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Is the separation of church and state under attack in the USA?

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How
Many Americans Misunderstand the Separation of Church and State



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Josh Sager – August 2012



www.sarcasticliberal.blogspot.com



Church and State



The United States is a purely secular country and was
founded on the ideal that government should be completely separated from any
religious sect. The term “separation of church and state”—a quote from Thomas
Jefferson—is the most common label for the freedom of religion guaranteed by
the 1st Amendment of the constitution. Unfortunately, many modern
citizens and elected officials have begun to twist the ideal of the 1st
Amendment to facilitate religious discrimination and the imposition of
religious laws over non-believers.



The first sentence of the 1st Amendment
reads as such:



Congress shall make no law respecting an
establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;



-- 1st Amendment of the Constitution—



The 1st
Amendment establishes a double-edged separation of church and state; one side
of this separation prevents religion from taking control over the government,
while the other side prevents government from interfering with religious
expression.



The first edge of the
separation of church and state prevents the state from establishing a religion.
No legislation, either on the federal or state level, is constitutionally
allowed to sanction or officially enforce a religious ideology; any law based
upon a religious doctrine (ex. Muslim Sharia laws) is considered a violation of
this amendment. In addition to preventing religious laws from being enacted,
this separation prevents and official endorsement of a religion by the state
(ex. mandating public prayer), and prevents the establishment of a state
religion/church.



The second edge of the
separation of church and state ensures that the government cannot interfere
with personal religious practices. Except in extreme cases (ex. human
sacrifice), the government is barred from stopping of obstructing religious
expression by individuals.



In modern politics,
several right wing factions have begun to attack the very idea of the
separation of church and state. Numerous political groups and politicians (ex.
Rick Santorum) have begun to actively deny that this separation exists, and
openly seek to establish religious laws. Unfortunately, three fundamental
misunderstandings surrounding the separation of church and state have aided
these individuals in their quest to erode the 1st Amendment and
impose their religious doctrines over secular society:



The separation of church and state does not
prevent the government from stopping people from imposing their religion on
others



The right to free
exercise of religion is a personal right, and you have no constitutional right
to impose your religion over anybody else. The government is not only allowed,
but obligated, to step in and prevent an individual or organization from
violating the religious practices of another. Just as everybody has the right
to practice their religion, they also have the right not to be interfered with
by other religions.



Many religious
Americans are upset when their attempts to impose their religious practices
over others are thwarted-they claim that their religious overreach is actually
a religious practice and see any attempt to protect society from their religion
to be an attack on religious liberty.



In the last several
years, there have been large debates over the rights of homosexuals to marry,
and the right of employers to refuse to cover contraception; both of these
issues are examples of religious individuals attempting to impose their
religion on society. If an employer’s religious beliefs dictate that they
should not take contraception, they may choose not to take contraception, but
they may not refuse to offer contraception in their employees’ insurance plans.
If an individual believes that homosexuality is a sin and that gay marriage
immoral, they are perfectly within their rights not to be gay and not to marry
somebody of the same sex; however, they have no right to refuse others of the
right to be gay or get married.



Religious beliefs do not exempt the religious
from having to comply with civil laws



Even with the 1st
Amendment separation of church and state, an individual’s religious beliefs do
not supersede the obligation to follow civil laws. Any exercise of religious
beliefs that violates secular laws or endangers other citizens is not protected
under the aegis of religious freedom.



Functionally speaking,
this limitation on religious expression prevents people from shielding
anti-social behavior by claiming that it is protected by religious freedom. For
example: despite the fact that the bible actively promotes the execution of
gays, rape, slavery, human sacrifice and genocide, these anti-social behaviors
are not protected religious practices.



In modern politics,
many politicians have begun attempting to carve religious exemptions into the
civil law and allow religious individuals to have their own set of laws. The
most pervasive examples of these exemptions are the attempts to insert
conscience clauses into state medical laws. Numerous states have passed, or
tried to pass, laws which would allow Christian doctors to refuse contraception
or abortion services, even if this would risk the life of the mother.



Put plainly, the recent
attempts to allow religious Americans to live under a different set of rules
than secular Americans are wrong. You must follow the civil laws, regardless of
whether or not they conflict with personal religious convictions. If you are a
doctor who does not want to perform abortions, you have no right to take a job
which would put you into the situation where you must perform an abortion to protect
the mother, but then refuse to do your job—you can still be a doctor, but not
one that may be required to perform an abortion (ex. and anesthesiologist).
Amish individuals have the right to their beliefs, but they have no right to
sue for discrimination when they are hired as a bus driver yet refuse to drive
a bus because of their religion



Freedom of religion is also the freedom from
religion



Just as the separation
of church and state protects the right of individuals to practice their
religion, it also protects the right of an individual to practice no religion.
Atheism is not a religion, but it is accorded the same legal rights of any
religious group. The right to not believe in god is protected and any attempt
to infringe upon this right should be fought with the same level of intensity
as any other type of religious bigotry.



Any attempt to impose
institutional prayer or inscribe the idea of a god upon the public, regardless
of the religion, is a violation of the separation of church and state. Those
who argue that they can mandate prayer because they don’t specify a religion
which must be practiced (ex. official school prayer), are simply wrong and must
be fought.



The most extreme
examples of bigotry against atheists can be found in cases of custody battles
where the atheist parent loses custody of their children. In several instances
(ex. Craig Scarbury of Illinois), judges have used atheism as a justification
of removing custody of children from parents during divorce preceding—the
religious parent is given custody over the child, regardless of the other
factors, based entirely upon their religion. This situation is analogous to a
Jewish parent losing custody because the judge of the case supports the
Christian parent, yet there is comparably little outcry when the victim of this
discrimination is an atheist.



Conclusion



Religion



A great many Americans
misunderstand the idea of the separation of church and state. The
misunderstandings surrounding this separation have opened the door to religious
zealots imposing their religion over civil society. Religion is not a shield
which allows individuals to ignore the law, nor is it a protected religious
practice for an individual to impose their religion over others. Put plainly,
until a vast majority of Americans understand the separation of church and
state better, we will continue to see politicians attempt to perform end-runs
around the 1st Amendment.

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  • joshua.sager.9 2012/08/17 21:29:00
    Yes - Religious individuals have been attempting to control American policy
    joshua.sager.9
    +3
    As I wrote the question and attached article, I will keep this brief: Christian fundamentalism is dangerous and presents an organized movement with the sole goal of controlling public policy.

    It is my hope that people will recognize the attacks on the 1st Amendment, and that most people will vote for the first option (and none will vote for the 3rd or 4th).

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  • MayLin 2012/09/25 23:49:06
    Yes - Religious individuals have been attempting to control American policy
    MayLin
  • PoliticalSanity 2012/08/17 22:02:09
    Yes - Religious individuals have been attempting to control American policy
    PoliticalSanity
    +1
    "The United States is a purely secular country and was
    founded on the ideal that government should be completely separated from any
    religious sect."

    I support this subject but do want to point out that the country was unmistakably Christian. It was the GOVERNMENT, not the country that was intended to be at least neutral, if not secular.
  • joshua.... Politic... 2012/09/26 02:49:24
    joshua.sager.9
    While it is true that the separation of church and state works on the government, not the culture, it ultimately is irrelevant and allows the religious to get a foot in the door of our government.
  • JMCC 2012/08/17 21:31:15
    The separation of church and state is merely a liberal fiction
    JMCC
    +1
    It is impossible to separate religion and state as the right to religious freedom is in and of it's own an interference.

    Equally many religious beliefs are in and of themselves political, especially when it comes to ideologies that deal with property wealth and marriage (or polygamy).
  • gregory... JMCC 2012/08/17 21:37:01
    gregory.ditzler
    +1
    Then the solution is state sanctioned atheism isn't it?
  • JMCC gregory... 2012/08/17 21:40:12
    JMCC
    +1
    Not necessarily - the house of lords in the UK includes bishops in government automatically.

    Although this is antiquated practice and skewed to the church of England, I believe that it could be reviewed and modified in such a way as to be brought to reflect modern society.
  • joshua.... JMCC 2012/08/17 22:05:09
    joshua.sager.9
    +2
    The founders specifically inserted the separation of church and state into the constitution because they wanted to avoid a situation similar to that of the Anglican Church and the government of England.

    Any religious control over society inevitably leads to repression of non-believers (there is no compromise if one thinks that they follow the word of god), and an eventual degradation of democracy--what is the point of voting if the interpretations of a religious text simply tell you how to govern.

    Atheism should control the state and the sciences, but everybody should have the right to practice their religion. Let secular logic control society's laws, and let the churches control the personal practices of their members.
  • JMCC joshua.... 2012/08/17 22:10:03
    JMCC
    I don't mean that religion should have control over government, even in the current system in the UK it should be apparent that it is not. Rather, that religious conscience can be applied to political debate - even if it means having just one representative from each major faith in the upper house.
  • MayLin joshua.... 2012/09/25 23:56:47
    MayLin
    I think humanism should control the state, atheism as a state dogma at least in the former Soviet empire was every bit as oppressive as regular religions were.
  • joshua.... MayLin 2012/09/26 02:51:50
    joshua.sager.9
    +1
    Atheism should control the government (or rather, the government should function in an atheist manner), but everybody should be accorded their rights to practice their religion when not acting as a person of the state--essentially, everybody has a right to their private religion, but they must check these beliefs at the door when they decide to make policy or exercise governmental authority.
  • MayLin joshua.... 2012/09/26 02:55:43
    MayLin
    Humanism should control the state.
  • Muskoka JMCC 2012/08/17 21:44:17 (edited)
    Muskoka
    +2
    Marriage has nothing what so ever to do with religion and never has. There is no reason for it to be either.
  • JMCC Muskoka 2012/08/17 21:45:39
    JMCC
    +1
    Maybe not the Christian religion, but there are many others where it does...
  • Muskoka JMCC 2012/08/18 00:14:31
    Muskoka
    I still disagree, religion does not have to be mixed into legal issues.
  • JMCC Muskoka 2012/08/18 00:16:08
    JMCC
    Yet it was - right to religious freedom...

    It would have to be repealed and that is something I don't believe will happen anytime soon...
  • Muskoka JMCC 2012/08/18 01:01:26
    Muskoka
    The right to religious freedom is to worship nothing more.
  • JMCC Muskoka 2012/08/18 01:04:57
    JMCC
    +1
    Not in the UK, as Sikhs do not have to wear a crash helmet and are permitted to carry a ceremonial blade.
  • joshua.... JMCC 2012/08/18 01:48:09
    joshua.sager.9
    +1
    This article/poll is based solely upon US law and there is no such exemption.
  • Muskoka JMCC 2012/08/18 01:58:08
    Muskoka
    No exemptions in Canada and the ceremonial blades are not allowed on Aircraft.
  • History... JMCC 2012/09/25 23:37:46
    HistoryBuff782
    If you think bringing religion into government is a good idea, just look at the middle east.
  • JMCC History... 2012/09/25 23:42:58
    JMCC
    +1
    I didn't say that, I said that it is impossible to separate them,

    Especially when policies or decisions are being made or taken on moral issues.
  • History... JMCC 2012/09/25 23:45:00
    HistoryBuff782
    The government shouldn't (for the most part), have any role on 'moral' issues. People should be free to live their lives the way they see fit, so long as it doesn't harm anyone else.
  • JMCC History... 2012/09/25 23:46:16
    JMCC
    I agree yet that does not change the reality of the current situation... ;)
  • History... JMCC 2012/09/26 00:09:59
    HistoryBuff782
    And what exactly is the current situation?
  • JMCC History... 2012/09/26 00:19:42
    JMCC
    The reality is that people are informed by their religious educations. Whenever we make any sort of decision we tend to base it on moral values that appertain to that.
  • History... JMCC 2012/09/26 00:28:00
    HistoryBuff782
    Not everyone is informed by religious education. Do you mean people that attend religious schools? Or just ones that are brought up religiously?
  • JMCC History... 2012/09/26 00:29:12
    JMCC
    Both.
  • History... JMCC 2012/09/26 00:33:54
    HistoryBuff782
    Well, not everyone is brought up religiously. A huge chunk of the country isn't, and that number is actually rising. I stick to what I said before, the government shouldn't have any role in 'moral' matters.
  • JMCC History... 2012/09/26 00:35:41
    JMCC
    Aren't crimes against the person immoral?
  • History... JMCC 2012/09/26 00:37:43
    HistoryBuff782
    Again, what exactly do you mean? Murder, rape, etc.?

    You don't need religion to tell you that is wrong. It's common sense.
  • JMCC History... 2012/09/26 00:39:35
    JMCC
    I am afraid that is not the case - especially when you look at other cultures.
  • History... JMCC 2012/09/26 00:40:55
    HistoryBuff782
    Well, we're not the middle east. We're a bit more stable here, if you know what I mean.

    You don't see atheists/non religious people going around murdering people just because they don't have a bible to tell them it's wrong.
  • JMCC History... 2012/09/26 00:42:55
    JMCC
    I don't mean just the middle east. European Culture, Eskimo Culture even the very civilised pre western Japanese culture - all had very different moral values.
  • History... JMCC 2012/09/26 00:47:13
    HistoryBuff782
    Okay..I still don't see why that means religion belongs in government at all. It's the 21st century, and the only place I see what you say being a problem is the middle east. And their religion says that it's alright to kill "infidels".

    The middle east used to being the center of science and knowledge in the ancient world, until religion came along.
  • JMCC History... 2012/09/26 00:55:20
    JMCC
    Religion used to fill all sorts of roles - government and an explanation for the universe etc

    Almost like a precursor to the Encyclopedia...
  • History... JMCC 2012/09/26 01:00:48
    HistoryBuff782
    Yes, religion used to play all sorts of roles-

    Such as the Holy Roman empire, saying the earth is falt, burning "witches" and early astronomers/scientists at the stake, launching genocidal crusades against others, chopping off someone's arm for being left handed, etc.

    It's 2012. Religion has no place in modern society.
  • JMCC History... 2012/09/26 01:09:48
    JMCC
    Indeed the Romans were a decadent and morally corrupt people and the fall of their empire was inevitable because of it.

    I am a scientist and I find myself torn here, for in many ways I agree with you when i see how man has twisted a basically sound theology into such insanity.

    Equally I understand the peace and symbiotic way people lived together with their environment under Druidic Paganism such as we had in Cornwall.

    So perhaps we could do without organised Religion, but not without spirituality. After all haven't people just replaced God with money and material possessions and might this shift have something to do with the problems we face today?
  • Politic... History... 2012/09/26 13:08:13 (edited)
    PoliticalSanity
    +1
    And how the Shiites and Sunnis, all Muslims, want to kill each other over control of each country. Absolute intolerance comes from explicitly allowing religion into government.
  • History... Politic... 2012/09/26 21:03:55
    HistoryBuff782
    Exactly. Finally someone who is rational on this site. :)
  • MayLin JMCC 2012/09/25 23:52:46
    MayLin
    +1
    good point, I find religion the first form of politics,
    the former Soviet Union listed the state religion of the US
    not as Christianity, but as Materialism.

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