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Is the Republican Party 'Woman Friendly'?

Chris D 2012/08/27 18:00:00
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The Democrats have the feminists. Plus, they have Hillary Clinton and Nancy Pelosi. But is one political party more "woman friendly" than the other? Republicans and conservatives in general tend to like to keep things traditional but does that mean they are not friendly to women? The latest CNN opinion poll show the GOP is in fact very woman friendly - what do you think?

CNN.COM reports:
Some claim the GOP is unfriendly to women. As a lifelong Republican, I know that assertion is baseless, says Senator Kay Bailey Hutchison
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  • Fef 2012/08/27 17:48:47
    Yes
    Fef
    +33
    The GOP represents the values and freedoms for everyone instead of individual special interest groups.
    "We The People"

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  • Bob P. ... GOP Poison 2013/04/12 21:48:01
    Bob P. Clarkson
    A very good simile. Wrong, but you still get credit, unless you stole it, then, shame on you.
  • Little Tina 2012/08/29 15:40:59
    Yes
    Little Tina
    +4
    Did you watch the Convention last night? There were a number of successful conservative women who spoke. The left would have you believe that the republican party is a bunch of old rich white men. Not true.
  • GOP Poison Little ... 2012/10/20 20:10:50
    GOP Poison
    Wonder how many of them had millionaire husbands.
  • George Zook 2012/08/29 15:32:52
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    George Zook
    +1
    as long as they don't report rapes, wear spikes, navigate staircases with grace, and don't want equal pay for equal work ... oh ... or use birth control they like women just fine
  • y so serious 2012/08/29 15:13:41
    Yes
    y so serious
    +1
    No of course not, what makes you say we're women friendly thats hogwash

    Sarah Palin  condalisa rice
  • DavidK 2012/08/29 14:01:22
    Yes
    DavidK
    All this poll will amount to is who's left and whos right......
  • MommyWoman 2012/08/29 12:11:31 (edited)
    No
    MommyWoman
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    I fail to see how a political group that legislates away the ability of women to make their own health related decisions can be labeled 'woman friendly'. As a victim of rape, domestic violence, health issues that were ameliorated by birth control pills, and I was a single mother for many years, many of the choices I made in the above situations would be denied me if the administration were to change this year. I have two daughters and do not want their choices stripped away by men who have no idea how the female body even works! Even the provision that says an employer may deny a woman certain health based upon the employer's choice is silly! Why should any woman have to go to her boss and beg them to allow her to have perhaps life-saving medical care? Health and medical issues are supposed to be protected by the HIPAA and bringing in an unqualified party violates that mandate.

    The fact that it is 2012 and birth control and women's rights are still political issues is despicable! What happened to the U.S. being one of the most, if not THE most, forward thinking country on this planet? We are traveling headlong into the same type of political climate as Iran, where women are concerned.

    No man has the right to determine what any woman can and cannot do to or with her body. Everyon...



    I fail to see how a political group that legislates away the ability of women to make their own health related decisions can be labeled 'woman friendly'. As a victim of rape, domestic violence, health issues that were ameliorated by birth control pills, and I was a single mother for many years, many of the choices I made in the above situations would be denied me if the administration were to change this year. I have two daughters and do not want their choices stripped away by men who have no idea how the female body even works! Even the provision that says an employer may deny a woman certain health based upon the employer's choice is silly! Why should any woman have to go to her boss and beg them to allow her to have perhaps life-saving medical care? Health and medical issues are supposed to be protected by the HIPAA and bringing in an unqualified party violates that mandate.

    The fact that it is 2012 and birth control and women's rights are still political issues is despicable! What happened to the U.S. being one of the most, if not THE most, forward thinking country on this planet? We are traveling headlong into the same type of political climate as Iran, where women are concerned.

    No man has the right to determine what any woman can and cannot do to or with her body. Everyone has free access to alcohol and tobacco and those two things are responsible for more deaths annually than abortions are, but no one is rushing to criminalize them!

    How can you force an unemployed, unmarried female to have a baby that is the product of rape or incest, without ensuring that the welfare of that girl and baby are taken care of?

    What if suddenly women were in charge and placed the same ridiculous regulations on men's access to Viagra and Cialis?
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  • John "By God" American 2012/08/29 11:57:33
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    John "By God" American
    What do you mean, "woman friendly"?
  • Bill 2012/08/29 10:25:12
    Yes
    Bill
    +1
    Is bob, people friendly?
  • ivegotloveinmypants 2012/08/29 09:59:41
    Yes
    ivegotloveinmypants
    +4
    Women seem to make the silly assumption that being against abortion makes you anti-woman.
    Why are Republicans against abortion: because many are religous, and it goes against their beliefs. What has this got to do with woman hating? Nothing. It merely encourages women to value human life.
  • IamCupc... ivegotl... 2012/08/29 11:52:14 (edited)
    IamCupcakeCrazy
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    "It merely encourages women to value human life." I do value human life, I value the life that is already born,the sentient woman.

    Forcing a woman against her will or ability to carry on a pregnancy to term is not my idea of valuing or respecting human life.

    Standing outside abortion clinics berating & emotionally manipulating women with misleading abortion signs is NOT valuing human life.

    Calling women who recieve abortions murderers & sl*ts is NOT respecting human life.

    Shaming women over abortions because of your own personal religious beliefs is NOT respecting human life.

    Shaming & berating women who have gone through with a abortion by telling them "keep your legs shut" is NOT respecting human life.

    Choosing a non-sentient embryo or fetus over a sentient woman is NOT respecting human life.

    No it is not encouragement at all, it is wanting force your own morality on others to satisfy your own Gods & own beliefs or wants in life.

    "What has this got to do with woman hating?" It is about the hatred and fear of women’s sexuality,it always has been & the fact they hate women are playing their precious God.
    Why do you think they $l*t shame women & try to deny women contraceptives & sex education & advice? why do you think they are trying to redifine rape?

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    "It merely encourages women to value human life." I do value human life, I value the life that is already born,the sentient woman.

    Forcing a woman against her will or ability to carry on a pregnancy to term is not my idea of valuing or respecting human life.

    Standing outside abortion clinics berating & emotionally manipulating women with misleading abortion signs is NOT valuing human life.

    Calling women who recieve abortions murderers & sl*ts is NOT respecting human life.

    Shaming women over abortions because of your own personal religious beliefs is NOT respecting human life.

    Shaming & berating women who have gone through with a abortion by telling them "keep your legs shut" is NOT respecting human life.

    Choosing a non-sentient embryo or fetus over a sentient woman is NOT respecting human life.

    No it is not encouragement at all, it is wanting force your own morality on others to satisfy your own Gods & own beliefs or wants in life.

    "What has this got to do with woman hating?" It is about the hatred and fear of women’s sexuality,it always has been & the fact they hate women are playing their precious God.
    Why do you think they $l*t shame women & try to deny women contraceptives & sex education & advice? why do you think they are trying to redifine rape?

    You really think this is about helping children & valuing life? 400,000 children are curently in the system,every year 1.5 million are homeless,more than a million go hungry every night, these figures say otherwise,plus they want to add another 1.5 million to these figures.
    Repuplicans even want to cut programes for the poor & disadvantaged children.

    Value life? Give me a fecking break, it is total BUII$hIT!
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  • ivegotl... IamCupc... 2012/08/29 12:02:03
    ivegotloveinmypants
    +1
    I did not say that any of the examples you mentioned were right. Secondly, I am an atheist. Third of all, what I did not say was that women who wanted abortions wre more than welcome to have them.
    You will find many women, and not all republicans who disagree with abortions.
  • IamCupc... ivegotl... 2012/08/29 12:57:20
    IamCupcakeCrazy
    +1
    Ofcourse I know there are many who are yes,that's their choice,their lives. But It is wrong to dictate what others choose to do with their bodies & lives,they have every right to be anti- abortion against themselves, but not for others.

    It would not be so different if I were to say to them "you have to get a abortion!" but of course I would never do that,it is great they want a child,in a ideal world all women would not even consider a termination,but we are not living in a ideal world are we.

    It is a personal choice to carry on with that pregnancy made only by the pregnant woman,it is none of my business at the end of the day,I do not have a right to tell them otherwise, vice verse they have no rights to tell a woman she must continue a pregnancy.
  • D D IamCupc... 2012/08/29 12:07:33
    D D
    +2
    Forcing a woman against her will or ability to carry on a pregnancy to term is not my idea of valuing or respecting human life. '

    My boyfriend tried every strategy to get me to abort. It is mostly women being talked into it. I soooo urge people to prevent the pregnancy in the first place!
  • IamCupc... D D 2012/08/29 14:35:18
    IamCupcakeCrazy
    +1
    Yes sometimes that is true.

    I am sorry to hear that happened to you, I hope you kicked his butt to the curb & told him where to go.
    That decision it yours to make & yours alone.

    I agree contraception should be used by all to prevent unwanted pregnancies, it is the best advice there is at the moment. The majority of women are wise enough to do so & protect themselves,but unfortuantely no contraception out there is 100% effective even steralization can fail.
  • D D IamCupc... 2012/08/30 05:24:47
    D D
    My boyfriend had gotten a previous girl to have an abortion. His brother had done the same thing to a girl.

    I realized he did not want a child and I let him move on. Not everyone has liked my decision because I never made him pay child support. I let him go a free bird.
  • PandahSixx IamCupc... 2012/08/29 12:50:35
    PandahSixx
    What the hell is your problem? From my persective no woman should be given the right to abotrion? What's the benefit of that? Your post nearly sickens me to death. Why should rape or incest be a free-way ticket towards an abortion *is she really going to feel good about herself through killing a baby* It's not an encouragment to tell women that they should get birth control so that they can have easier sex at free-will. And honestly, some women need to learn how to keep their damn legs closed, from preventing an unexpected pregnancy. It's not even about religious beliefs. About 1% of the time are the abortion cases ever about rape or incest, usually it's simply because they don't want a baby. What's your mentallity behind this? Yeah people argue that it's God's will for you to have a child, while millions of others cannot, but would be blessed to love for a child as their own. But instead for women of abortion it's like: Aww I slept with him, now I'm pregnant, I just just get an abortion. Why did you write this post? When i contemplate the whole post, it's rather more of a bragging right saying "I am a woman and I have the right to kill a fetus, simply because it's techinically not a hman being, and it's my body," which tracnslates, that while men kill men, women can kill unb...

    What the hell is your problem? From my persective no woman should be given the right to abotrion? What's the benefit of that? Your post nearly sickens me to death. Why should rape or incest be a free-way ticket towards an abortion *is she really going to feel good about herself through killing a baby* It's not an encouragment to tell women that they should get birth control so that they can have easier sex at free-will. And honestly, some women need to learn how to keep their damn legs closed, from preventing an unexpected pregnancy. It's not even about religious beliefs. About 1% of the time are the abortion cases ever about rape or incest, usually it's simply because they don't want a baby. What's your mentallity behind this? Yeah people argue that it's God's will for you to have a child, while millions of others cannot, but would be blessed to love for a child as their own. But instead for women of abortion it's like: Aww I slept with him, now I'm pregnant, I just just get an abortion. Why did you write this post? When i contemplate the whole post, it's rather more of a bragging right saying "I am a woman and I have the right to kill a fetus, simply because it's techinically not a hman being, and it's my body," which tracnslates, that while men kill men, women can kill unborn children

    - Now i'm a 14 year-old girl, and of course I do have to worry about sex, and pregnancies, but by no means will I ever abort my baby, for what? Self-satisfication? A right that I have to abort my child because of my say?
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  • gareth.... PandahSixx 2012/08/29 18:02:25
    gareth.ellzey
    Dear PandahSixx, At 14 you shouldn't have to be worrying about sex or pregnancies. You should be concentrating on getting an education and preparing yourself to be a productive citizen. If you want to be a wife and mother (hopefully in that order), apply yourself to obtaining the skills to be good at what you do. If you want a career, you will need skills and abilities to progress in your chosen field. By focusing on what you want to achieve in life, and brushing aside distractions like guys who just want to bonk you, you will not have to be concerned personally with abortions, etc.
    I personally loathe the idea of killing an unborn child. But I would never tell someone else she could not have an abortion. I DO strongly object to MY taxpayer dollars going to pay for it. I am old enough to remember the horrors of illegal abortions (not from a personal situation I assure you), and the infections, sterility and emotional destruction wreaked by them. Going back to the bad old days is not an option. But prevention, via abstinence or contraception, is.
    Too many guys don't want to wear condoms, because it 'doesn't feel as good.' Those guys are the ones to shun, completely, because they do not put their partners welfare above their own ephemeral sensations.
    Anyway, your post moved me. You are a passionate young lady, and obviously have strong emotions about this issue. I wish you well.
  • PandahSixx gareth.... 2012/08/29 18:03:33
    PandahSixx
    Well it's just that The person I was aruing about didn't think of a baby as a human being and that just makes me sad
  • LolaLee4 ivegotl... 2012/08/29 12:00:40
  • IamCupc... LolaLee4 2012/08/29 12:31:09 (edited)
    IamCupcakeCrazy
    DELETED- Sorry I thought this was aimed at me .lol
  • PandahSixx IamCupc... 2012/08/29 12:58:21
    PandahSixx
    People need to take responsibilities for their actions>

    That's still selfish. that argument is nearly financial. If you alreadt have several children, what's wrong with one more? Killing the child, because you don't want it to go hungry would rather seem devious. People think of that, but that only motivates them to try harder.

    And this argument is merely about taking care of herself> You don't realize that there are organizations that can help you with financial aid so that you can help raise your child

    And women who recieve abortions are whores. Why kill a baby for your convience? You get knocked up, but make a split-decision that you want to cut a growing life out of your womb. Even in cases of rape and incest, it's no excuse, because it's apparently signaling that you feel so bad for yourself that you can kill a fetus will more ease, which is appalling. Most of the time it's not even rape or incest, but just some woman who feels like her baby is a mistake she can get rid of.

    In simple format, you, youself are an incompetent narssasistic, sociopath who feels like a woman should get a ticket to terminate her pregnancy, through a series of excuses
  • IamCupc... PandahSixx 2012/08/29 14:22:44 (edited)
    IamCupcakeCrazy
    +3
    "Take responsibility for their actions"? Great upringing that child will have hmm? Feeling like their parents punishment & mistake for the rest of their life.

    Giving birth doesn't make a woman automaticaly responsible, as we see women are putting their unwanted babies in microwaves these days.

    You really trust a woman who you think is a irrespontible,murdering whOre to raise a child?

    "women who recieve abortions are wh0res" The majority of abortions happen with married & women in relationships,Where you get women are wh0res from I don't know.?

    Aww thanks for the crazy ranted insults, you are only proving yourself to be one narcissistic,sociopath yourself.

    "About 1% of the time are the abortion cases ever about rape or incest," You may want to look up how many rape & incest cases actually go unreported.

    "Why should rape or incest be a free-way ticket towards an abortion "
    So you would force a molested child through a pregnancy & painful labour & childbirth?

    And you call me fecking sick!?


    "Now i'm a 14 year-old girl," Ahh, now that explains it all. I thought you sounded like a little bratt throwing a tantrum. 14 what a age, so naive to the the realities of the world, you recieve a allowance from the parents I bet?. You do not know the struggles of getting a job,paying bills,& keeping a r...&

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    "Take responsibility for their actions"? Great upringing that child will have hmm? Feeling like their parents punishment & mistake for the rest of their life.

    Giving birth doesn't make a woman automaticaly responsible, as we see women are putting their unwanted babies in microwaves these days.

    You really trust a woman who you think is a irrespontible,murdering whOre to raise a child?

    "women who recieve abortions are wh0res" The majority of abortions happen with married & women in relationships,Where you get women are wh0res from I don't know.?

    Aww thanks for the crazy ranted insults, you are only proving yourself to be one narcissistic,sociopath yourself.

    "About 1% of the time are the abortion cases ever about rape or incest," You may want to look up how many rape & incest cases actually go unreported.

    "Why should rape or incest be a free-way ticket towards an abortion "
    So you would force a molested child through a pregnancy & painful labour & childbirth?

    And you call me fecking sick!?


    "Now i'm a 14 year-old girl," Ahh, now that explains it all. I thought you sounded like a little bratt throwing a tantrum. 14 what a age, so naive to the the realities of the world, you recieve a allowance from the parents I bet?. You do not know the struggles of getting a job,paying bills,& keeping a roof over your head, let alone the struggles of feeding & rasing a child.You have not yet lived.

    I was the same at you age,very naive to the world, then but I grew the feck up and realized everything it not black & white,babies are never just popped out so easily & live happy ever after in fairy tale ending & wanted by their mothers or society.

    People cannot afford them or do not have stable enough lives/enviroments to bring them into,there is not enough people adopting.

    Some women just cannot cope mentally,physically or financially with pregnancy,childbirth or raising a child it is the hardest,most demanding job in the world.

    "You don't realize that there are organizations that can help you with financial aid so that you can help raise your child"

    Well WHERE the hell is this help then!? because I certainly don't see enough of it.

    The harsh reality is the foster system is over flowing has more childen than it can handle,millions are already unwanted, millions of children are starving, millions of children are without homes.You somehow think bringing millions more unwanted & unloved into the world is good thing?

    Also since abortion became legal crime has droped over 30% & it continues to drop today, why? because these unwanted babies born into unwanted ,unloved enviroments & are not tuning into criminals.

    "Self-satisfication"? Quit the crack or whatever it is you are smoking, is not good for you!,especially when your brain is still in development.
    Abortion for satisfaction? what the feck!? No woman aborts for self satisfation,No woman get's pregnant because she enjoys abortions,don't be so ridiculous.
    Comdoms split,contraception fails,abortion will be the most difficult decistion a woman will face in her life I never once said it was a easy decision for a woman to make.
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  • PandahSixx IamCupc... 2012/08/29 15:12:25
    PandahSixx
    I'm not going to write all that, but none of what you said justified abortion. and there's nothing bratty about valuing a life, because apparently, it'd be easier for you to kill a baby, for convience. And you must take responsibility for your actrions.

    And you sound like a cold hearted human being who justifies every action by some type of baffling argument tht you know will stump the debater

    Shame onto you,.
  • IamCupc... PandahSixx 2012/08/29 16:22:36 (edited)
    IamCupcakeCrazy
    +3
    Admit it, you threw a little teenage hissy fit! Not because you value life but because me not agreeing with your beliefs irritated you.

    "there's nothing bratty about valuing a life" Am I not a life? You threw personal insults at me & and called, women wh0res, that is NOT valuing life,that is quite the opposite.


    "And you MUST take responsibility for your actrions." You MUST grow the f*ck up and realize abortions happen,abortions have been happening for 1000's of years & it wont stop until contraception becomes availible for all & become 100% effective.
    All you can do is keep it safe & legal for the safety of women & families until that time.
    Don't like abortion? No one does,not even me, but that's too bad, deal with it!

    "it'd be easier for you to kill a baby, for convience" Here we go again with the imature,bratty & manipulative comments.

    Nobody is killing babies & where are your sources to say all abortions are for convenience? That's right there are none, that's more bull$h!t spewing out of your mouth.

    you seriously think these blobs are babies yet?



    Potentially a baby yes,but baby NO.


    "cold hearted human being " You don't know what I do for a living do you? believe it or not, I actually help counsel those unwanted,abused kids that nobody wants,I have seen & heard abuse done to them tha...
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    Admit it, you threw a little teenage hissy fit! Not because you value life but because me not agreeing with your beliefs irritated you.

    "there's nothing bratty about valuing a life" Am I not a life? You threw personal insults at me & and called, women wh0res, that is NOT valuing life,that is quite the opposite.


    "And you MUST take responsibility for your actrions." You MUST grow the f*ck up and realize abortions happen,abortions have been happening for 1000's of years & it wont stop until contraception becomes availible for all & become 100% effective.
    All you can do is keep it safe & legal for the safety of women & families until that time.
    Don't like abortion? No one does,not even me, but that's too bad, deal with it!

    "it'd be easier for you to kill a baby, for convience" Here we go again with the imature,bratty & manipulative comments.

    Nobody is killing babies & where are your sources to say all abortions are for convenience? That's right there are none, that's more bull$h!t spewing out of your mouth.

    you seriously think these blobs are babies yet?

    killing babies sources abortions convenience bullht spewing mouth blobs babies

    Potentially a baby yes,but baby NO.


    "cold hearted human being " You don't know what I do for a living do you? believe it or not, I actually help counsel those unwanted,abused kids that nobody wants,I have seen & heard abuse done to them that you could not even imagine
    I have taken in my sisters child because of her drug & other problems.
    I also have have my own child to take care of, she is very loved & wanted thank you very much.

    Calling women,especially rape/incest victims, who have had to make one of the most difficult decistions they have ever faced,uncaring,selfish wh0res & murderers is cold hearted & low.
    The cold hearted one here is YOU! So take a good long look in your own f*cking mirror you hypocrite!

    SHAME ON YOU! YOU ARE A IMMATURE LITTLE BRAT!
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  • PandahSixx IamCupc... 2012/08/29 18:02:21
    PandahSixx
    This isnt even about a hissy fit, you cold bitch.
  • IamCupc... PandahSixx 2012/08/29 18:32:38
    IamCupcakeCrazy
    +2
    Oh so I'm a b!tch now? Thanks! How very **loving of human life you truly are.
    First off wanting to force a rape & child incest victims to carry their rapists offspring,insulting women by calling them wh0res,now calling me a b!tch.


    Did I hit a nerve or something?
    Please carry on with the insuts, I just love all this hypocrisy coming from you.
  • PandahSixx IamCupc... 2012/08/29 19:28:00
    PandahSixx
    What the hell is wrong with you? Apparently, none of what you said justifies killing a baby, ok?!
  • IamCupc... PandahSixx 2012/08/29 20:18:30
    IamCupcakeCrazy
    I really don't give a flying sh!t about non-sentient fetuses & embryos! Is it not sinking into that fetus obsessed little brain of yours?

    I care about the suffering living feeling women & children that are already here, I care about the women & children who you wrongly imply are wh0res & who you think are nothing but a womb on legs & should be forced to give birth.
  • PandahSixx IamCupc... 2012/08/29 20:34:47
    PandahSixx
    That's shameful of you, You don;t care about developing life but rather that a child in a stomach is a burden? What's so different about someone on the outside
  • IamCupc... PandahSixx 2012/08/29 22:04:42
    IamCupcakeCrazy
    +3
    They can actually feel.

    "You don't care about developing life but rather that a child" Shame on you! You put a undeveloped non-sentient blob over a sentient person.

    Of course I care more about the developed feeling,suffering child or woman, anyone with common sense would.

    Let me ask you a question: lets say a fertility clinic blew up, inside that clinic there is a freezer full 1000 fertilized eggs (or 1000 babies as you call them) ready to implant, a pregnant woman who is 6 weeks pregnant she will never wake up from a coma but life support will make sure she can carry the pregnancy to term & finally a child is hurt weeping on the floor, If you could only save 1 who would you save?

    The child on the floor am I right? & why would you save that child?
    Because they are the hurting & feeling one right?

    Get my point? The sentient feeling one always comes first.

    Don't you get it pregnancy ,birth & raising a child is no walk in the park especially if you do not have the resources or stable enviroment or health to do it in.
    But of course you don't understand the struggle of having children do you? You haven't yet been there have you.you are still infact a child yourself.who hasn't yet grown up & learnt.

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    They can actually feel.

    "You don't care about developing life but rather that a child" Shame on you! You put a undeveloped non-sentient blob over a sentient person.

    Of course I care more about the developed feeling,suffering child or woman, anyone with common sense would.

    Let me ask you a question: lets say a fertility clinic blew up, inside that clinic there is a freezer full 1000 fertilized eggs (or 1000 babies as you call them) ready to implant, a pregnant woman who is 6 weeks pregnant she will never wake up from a coma but life support will make sure she can carry the pregnancy to term & finally a child is hurt weeping on the floor, If you could only save 1 who would you save?

    The child on the floor am I right? & why would you save that child?
    Because they are the hurting & feeling one right?

    Get my point? The sentient feeling one always comes first.

    Don't you get it pregnancy ,birth & raising a child is no walk in the park especially if you do not have the resources or stable enviroment or health to do it in.
    But of course you don't understand the struggle of having children do you? You haven't yet been there have you.you are still infact a child yourself.who hasn't yet grown up & learnt.

    Some women just cannot cope with pregnancy & a painful childbirth, let alone have the ability to raising a child.

    Do you not have the brain cells to understand what I am saying?
    SOME WOMEN JUST CANNOT SIMPLY COPE!

    Still not sinking in? Need another few examples?

    A neighbour & friend of mine suffered serious postnatal depression after 2 pregnancies,she tried to kill herself the second time by swallowing a spoonfulls of sugar (she is diabetic) ,her 2 children were almost left without a mother,she became pregnant by accident the 3rd time she could not cope with going through it all again,so she had a abortion,today her kids still have a mother.

    Someone else I know has a disabled & dying mother needing around the clock care,she became pregnant she couldn't care for her mom & raise a child at the same time,she recieved a abortion.

    My cousins aunt had a 13 year old daughter who became pregnant she had a abortion.

    I knew of someone not so long ago actually, who had some sort of phobia of strange people touching her,I suspect she was abused sometime in her life,she was so scared of the thought of nurses & doctors touching her during birth she had to have a abortion.

    My sister has had a abortion, she has a serious drug problem,her previous daughter who I am curently raising was born addicted to drugs.

    A friend from college who lived in a very rough & very poor neighbourhood, who was the first out of her family to go to college had a abortion so she could get out ,make something of her life & make a stable enviroment for a future family, she has now graduated,she works for a great company,has a great husband & 2 amazing little boys.

    Most abortions happen for stories like these they are not for the selfish reasons you wrongly make out.

    How dare you even judge or berate these people. I actually hope one day you do walk in similar shoes maybe then you wouldn't be so quick to judge,
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  • PandahSixx IamCupc... 2012/08/30 10:56:12
    PandahSixx
    You're just dispeakable
  • gareth.... IamCupc... 2012/08/29 18:12:14
    gareth.ellzey
    I think castigating PandaSixx for her stand and calling her manipulative etc is a little manipulative and invalidative on your part. Back up your statements with real researched statistics, with a little less reactive emotion. The fact that in many societies women have been and still are (check out the countries dominated by Islam and Sharia law) chattels at worst and second class citizens at best, and the men around them have felt it to be their right to impregnate them forcefully or otherwise, does not make it ok to have abortions. I repudiate that viewpoint of trampling on women's right to their own bodies. But I also repudiate the radical feminist viewpoint that all men are rapists, and all sexual relations are rape. There are wonderful, caring men who cherish their children and the relationship with their wives and mothers of their children. THAT is the attitude to nourish; not just free-for-all abortions after casual no-strings attached sex. I totally agree, children should be wanted and loved and reared in a loving home. So yes, 100% effective contraception AND prevention of STDs is a great ideal. Abortion is not.
  • IamCupc... gareth.... 2012/08/29 20:14:41 (edited)
    IamCupcakeCrazy
    +2
    C'mon,are you serious? castigating this kid? this kid began replying to my comments incase you haven't noticed & in a very agressive manor.
    Insulting rape & incest victims,calling women wh0res,sorry but,no I am not taking that crap especially from some snot nosed spoilt little brat.

    "Back up your statements with real researched statistics" What statement would you like to see backed up? That can be done.

    "the radical feminist viewpoint that all men are rapists" Excuse me but where on earth do I imply all men are rapists? I do no such thing! I also do not imply all abortions are becase of rape.

    Of course there are great men out there who love & cherish their children,my partner of 4 years is one of those great men.

    "free-for-all abortions after casual no-strings attached sex"
    This is untrue:

    http://www.guttmacher.org/pub...

    The majority of abortions are performed on married & women in relationships.

    Free?
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

    http://civilliberty.about.com...

    "100% effective contraception AND prevention of STDs is a great ideal. Abortion is not."

    Sure abortion is not great,I have never said it was.but there is absolutely nothing you can do about it until contraception is made 100% effective & made easily availible & affordable to all.

    You cannot force a woman or guilt trip her into k...&


    &&



    C'mon,are you serious? castigating this kid? this kid began replying to my comments incase you haven't noticed & in a very agressive manor.
    Insulting rape & incest victims,calling women wh0res,sorry but,no I am not taking that crap especially from some snot nosed spoilt little brat.

    "Back up your statements with real researched statistics" What statement would you like to see backed up? That can be done.

    "the radical feminist viewpoint that all men are rapists" Excuse me but where on earth do I imply all men are rapists? I do no such thing! I also do not imply all abortions are becase of rape.

    Of course there are great men out there who love & cherish their children,my partner of 4 years is one of those great men.

    "free-for-all abortions after casual no-strings attached sex"
    This is untrue:

    http://www.guttmacher.org/pub...

    The majority of abortions are performed on married & women in relationships.

    Free?
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

    http://civilliberty.about.com...

    "100% effective contraception AND prevention of STDs is a great ideal. Abortion is not."

    Sure abortion is not great,I have never said it was.but there is absolutely nothing you can do about it until contraception is made 100% effective & made easily availible & affordable to all.

    You cannot force a woman or guilt trip her into keeping a pregnancy,you just have to accept & respect that decision even if you do not agree with it.
    A woman has every right to her own anatomy,her body is like her castle,she has every right to protect herself from threat from unwanted intruders, a unwanted pregnancy is seen as a threat or intruder to many women.

    You don't believe abortion is the answer,well I don't believe forcing women through unwanted pregnancies & having more unwanted & unloved kids in unwanted homes or the system is the answer.

    At the end of the day I will always side with the woman,she in the sentient being with emotions,relationships,family... life.
    A embryo or a fetus is not even aware of their own existence to feel or
    even care.
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  • PandahSixx IamCupc... 2012/08/29 20:35:58
    PandahSixx
    Do u realize that it's basically killing life because you can't care? And as for you, it's the woman's responsibilty,
  • IamCupc... PandahSixx 2012/08/29 22:13:22
    IamCupcakeCrazy
    +3
    "Killing life because I can't care"? Wtf are you smoking?

    What do other people getting abortions have to do with me? Abortion was legal far before I was even born, I am not holding any pregnant women at gunpoint to abort? I wont stand in a woman's way if she wants to abort.
    If they wan't a abortion that is their decision to make,not mine.
    I will respect their decision & not interfere with that.
  • PandahSixx gareth.... 2012/08/29 20:35:18
    PandahSixx
    exactly
  • George ... ivegotl... 2012/08/29 15:42:03
    George Zook
    if it were only abortion that would be one thing but the issues of equal pay... birth control ... and the definition of rape are an even bigger anti woman philosophy
  • laurenb... ivegotl... 2012/08/29 16:28:37
    laurenboelsche
    +2
    I don't think it's the abortion itself, I think it's the right to choice. Like I'm pro choice but I think abortion is awful. I'm not pro abortion, I'm pro- choice. I'm for the idea that if a woman feels something is best for her body that she's born with and she has to live with, her body that she's in charge of, she should be able to do that without some man she's never met saying his religion or beliefs are contrary to her decision. I don't think there should be any laws against what an adult person can do to their own body.
  • Annie~Pro American~Pro Israel 2012/08/29 08:52:36
    Yes
    Annie~Pro American~Pro Israel
    +4
    Yep, we're women friendly unlike the liberal regressive haters.

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