Is the "Stand Your Ground Law" a Good Law or a Bad Law?

by Manuel Posted 2012/03/27 17:49:19

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	It is a good law and here's why.	113 votes	63%
	It is a bad law and here's why.	67 votes	37%

I wrote this post to show what I think is the pros and cons of this law...I point out things that went on in this Martin and Zimmerman case and made conclusions basis on everything so far that has been revealed...So read it and leave your answers...on what it's a good or bad law..
No
matter what the right-wing legal gun owners conservatives try to swing it
and skew the facts...Zimmerman got out of his car and approached Trayvon
Martin after authorities told him not to, boom ! That should have closed the case right there and booked Zimmerman for murder...

Zimmerman had no right to do that. That along makes him the aggressor.....and Zimmerman's story keeps
changing...

and I bet that the original police report is
completely different and now altered to fit Zimmerman's new testimony being his father is some kind of Judge.

This nonsense happen to me in my early 20's... in court the police claims
on me were lies...Thank God I had a copy of the original report and showed it to
the Judge - and I doubt if the police gave a copy of original police
report to this teen's family that night -....in my case because I had that
original report which was totally different from their report... she dismissed the case...and slammed the cops with
fines...
you guys who defend Zimmerman got to be kidding... The stand your ground
law makes it easy under the right conditions for anyone to kill anybody
and claim self defense....if this law wasn't around...Zimmerman would
have never got of of his car...period!...
We can thank J. Bush for giving
evil Floridians a license to kill...this law makes open season on
anybody...it's a dangerous and ridiculous LAW!...Because it now appears in Florida you can kill anyone under the right conditions and circumstances and claim self defense... This is what Zimmerman mostly likely took a vantage of...
So?...is it time for Florida to get rid of this law?...

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Q 2012/03/27 18:35:45 (edited)

It is a bad law and here's why.

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It being used as a defense by Zimmerman makes me have my doubts about it. We had an incident locally where a drunk young man was shot through the door after knocking loudly on his neighbors door at three am by mistake, the shooter used the new Castle law as a defense and was never charged.
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RobHom to mich52 2012/03/29 13:33:26

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Oh, please....owning and wearing a hoodie is meaningless. What happened in Sanford was "racially motivated"....

If anything was going to happen to you...it would have been a "pick-pocketing" or a mugging because you were a tourist suspected of carrying cash in your wallet.....

Zimmerman is a racist....so it could have been a black person in a swimming suit and flip flops....and the same thing would have happened.

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mich52 to RobHom 2012/03/29 13:58:11

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No chit.. That's the whole point Einstein..

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RobHom to mich52 2012/03/30 00:37:26

Really...your post sounded more like you were some whiny milquetoast who managed to escape central Florida without blood on your "hoodies"..... and you found that really "awesome"......

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RobHom to Manuel 2012/03/29 13:25:15

Wrong....the law has been on the books for 7 years now...and it hasn't happened yet.

Just so you know....there is little difference between the previous self defense law and the one I cited above. The only real difference is that the person being attacked no longer has a duty to retreat. That's it.

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Manuel to RobHom 2012/04/02 01:54:36

it's a law that's gonna allow open season on black teens` with hoodies... I am mocking this system because people like Zimmerman...and we know there are thousands...will think they are right in shooting some one because even though they started it and the other people got violent with them they have the right to stand their ground...you and I know that's not right...but you got thousands out there that think otherwise...and will think their shooting is justified in similar situations.

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RobHom to Manuel 2012/04/04 02:57:38

Hasn't happened yet.... But I am pretty sure that there will be a lot of people who will think twice before pulling out a gun.... If I carried ...I would consider the gun to be the weapon of absolute last resort. Once its out and in motion...you can't peel time back and change what happened.

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DiViews2013 2012/03/27 19:12:03

It is a bad law and here's why.

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It is being used as a license to kill, by far too many. There are too many cowards in the world for such a free get out of jail law of this kind.

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RobHom to DiViews... 2012/03/29 13:34:54

Do some research and you will find that your statement is very wrong.... Anyone who thinks its a "license to kill" and is above the age of 12...probably still believes in the tooth fairy!

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DiViews... to RobHom 2012/03/29 18:44:13

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Then the Sandford Police and city prosecutors are true believers. It is not as if you can make this stuff up. You go after somebody without authority and engage them in an assault and then you cry self defense? "SYG" does not apply in this situation, but they are using it as a crutch. Now do not become ugly or insulting with you comments. You are on thin ice here with that tooth fairy BS.

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RobHom to DiViews... 2012/03/30 00:45:29

No, they are not true believers. What you people are seeming to drastically miss, is the fact that the lead investigator wanted Zimmerman charged...and the prosecutor "wimped out"....supposedly for lack of evidence....and lo and behold the next thing we find out...is Zimmie's daddy is a retired magistrate/judge in the next county, who has managed to use his political influence to quash 3 prior warrants on his precious little miscreant... Daddy has already written a letter to the Orlando Sentinel (the major paper in the area) proclaiming his precious son's "innocence".....

I have been saying all along that the law does not apply in this case...oh duh, do y'all actually bother to read what anyone says? What part of what I have said is so confusing to you people??

No, I am not on thin ice...people who think or believe that the SYG law is a "license to kill"...are the ones treading on thin ice. The law was not written for that purpose and it is not used in that fashion....and the state does not let it be a license to kill.

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DiViews... to RobHom 2012/03/30 19:47:25

You are a pompous jackass. Your ignorance is overwhelmingly insufferable and I will not longer indulge your archaic irrational rantings. I warned you, "you are on thin ice with me" and you further insult my intelligence with repetition of my original post. Just because you did not understand me initially. You can go fly a kite. And who the hell are "you people", you decrepit son of a witch. You are responding with information that become available after this post. Jackass! I bid you farewell and adieu.

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RobHom to RobHom 2012/03/31 02:18:55

In case you read this... DiViews....YOU PEOPLE are the morons of the planet who leap to conclusions without a wit of basis in fact... But what's even sadder is that you aren't bright enough to understand that I was agreeing with you. Oh. I see...you're one of "those people" who is inordinately sensitive to the words "you people"...as if it were a racial comment... Grown a set, get some thick skin.... I am not a racist...

I understood you, you failed to understand what I said... Sorry for you and I'm happy I'm not you or related to you... You're a sad excuse for a person. If you had a valid question as to what I meant, then you should have asked...but instead, you chose to show your ass... Wow, I'm like totally "UNIMPRESSED"!

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All American 2012/03/27 18:48:57

It is a good law and here's why.

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It saved Zimmerman's life.

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Q to All Ame... 2012/03/27 19:25:39

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Zimmerman was what a 220lb adult while the 14 year old victim weighed 140 lbs and was armed with skittles and an iced tea...please!

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All Ame... to Q 2012/03/27 19:40:04

Do you realize how dangerous skittles can be?

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Q to All Ame... 2012/03/27 19:51:07

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I suspect you've watched the Jason Bourne movies one time too many. I'll admit he was a bad-ass with a rolled up magazine and a bic pen....but skittles?

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All Ame... to Q 2012/03/27 21:04:16

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No one but Zimmerman knows what really happened. I'll reserve judgment until more facts come out.

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Builder to All Ame... 2012/04/01 18:51:27

Well over time they can give you diabetes, however I do believe you are joking!

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All Ame... to Builder 2012/04/01 22:36:25

Skittle plus hoodie equals trouble.

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Herbtheman to Q 2012/03/28 03:17:03

he was 17 not 14

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Q to Herbtheman 2012/03/28 03:42:01

Whoops I stand corrected, I could have sworn I read that he was only fourteen. My bad.

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Builder to Herbtheman 2012/04/01 18:55:39

He was 145 lbs also so your point is? I am 78 yrs and I don't think a 145 lbs person even if he is Bruce Lee type could get me on the ground. I would catch him sooner or later and my weigh would keep him down! At 220 lbs he didn't need to shoot the kid!

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Manuel to All Ame... 2012/03/28 02:39:30

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baloney....Zimmerman is a murder.....and a racist.... If this law didn't exist ..Zimmerman would have never got out of his car....and this kid would have made it home...

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All Ame... to Manuel 2012/03/28 02:48:06

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You don't know squat, Manuel. You're just following MSNBC's lead. You don't have to believe everything they say, you're suppose to be a living, breathing and thinking individual, so think and don't blindly follow those poopmeisters.

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Manuel to All Ame... 2012/03/28 06:35:57 (edited)

I don't even watch MSNBC dude...I read everything on S.H. and if the STAND YOUR GROUND LAW didn't exist...Zimmerman would have not got out of his car...even if he had a gun...and aside from that, because of what happened proves this law has a deadly flaw in it...if you can't see that All Ame...then you don't know SQUAT...

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All Ame... to Manuel 2012/03/28 10:25:54

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You don't know what Zimmerman would have done. He's one of those overzealous loose cannons who's unpredictable. The left is trying to use this incident to attack laws they don't like. The stand your ground law most likely isn't applicable here even though Zimmerman is trying to use it.

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RobHom to All Ame... 2012/03/29 13:38:18

It is not applicable, because Zimmerman was the aggressor, and did so without an iota of authority. He even defied the instructions of the police to "back off". The kid was walking down the street. His only "crime" where Zimmerman was concerned...was that Martin was "BLACK"!

Zimmerman would have done the same damn thing in any event.

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All Ame... to RobHom 2012/03/29 14:33:42

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He was a loose canon for sure, and unpredictable.

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RobHom to All Ame... 2012/03/30 00:46:20

Without a doubt...his previous 46 calls to the cops are significant proof of that.

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All Ame... to RobHom 2012/03/30 01:11:25

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I think he was a dangerous fellow, one that probably wouldn't pass a psychological profile to become a real policeman. This guy seem to like authority too much.

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RobHom to All Ame... 2012/03/30 01:21:15

I think you are probably right...and if indicted or charged I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if he plays the "insanity plea"....

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All Ame... to RobHom 2012/03/30 01:24:26

He'll do anything to get out of it.

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RobHom to All Ame... 2012/03/30 01:36:13

He's going to have to work awfully hard for it....but he won't get out of it. The pressure for hyper intense scrutiny is too high, and the feds are involved....

Right about now...about the only way I can see him getting out of it is to play russian roulette with an automatic...

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All Ame... to RobHom 2012/03/30 02:32:30

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He'll end up paying a price, but it should be proportional to the crime.

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RobHom to All Ame... 2012/03/30 02:40:01

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True that!

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Builder to RobHom 2012/04/01 19:05:45

Say what you will but he still hasn't been arrested and there is plenty of reasons to arrest him.

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Builder to All Ame... 2012/04/01 19:03:13

Sometimes I wonder about All American, Bob Din and Soundstorm. Do they really believe the crap that they spew or are they just playing devil advocate. I mean what is it about stalking a person engaging that person and then killing them that they don't understand. . As I said above it was a black kid so I don't think they put much value to his life. When it happens closer to home for them I think they would see things different. I guess it all depend on who you are!

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RobHom to Manuel 2012/03/29 13:35:43

Manny....the law had nothing to do with him getting out of his car.....

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Q 2012/03/27 18:35:45 (edited)

It is a bad law and here's why.

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It being used as a defense by Zimmerman makes me have my doubts about it. We had an incident locally where a drunk young man was shot through the door after knocking loudly on his neighbors door at three am by mistake, the shooter used the new Castle law as a defense and was never charged.

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Manuel to Q 2012/03/28 02:41:45

that's outrageous...

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