to implement ( and no one read) will be bankrupt in this economy.
I am a beliver in reform of the HCS. It would be great to have affordable access for people, but this Obamacare is not the answer.
Published October 08, 2010
FoxNews.com
McDonalds got a break Thursday -- as did the 351,000 members of the United Federation of Teachers -- when the federal government gave waivers to high-profile companies and organizations letting them opt out of a key mandate in the new health care law.
The one-year waiver to 30 employers, insurers and union plans, covers about 1 million people and allows the groups to maintain minimal coverage below the new law's standards.
Administration officials defend the move as a means to protect lower wage workers wanting coverage. It makes sure a new class of of uninsured Americans is not created before other options are available.
"The waivers are about ensuring and protecting the coverage that people have until there are better options available to them in 2014," said White House spokesman Robert Gibbs. "This is about implementing a bill correctly. This is about ensuring ... we don't put them at the mercy of health insurance companies."
Among those getting the out are several fast-food restaurants, small manufacturing and construction businesses, some farm workers and the New York City school teachers, whose union supported the health care law but also provides supplemental...
Published October 08, 2010
FoxNews.com
McDonalds got a break Thursday -- as did the 351,000 members of the United Federation of Teachers -- when the federal government gave waivers to high-profile companies and organizations letting them opt out of a key mandate in the new health care law.
The one-year waiver to 30 employers, insurers and union plans, covers about 1 million people and allows the groups to maintain minimal coverage below the new law's standards.
Administration officials defend the move as a means to protect lower wage workers wanting coverage. It makes sure a new class of of uninsured Americans is not created before other options are available.
"The waivers are about ensuring and protecting the coverage that people have until there are better options available to them in 2014," said White House spokesman Robert Gibbs. "This is about implementing a bill correctly. This is about ensuring ... we don't put them at the mercy of health insurance companies."
Among those getting the out are several fast-food restaurants, small manufacturing and construction businesses, some farm workers and the New York City school teachers, whose union supported the health care law but also provides supplemental insurance to its members.
Michael Mulgrew, president of the United Federation of Teachers, said his union wants to weight whether it would be too costly to cover its new members.
"We have 13,000 new members because of federal legislation, and rather than automatically raising payments to providers, have asked for a waiver while we see if we have additional costs that would make such payments necessary," he said.
Unions were among the major supporters of the president's push for health care reform. But some experts say less than a month before the Nov. 2 midterm election, the move signals a political concern.
"Democrats are going to have a hard enough time getting their candidates elected to the House and having a bunch of hamburger jockeys losing their health insurance is certainly not a way to endear yourself to the populous," said Joe Antos of the American Enterprise Institute.
Although the waivers are to last one year, groups can apply to extend them until 2014. Critics note that the 30 groups permitted the out are well-organized, and predict many more organizations will seek waivers.
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The system worked fine - the problem of no insurance was real and was the only thing that actually needed to be addressed. Some of the other, what I called 'good things' could have been addressed by simple measures - pre-existing conditions for one: simple nation wide pools - the number is so small (compared to the population) that all the rhetoric was ridiculous.
I can go on but this is looking book like - suffice it to say, this bill - all 2700 pages of it, is just bad and intrusive and already has caused more problems than it has solved.
Look at it this way - if people are obese, diabetic and so on; they will die early and cost less (sorry, it sounds callus but it is true) Only the long livers cost money, why do you think Medicare is cutting dialysis for some patients over 75 as well as other care options - they want them to hurry up and die.
Why do you think Obamacare cut 500 billion from Medicare and put it towards the 'costs' of Obamacare?
There are no easy answers and we should never promote control of how people chose to live. Europe HC systems were doomed to failure from the very beginning - there is simply no way to manage universal health care without controlling peoples lives completely AND that is a terrible thing to even contemplate.
Later friend, Have a great evening
Good.
One thing Americans can't tolerate is a loser . . . and that decision against ObamaCare is going to paint him as such.
After that, it's going to go downhill.
Representatives up for re-election are already turning down the DNC convention invitations.
Next, they won't want to be seen campaigning with him.
Of course, I could just be wishful thinking.