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Is the Obama Administration Clueless on Mideast Turmoil?

Chris D 2012/09/20 23:00:00
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Our diplomats are being murdered, and our embassies are being stormed. We take out dictators in Egypt and Libya and the power vacuum becomes filled with radical U.S. hating Muslims... Do Obama and Hilary Clinton know what they are doing in the Middle East?

CNN.COM reports:
William Bennett says the administration insists it was an inane anti-Islam film that provoked violent protests, but the story is more complex.

administration insists inane anti-islam film provoked violent protests story complex

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  • MQ-American Values Again (AVA) 2012/09/21 00:38:30
    Yes
    MQ-American Values Again (AVA)
    +34
    Clueless with his never ending ass kissing apologies from day one, which I believe led to the current problems .. they laughed at this first year junior senator who handed over our freedoms, our country and the lives most recently of 4 of our citizens .... they know Obama is weak.. they know he is complicit in what they do... they knew full well, even on 911 of all days, that they could most likely get away with another attack, and they did.... and why? Because as with everything else, Obama has turned his back on our allies and opened his arms to our enemies... and they took full advantage of his weak leadership... they spit on us and laugh at him... and he deserves it... what a F'ng clown!
    Since he has been president everything has collapsed .. from our economy to foreign affairs ... I often wonder who is more dangerous to our country... them (the terrorists) or the enemy from within (Obama) ....
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  • Kara ~~... johnnyg 2012/10/13 05:22:12
    Kara ~~~ American Patriot
    Did they bomb the Trade Centers? Did they kill our American Ambasador? Do they slaughter their own people?
    I stand with Isreal
    IIsreal loves America
  • johnnyg Kara ~~... 2012/10/26 20:18:50
  • Woman 2012/09/23 18:31:40
    Yes
    Woman
    +2
    It's more than clueless...he just doesn't care. Anyone in his position has access to enough data and information and could have studied and found out how to do a better job than he has!
  • Butterfly Woman 2012/09/24 00:01:19
    Butterfly
    +3
    See, how can this so called 'brilliant' man from Harvard be so dumb? He isn't. He knows exately what he is doing.....destroying America. He HAD information given to him over 36 hours before the storming and killings. He wanted this.
  • Yo'Adri... Butterfly 2012/09/24 13:41:38 (edited)
    Yo'Adrienne..AFCL
    +1
    right
    UNFORTUNATELY!!!!
  • Hawk Butterfly 2012/09/24 15:45:10
    Hawk
    Excellent post.
  • johnnyg Butterfly 2012/10/01 22:01:12
    johnnyg
    Affirmative Action sent Obama to Harvard as a foreign born student. Any foreign born dummy could have went to Harvard.
  • HOMBRE 2012/09/23 18:17:14
  • tommyg - POTL- PWCM-JLA 2012/09/23 18:10:08
    Yes
    tommyg - POTL- PWCM-JLA
    +4
    It sure seems like it, doesn't it?
  • mary E tommyg ... 2012/09/24 05:33:46
    mary E
    +3
    This administration seems clueless about every other thing, why not this?

    But, I don't think it is clueless, I think they are following an agenda and it's not good for America.
  • Yo'Adri... mary E 2012/09/24 13:43:13
    Yo'Adrienne..AFCL
    +2
    It's INTENTIONAL! We've had it folks.! This is what you call............."destruction from within....in clear sight....!"
  • mary E Yo'Adri... 2012/09/25 01:30:53
    mary E
    Agreed. Right in clear sight!
  • tommyg ... mary E 2012/09/24 15:45:36
    tommyg - POTL- PWCM-JLA
    +1
    You might be right Mary.
  • mary E tommyg ... 2012/09/25 01:32:36
    mary E
    +1
    I really hope I am not right, for the sake of our children!
  • Latti Ice Ganga Gangsta of ... 2012/09/23 16:41:18
    Yes, but Romney is clueless too
    Latti Ice Ganga Gangsta of PHAET
    +2
    And so was the past administrations who dealt with the Middle East.
  • Lynda Deming 2012/09/23 15:21:05
    No
    Lynda Deming
    +4
    No, he is not clueless. He knows EXACTLY what he is doing and so do the moslems. He is helping them wage their jihad for world dominance all the while destroying America from within.
  • Butterfly Lynda D... 2012/09/24 00:04:30
    Butterfly
    +3
    THank you, thank you, that is perfectly true We see it, I wish others did, instead of pulling the race card when we we say it .
  • Yo'Adri... Butterfly 2012/09/24 13:43:47
  • WTF 2012/09/23 15:20:25
    Yes
    WTF
    Where the he double L is Saudia Arabia right now. We haven't heard a peep out of them?
  • Farnsworth 2012/09/23 14:56:23
    Yes
    Farnsworth
    because he chooses to
  • ur XLNC-PWCM 2012/09/23 14:48:38
    No
    ur XLNC-PWCM
    +3
    It's just part of the plan. People do NOT reach such station in life by being stupid. Therefore, they ARE part of the plan and the agenda does not bode well for those that are not one of the ELITISTS.
  • mary E ur XLNC... 2012/09/24 05:36:54
    mary E
    +1
    I am sure the elitists would also eat their own if they got in the way!
  • Yo'Adri... ur XLNC... 2012/09/24 13:44:31
  • Bob DiN 2012/09/23 11:59:41
    Yes
    Bob DiN
    Yes Libya makes that obvious.
  • Drug Free 2012/09/23 07:09:40 (edited)
    No
    Drug Free
    +1
    They are well aware of what can develope.
    Some of it is for the better and some of it is for the worse...while what is happening is a progression towards change...some of it for the better and some of it for the worse.
    What is revealing is how many US citizens think that the " awfull governments" over there in the Middle East should be eliminated and replaced with the "opposition"....but really they are now realising that the reasons the previous governments were so hard on the citizens is because the "other" people and "other" political movements that would replace them are, all too often, worse than what the previous governments were like in many aspects.
    Meantime it is only a very small percent of the citizens that are protesting as many of those protesters are the most zealous of the religious radicals and many are unemployed having a lot of idle time on their hands and more than likely being paid or encouraged by the Muslim Clerics to go out and protest ......violently.
    Give the situation a few weeks and they will all be back to their poverty stricken religious ways that they seem to love so much to the point of willingness to "die" for their poverty stricken religious ways and the small minded mentality that comes with it.
    Remember, in those countries they live in a...






    They are well aware of what can develope.
    Some of it is for the better and some of it is for the worse...while what is happening is a progression towards change...some of it for the better and some of it for the worse.
    What is revealing is how many US citizens think that the " awfull governments" over there in the Middle East should be eliminated and replaced with the "opposition"....but really they are now realising that the reasons the previous governments were so hard on the citizens is because the "other" people and "other" political movements that would replace them are, all too often, worse than what the previous governments were like in many aspects.
    Meantime it is only a very small percent of the citizens that are protesting as many of those protesters are the most zealous of the religious radicals and many are unemployed having a lot of idle time on their hands and more than likely being paid or encouraged by the Muslim Clerics to go out and protest ......violently.
    Give the situation a few weeks and they will all be back to their poverty stricken religious ways that they seem to love so much to the point of willingness to "die" for their poverty stricken religious ways and the small minded mentality that comes with it.
    Remember, in those countries they live in a religious social environment that is more or less bound by all consuming and ever pressing religious values that result in: "Monkey see", "Monkey do" religious mentality that nearly all of them are continually subjected to while they stay there and live within their own close knit strict religious environments.
    Once they get out of those countries and come to places like America they loosen up a whole lot and live a far more balanced life while religious values are not practised with so much blind zealotry.
    However, in some parts of the U.S. where there are signifiant numbers of Muslims it is the religious clerics that once again will draw them into the fold of the church and guide them while more or less compelling them to adhere to their inheritied religious values no matter where they live while raising their Muslim families.
    It is like they can not get away from the religion that they were born to and stuck with. When you meet many of them, outside their hard core religious communities, you learn fast enough that they really would rather be living life and enjoying themselves rather than "always" be obligated to practice the religious values that they inherited by way of history and family.
    These factors and others are all part of how the Muslim religion gains its strength around the world while many of the Muslims do well and many do very well by being totally immersed in the Muslim religious practices and the many benefits that they are afforded while the masses of devout Muslims support the whole affair, more or less like a pyramid scheme of sorts.
    When the clerics call upon the devout believers to make a show of "bravado", there are more than enough of them that will eagerly go out there and protest and rant and chant and let the world know that the Muslims are offended while letting the world know that anything negative said about their religion and their religious values are not to be tolerated.
    But how many of them are out there angrily protesting???........0.001 percent of them.
    When tens of millions of enraged Muslims are on the street fighting and rampaging and destroying everything....... then it is time to leave!
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  • hatter 2012/09/23 05:39:28
    Yes
    hatter
    +4
    They don't understand that these nuts are caused all the wars in the past twenty years. Especially around Russia. And America keeps switching sides. So each time America helps them they get even more crazy. Kosovo was a muslim war .you know this from all the church burnings going on. They did the same in turkey drove most of the christens out with violence and hate. Welcome to islam
  • Ava Alexander 2012/09/23 02:35:40
    Yes
    Ava Alexander
    +5
    The Obama administration was warned 3 days earlier by the Lybian government that something was going to happen on 9/11 and they did nothing. And they didn't bother to beef up security knowing this. So right after the deaths of the 4 Americans in Lybia, instead of staying in the White House and doing some work for a change, he goes on the Late Show with David Letterman and announces that he doesn't know what the national debt is. Then zips off to a fund raiser with Beyonce and JayZ. Then the very next day he jets off to Las Vegas for more campaigning. If that isn't evident that he doesn't care about our country; let alone have a clue about Foreign Policy, not sure what is. He sympathizes with the muslims and throws Israel under the bus. Then he and his mouth pieces had the nerve for several days to say the uprise was due to a youtube trailer of a anti-muslim movie that came out in July which we knew was a big lie. And then the President of Lybia announces that is was planned in retaliation possibly for Osama's killing. He and his mouthpieces changed the reason and now saying "it was obviously terrorism and planned", yet there was no outrage about being lied to. Can you imagine the outrage if that was the Republicans? He came into office with zero experience in the economy, for...
    The Obama administration was warned 3 days earlier by the Lybian government that something was going to happen on 9/11 and they did nothing. And they didn't bother to beef up security knowing this. So right after the deaths of the 4 Americans in Lybia, instead of staying in the White House and doing some work for a change, he goes on the Late Show with David Letterman and announces that he doesn't know what the national debt is. Then zips off to a fund raiser with Beyonce and JayZ. Then the very next day he jets off to Las Vegas for more campaigning. If that isn't evident that he doesn't care about our country; let alone have a clue about Foreign Policy, not sure what is. He sympathizes with the muslims and throws Israel under the bus. Then he and his mouth pieces had the nerve for several days to say the uprise was due to a youtube trailer of a anti-muslim movie that came out in July which we knew was a big lie. And then the President of Lybia announces that is was planned in retaliation possibly for Osama's killing. He and his mouthpieces changed the reason and now saying "it was obviously terrorism and planned", yet there was no outrage about being lied to. Can you imagine the outrage if that was the Republicans? He came into office with zero experience in the economy, foreign policy, governing and working with people and zero business experience. And its evident he hasn't learned anything while in office except to spend money and seems to be clueless after four years of why that isn't working. The only thing that he has improved at is his golf game, blaming Bush and the Republicans and campaigning. You dims must be so proud.
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  • mary E Ava Ale... 2012/09/24 05:44:09
    mary E
    I know you said, "You dims must be so proud," to hopefully shame them, but I think they are really and truly proud of the mess being made! Too, too sad.
  • jubil8 BN-0 PON 2012/09/23 01:38:05
    No
    jubil8 BN-0 PON
    People who think it is are. And Romney is worse, at least partly because he's not President and therefore doesn't have access to a lot of info. Period.

    Nationally we've been pretty clueless historically for a long time now. We've angered people for decades, and you seriously think Obama should have fixed this -- along with the economy -- in less than 4 years? That's REALLY clueless.
  • Ava Ale... jubil8 ... 2012/09/23 03:16:46
    Ava Alexander
    +2
    We don't expect him to have all the answers (even though he tells us everyday he does, but obvioulsy he has none), but he needs to be stronger against those countries. Its kind of like parenting. If parents don't give in to the children and show them who the parent is, boundries and rules are usually respected. We know the Middle East hate us, I think the same reason the democrats hate republicans so much. The lies they've been fed all these years. But if you prove that you are going to punish them by withholding the money and giving them sanctions and making them accountable for them and and if they still refuse, then stop giving to them and get our allies to back us. It seems to help temporarily. They will never like us, and they will continue to try ways to hurt us, but apparently there are ways of keeping them in line for a while. That's what many strong leaders like Washington, Lincoln Truman, Reagan, and Bush did. They stood up to the bullies and never apologized.

    Regarding the economy. Reagan inherited a worse situation than Obama did (and you never heard him blame Carter, rather he fixed the problems) and by the way, every president inherits something from the previous administration, but we have never heard a president and his administration blame like this group do...

    We don't expect him to have all the answers (even though he tells us everyday he does, but obvioulsy he has none), but he needs to be stronger against those countries. Its kind of like parenting. If parents don't give in to the children and show them who the parent is, boundries and rules are usually respected. We know the Middle East hate us, I think the same reason the democrats hate republicans so much. The lies they've been fed all these years. But if you prove that you are going to punish them by withholding the money and giving them sanctions and making them accountable for them and and if they still refuse, then stop giving to them and get our allies to back us. It seems to help temporarily. They will never like us, and they will continue to try ways to hurt us, but apparently there are ways of keeping them in line for a while. That's what many strong leaders like Washington, Lincoln Truman, Reagan, and Bush did. They stood up to the bullies and never apologized.

    Regarding the economy. Reagan inherited a worse situation than Obama did (and you never heard him blame Carter, rather he fixed the problems) and by the way, every president inherits something from the previous administration, but we have never heard a president and his administration blame like this group does) and Reagan was able to turn it around his first 4 years. Obama doesn't want to listen to anyone. He thinks he can spend his way out of this and its like giving someone a credit card and they run it up until they are past their limit and then ask their aunt for money to pay it off. But then they keep using it and eventually the aunt stops giving them money or she runs out of money to give. And the only one that benefits is the credit card company. And in our case, China is benefiting since we are borrowing from them. You can not tax people if they don't have money to give; hence no jobs. When people are working they are stimulating the economy. And lastly, stop spending. Don't we all budget ourselves, so shouldn't the government?

    Also, if Obama would invest in drilling in our country that would create thousands of jobs. Instead he has given Brazil two billion dollars to drill in Brazil for oil to give to China, not us. And guess who is the largest individual stockholder of this Brazilian Oil Company and who would benefit most from this? It is Billionaire, George Soros, Liberal businessman who is a radical left wing supporter, finances MoveOn.org as well as other liberal programs and was President Obama's largest and most generous supporter during his campaign. Obama's agenda is not to make this country great, but appears to bring it down. We can't go another fours years like the past four years. Why would you give someone four more years if he couldn't figure it out this past four years. Any CEO that ran a business like he's been running the country would either bankrupt the company or get fired.
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  • jubil8 ... Ava Ale... 2012/09/23 04:31:08
    jubil8 BN-0 PON
    Like parenting? Now that's clueless.

    We are not in charge of how another sovereign country behaves. This isn't you telling a 5-yo child to wash his hands before dinner. This is you telling your ADULT neighbor to wash his hands, and his saying "No." Now what do you do? Refuse to serve him dinner? Send him home? Tell him he's a dolt? Shoot him?

    You can't FORCE adults to respect your boundaries. How the hell do you think a lot of wars start in the first place?

    No, NOT "regarding the economy." I mentioned it because so many people think Obama should have fixed 8 years of slop in as many months, I didn't discuss it, and I'm not going to. This question is about mideast policy, not the economy.
  • hatter jubil8 ... 2012/09/23 05:29:47
    hatter
    +2
    Bush blamer
  • jubil8 ... hatter 2012/09/23 14:59:52 (edited)
    jubil8 BN-0 PON
    I didn't mention Bush. Your ASSumption reveals your stupdity. Wallow in it.

    P.S. If you have a reading problem, you can get help for it.
  • Butterfly jubil8 ... 2012/09/24 00:27:03
    Butterfly
    +1
    Hey, it wasn't Bush that caused the economy problem. It was the DEMOCRATS that got control with Reid and Pelosi in 2007. It went down hill, from there, and all the liberal social programs , that suck, and don't help anyone, but cost us money. THe housing bubbling happned because of liberal program. CRA.
    Sure, you don't want to talk about the economy, because, obama has spENT FIVE TIMES THE AMOUNT IN 3 YEARS, THAT bUSH SPENT IN 8 YEARS TOTAL. (COMPUTER PROBLEMS/SPELLING)
  • jubil8 ... Butterfly 2012/09/24 02:20:23
    jubil8 BN-0 PON
    No, I don't want to talk about the economy in a question about foreign policy. There are probably only 10,000 questions about the economy on SH now but you think it should be 10,001. Yawn.

    Besides, I don't have any more time to waste on idiots today. Tomorrow doesn't look good for you either.
  • mary E jubil8 ... 2012/09/24 05:53:01
    mary E
    He reads very well. He knew your words "eight years of slop" referred to the Bush years. We understand EVERYTHING you said, even your attitude between the lines.
  • jubil8 ... mary E 2012/09/25 01:45:26
    jubil8 BN-0 PON
    You and your pals together don't understand enough to fill a 3 X 5 card.
  • hatter jubil8 ... 2012/09/25 06:20:39
    hatter
    Yah you suck. You said 8 years of slop. What else would you people be refurring to.
  • Ava Ale... jubil8 ... 2012/09/23 14:50:21 (edited)
    Ava Alexander
    +2
    Okay, you obviously missed my point, I didn't mean it literally, only to stand strong. So then Bush wasn't to blame for everything since you won't hold Obama accountable. But I'm not going to waste my time on that subject since you won't hold Obama accountable and admit he's weak. Actually you won't blame him for anything even with the fact he's in charge of this country thus the buck should stop with him! Why is it when a president is democrat it is never his fault, but when a president is Republican, everything is his fault. And the same goes with a senator or congressman, dims never do anything wrong even with proof of wrong doing, yet Republicans are always blamed even with proof the dims screwed up. Do you know how stupid the president and the rest of the dims in office and the liberal media and the dim voters look right now with the continuation of blaming Bush and the Republicans all the time (hello..Bush has been out for 4 yrs)...they are like little bratty kids that can't take responsilbility for their actions. Intead its easier to blame and get away with it since no one ever challenges them.

    The only reason your savior Bill Clinton was so loved was because he had a Republican congress (house and senate) to work with that gave the government a surplus as the dims like...

















    Okay, you obviously missed my point, I didn't mean it literally, only to stand strong. So then Bush wasn't to blame for everything since you won't hold Obama accountable. But I'm not going to waste my time on that subject since you won't hold Obama accountable and admit he's weak. Actually you won't blame him for anything even with the fact he's in charge of this country thus the buck should stop with him! Why is it when a president is democrat it is never his fault, but when a president is Republican, everything is his fault. And the same goes with a senator or congressman, dims never do anything wrong even with proof of wrong doing, yet Republicans are always blamed even with proof the dims screwed up. Do you know how stupid the president and the rest of the dims in office and the liberal media and the dim voters look right now with the continuation of blaming Bush and the Republicans all the time (hello..Bush has been out for 4 yrs)...they are like little bratty kids that can't take responsilbility for their actions. Intead its easier to blame and get away with it since no one ever challenges them.

    The only reason your savior Bill Clinton was so loved was because he had a Republican congress (house and senate) to work with that gave the government a surplus as the dims like to say, they made him balance the budget, but the Republicans are never mentioned or given credit, only Clinton gets the credit and he proudly accepts it. And if you looked, Bush didn't leave 8 years of a mess. That's just what the dims keep telling you since they are the ones that screw everything up and you people believe them. As we are seeing, even with four years the dims can't make things better; only worse. I'm sure you've never bothered to check out the facts. That's right, you people don't believe in facts, only lies. And when you find out a dem is to blame, the standard canned answer...."so what". Why was Reagan able to get us out of the mess (his first four years) he inherited from Carter and it was worse.

    "Many leading Democrats in Washington these days like to point to the fact that the federal budget was balanced for part of the time that President Bill Clinton was in office. What they do not mention is that those balanced budgets occurred only when Republicans controlled both houses of Congress. In fact, according to the historical data published by the Office of Management and Budget in the Obama White House, no Congress in which the Democrats controlled both the House and Senate has balanced the federal budget since fiscal 1969--more than 40 years ago. More recently, the federal budget was balanced in fiscal years 1998, 1999, 2000 and 2001. A Republican-controlled Congress approved the appropriations for each one of those years and Democratic President Bill Clinton signed them. In fiscal years 1994 and 1995, when President Clinton governed with a Democrat-controlled Congress, the federal government ran deficits of $203.2 billion and $163.9 billion respectively. In the November 2006 elections, Democrats won back the majority in both the House and Senate, and in the three fiscal years that have started since then (2008, 2009, 2010), they have run record deficits of $458.6 billion, $1.41 trillion and $1.55 trillion" Source: CBSNEWS

    Gasoline prices, the rate of poverty, food stamp use and the federal debt are worse today than when the president took office. The unemployment rate, personal income and the stock market turned worse under Obama. The stock market only goes up when Bernanke prints money to help out Obama.

    Here are some facts: Bush 2008 Obama 2012

    Unemployement Rate 5% 8.2%
    People that stopped looking, but still unemployed 9.2% 14.8%
    White Unemployment Rate 4.4% 7.4%
    Black Unemployment Rate 9.1% 13.6%
    Hispanic Unemployment Rate 6.5% 11%
    Median Weeks Unemployed 9% 20.1%
    source:

    Sorry if my chart looks messy. Numbers are correct.

    Actually Bush was successful under his presidency despite the 9/11 terror attack, but you would never know that since you listen to the lies that are constantly repeated about him. Check out the youtube videos (2001-2008) proving that the dems created the financial and housing messes and then like clockwork turned around and blamed the Republicans.
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  • jubil8 ... Ava Ale... 2012/09/23 15:14:12
    jubil8 BN-0 PON
    I didn't miss your point. I'm telling you straight out your way of stating the point is part of why our foreign policy is and has been a disaster for a long time now. It's about ATTITUDES as well as DEEDS. You don't seem to be interested in anyone's point(s) except your own. ALL I said was that expecting Obama to fix our foreign policy disasters in less than 4 years was clueless. I didn't say he'd done a good job or that I agreed with his positions. But you took it on yourself not only to tell me what I meant but why I'm wrong, which is pretty arrogant. You made this personal -- about what I said -- rather than objective -- about our foreign policy, and I'm rejecting your attempt. I don't debate people who can't stay on point.

    Out of curiousity, what part of "No, NOT regarding the economy" was too tough for you to understand? I really thought it was obvious even to an idiot that I'm not going off into a different topic here. It's not that I object to having provided you with the platform to state your views (which are pretty mundane and hardly original), it's just that I'm not wasting my time engaging with you over your opinions which don't interest me in the least.

    Have a nice day.

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