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The Wrong Guy 2012/06/28 19:43:09
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Supreme Court Obamacare Decision Highlights Why a President Romney Would be More Dangerous than President Obama

A President Mitt Romney would not undo ObamaCare. He’d make it permanent.

The National Libertarian Party issued the following statement today:

The Supreme Court Ruling on ObamaCare does not matter. It will make little difference to America in the short run, and no difference in the long run.

Why? Because almost all elected Republicans and Democrats are Big Government politicians – in all things – including health care. After this Supreme Court decision, they will get back to work expanding government involvement in all things – especially health care.

One thing could make things worse. Electing Republican Mitt Romney President.

Why?

Republicans fiercely oppose, and often defeat Democratic Party attempts to massively expand government involvement in Health Care – such as HillaryCare.

But Democrats usually vote for Republican Party legislation to massively expand government’s role in Health Care.

Republican President George Bush’s $1.1 Trillion Government Prescription Drug Program was voted into law by Republicans and Democrats.

Republican Governor Mitt Romney’s Massachusetts state government expansion into Massachusetts health care – RomneyCare – was voted into law by both Republicans and Democrats. With virtually no resistance.

A Republican-controlled House of Representatives and US Senate would oppose Democratic President Barack Obama’s health care proposals.

But a Republican majority House of Representatives and US Senate would support and vote for a Republican President Mitt Romney’s Big Government health care proposals. And most Democrats in the House and Senate would, too.

What Republican Governor Romney did to Massachusetts’ health care, a Republican President Romney would do to America’s health care.

A President Mitt Romney would not undo ObamaCare. He’ll make it permanent.

A first-term President Mitt Romney would be far more dangerous to small business, the private sector, and taxpayers than a lame-duck President Obama – no matter what the Supreme Court decided

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  • maggiemay 2012/06/28 19:54:10
    No
    maggiemay
    +17
    I'll take my chances with Romney. I already know what Obama has done. Four more years of him would be more then just dangerous. It would be fatal.

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  • findthelight2000 2012/07/06 02:19:03 (edited)
    Yes
    findthelight2000
    +1
    Yes they are right that Romney as President would be more dangerous to America than Obama, but they are not right that a Libertarian would be better than President Obama.
  • Sheila 2012/07/02 19:47:06
    No
    Sheila
    +1
    What a ridiculous premis. He said the very first thing he would do is to repeal. I HAVE to take him at his word because I KNOW O is sure NOT planning to fix it.

    We KNOW O is Telling our ummmm, for lack of a better term "frenemies" to cut him slack on siding with them untill he is no longer accountable (after the election) and can help them out more.
  • JoeM~PWCM~JLA 2012/07/02 15:24:58
    No
    JoeM~PWCM~JLA
    The logic, while understandable, is overly simplistic and makes a number of assumptions that are not supportable by the known facts.
  • getu 2012/07/02 01:34:30
    No
    getu
    +1
    The only candidate more dangerous to the U.S. than Obama would be if we elect the leader of Syria. That would POSSIBLY be more damaging to our way of life. Romney may have some tending to liberal ideas, but he has never demonstrated anything other than respect and loyalty to the United States.
  • evangelism_vision 2012/06/30 22:23:24 (edited)
    No
    evangelism_vision
    +4
    On the Discussion:



    "Rave this if you are enjoying watching CONservative heads expl...

    Watching heads explode is fun!"



    "The Wrong Guy responded:



    Opinion: Most conservatives are poor excuses for human beings, so yeah, watching them piss and moan even more than normal is pleasurable.

    TYPICAL RESPONSE FROM A MARXIST WHO SUPPORTS OBAMA



    AND NOW THE WRONG GUY ASK US THE FOLLOWING:



    Is the Libertarian Party right - would Romney as President be more dangerous to America than Obama?



    Or is it possible that the Democrat Party are trying to do what they do best by creating unrest between Ron Paul Supporters and Republicans?





    YOU KNOW WHAT I THINK? I believe that America has a Grave Enemy and they live in every City across this land called America. They follow a traitor who is a Communist and they too are all Communist because of their support for Obama.



    BIRDS OF A FEATHER FLOCK TOGETHER COMRADES OUT THERE WHO LOVE OBAMA AND WHO LOVE TO SCREW THE AMERICAN PEOPLE



    TWO WORDS SCREW YOU I AM VOTING FOR ROMNEY RATHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT!
  • WhereIsAmerica? ~PWCM~JLA 2012/06/30 21:28:12
    No
    WhereIsAmerica? ~PWCM~JLA
    +5
    That is stupid.
  • DefendnProtect 2012/06/30 21:27:00 (edited)
    Maybe
    DefendnProtect
    +1
    It's hard to imagine, but perhaps yes. I agree with this analysis on (crony) big government healthcare.

    I'm not sure on foreign policy. The Obama democrats have proven to be good neocons expanding 6 wars (Iraq they left 15,000 mercenaries behind), not closing Gitmo, not prosecuting known war criminals like Bush and Cheney, bragging about extra judicial assassination of 'terrorist' suspects and extending the patriot act with NDAA.

    However, with a Romney President could they snap back in old partisan strides opposing bankrupting foreign adventures just to win votes back?

    No, that would be naive, they'll support Romney's military adventures just like they supported the ones of Bush or expanded them by themselves in Afghanistan, into Pakistan, Yemen, Somalia, Libya.

    WW3 against Syria, Iran, Russia, China, Indonesia among others will probably happen after the elections (4 years blank check of voters) regardless who's President.

    obomba
  • Kane Fernau 2012/06/30 18:46:07
    No
    Kane Fernau
    +4
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    Thursday, June 28th, 2012 | Posted by admin
    Communist Party USA: Re-electing Obama is ‘absolutely essential’

    Special to WorldTribune.com

    By Cliff Kincaid

    A writer for the Communist Party USA warns that “divisions among Democrats and a potential wave of bad economic news can combine to threaten President Obama’s re-election.”

    Marxist John Case, who writes for various CPUSA publications, has written a piece, “The danger of a Romney election,” for the party publication People’s World, which warns that “re-electing Obama is not sufficient to bring economic recovery or even relief to our people. Only a different class configuration in political power can do necessary minimum reforms to give us a chance. But re-electing Obama is absolutely essential. Now is not the time for hand washing the complexities and tactics away — or failing to triage the most critical questions from those that are less critical. We cannot win everything at once!”

    In reality, the CPUSA’s endorsement of Obama for a second term is not surprising. Various CPUSA officials, including Jarv...



















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    Thursday, June 28th, 2012 | Posted by admin
    Communist Party USA: Re-electing Obama is ‘absolutely essential’

    Special to WorldTribune.com

    By Cliff Kincaid

    A writer for the Communist Party USA warns that “divisions among Democrats and a potential wave of bad economic news can combine to threaten President Obama’s re-election.”

    Marxist John Case, who writes for various CPUSA publications, has written a piece, “The danger of a Romney election,” for the party publication People’s World, which warns that “re-electing Obama is not sufficient to bring economic recovery or even relief to our people. Only a different class configuration in political power can do necessary minimum reforms to give us a chance. But re-electing Obama is absolutely essential. Now is not the time for hand washing the complexities and tactics away — or failing to triage the most critical questions from those that are less critical. We cannot win everything at once!”

    In reality, the CPUSA’s endorsement of Obama for a second term is not surprising. Various CPUSA officials, including Jarvis Tyner and Joelle Fishman, have openly expressed support for the U.S. president and his agenda.

    Since 1988, the CPUSA has not run its own candidates for president and vice-president, preferring instead to work through the Democratic Party. Its support for Obama in 2008 and again this year has been open and outspoken.

    The Case article offers a rationale, mostly on economic grounds, for getting Obama re-elected to a second term. He claims that the Republicans intend to do on a national level what Scott Walker has done as governor in Wisconsin — reduce government spending and the power of organized labor. Case refers to the prospect of a national “Walker-like regime.” Case laments the fact that “many private sector workers,” including 25 percent of Wisconsin union members, supported Walker.

    In that case, as we have reported, Obama’s progressive allies were soundly defeated by Walker and his conservative backers.

    Obama’s support in the CPUSA, a political entity once funded and directed by Moscow, has become an open secret, although the major media treat the subject as something not worthy of serious discussion. This silent treatment extends to the matter of Obama’s mentor, a member of the CPUSA named Frank Marshall Davis. Members of the party have known of Obama’s connection to Davis for many years, which may account for their support of the Democratic Party politician in 2008 and now in 2012. A congressional friend of Obama’s from his Chicago days, Rep. Danny K. Davis, still associates with the CPUSA and even accepted an award from them.

    Obama isn’t the only Democrat getting various kinds of communist support. Workers World Party, an openly Marxist-Leninist party, endorsed Democrat Charles Barron for the U.S. House in the 8th Congressional District in New York City. However, in that primary election, which was held on June 26, Barron lost.

    The Workers World Party newspaper referred to Barron, a city council member, as “a former Black Panther who continues to connect with many sectors of the progressive movement. He has marched alongside oppressed activists and Occupy Wall Street in the fight against poverty, budget cuts, foreclosures, racial profiling like stop-and-frisk, police brutality, the prison-industrial complex, and all forms of injustice at home and abroad.” It said Barron had won the endorsement of District Council 37, the city’s largest public employee union, representing 125,000 members and 50,000 retirees, and the black-oriented Amsterdam News.

    The Workers World Party was investigated by the House Internal Security Committee for its support of the North Korean regime and Arab terrorist groups. But the House Committee was disbanded by liberals in Congress.

    The CPUSA writer John Case has not been without criticism of Obama, saying that the Democratic President made a huge mistake by firing Van Jones as White House Green Jobs czar after his communist background came to light. Case wrote last year that Jones’ “Rebuild the Dream” campaign “contains all the elements that save the Obama presidency that discarded him, and the party that failed to come to his defense.”

    There is speculation that Jones was fired because the chain of command that hired him led to the Oval Office, including Obama adviser Valerie Jarrett and Obama himself.

    Jones remains a major figure in the progressive movement backing Obama, however, and was a featured speaker at the “Take Back the American Dream” conference recently held in Washington, D.C. Participants in the conference included Communist Party activists Jarvis Tyner and Joelle Fishman.
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  • The Wro... Kane Fe... 2012/06/30 19:46:49
    The Wrong Guy
    +1
    None of which has anything to do at all with this poll.

    What the f*** is wrong with you?
  • Kane Fe... The Wro... 2012/06/30 20:19:42
    Kane Fernau
    +2
    I was just pointing out that Communists really really really like Barack Hussein Obama.
  • The Wro... Kane Fe... 2012/06/30 23:01:42
    The Wrong Guy
    +1
    ...which STILL doesn't have anything at all to do with the post. You succeed brilliantly in your failure, congratulations.
  • Kane Fe... The Wro... 2012/06/30 23:32:36
    Kane Fernau
    +1
    NO, Communist Obama is no danger to you.
  • Obama Failed Soda Head Chie... 2012/06/30 13:16:19
  • findthe... Obama F... 2012/07/06 02:22:12
    findthelight2000
    +1
    I work in the health industry, and most doctors are in favor of the Affordable Care Act.
  • Lord Emperor of Dune 2012/06/30 09:15:47
    Maybe
    Lord Emperor of Dune
    +1
    The thing about Romney is that since he would want a second term, he would have to face some accountability. Obama won't. IDK, guys... America needs help, and it's going to be scary when help finally arrives. Invest in precious metals: buy lead!
  • mwg0735 2012/06/30 08:38:29
  • Jenn 2012/06/30 08:37:21 (edited)
    No
    Jenn
    +3
    !! Nobody but nobody,could be as dangerous to this country as Obama is..I think this past month Obama has proved beyond a shadow of doubt, just what a danger he is to this country..OMG..What a liar !
  • Jim 2012/06/30 08:31:46
    No
    Jim
    +1
    There is contradictions in this ranting by the Libertarian Party. They are just trying to get Ron Paul elected. If they want Obama elected, just vote for Ron Paul. The smartest thing Romney should take Ron Paul as his Veep.
  • mike 2012/06/30 08:27:44
    No
    mike
    +2
    As an independent conservative I alighn closer to the Libertarians then I do the Republicans, and I can't see any thing worse then then having a marxist muslim in an unrestrained second term.
  • TuringsChild 2012/06/30 08:25:19
    Yes
    TuringsChild
    +1
    Romney, Obama, Bush II, Clinton, and Bush I have been essentially identical figureheads for the same Authoritarians who have been ruling ever since Reagan got Alzheimer's.
  • Jim Turings... 2012/06/30 08:33:54
    Jim
    +1
    What has that to do with the question? You just hate America and want Nikita Obama in office.
  • Turings... Jim 2012/06/30 16:45:45
    TuringsChild
    +1
    Are you BLIND?! REREAD THE SECOND WORD in my answer.

    Sheesh. What a jerk!

    The Libertarian Party is the only one that has it right. We are not supposed to be an Authoritarian Plutocracy. We're SUPPOSED to be a Constitutional Republic.
  • Aqua Surf BTO-t-BCRA-F 2012/06/30 07:20:16
    No
    Aqua Surf BTO-t-BCRA-F
    What utter nonsense.
  • Pedro Doller ~Inc. 2012/06/30 05:58:10
    Maybe
    Pedro Doller ~Inc.
    When Mitt was the Gov, he was Kennedy's butt boy. Everything he did, had to have Fat Boy Teddy's approval to even move. Teddy was the Mafia Boss of MA, and Mitt had to answer to him.
  • Jim Pedro D... 2012/06/30 08:35:31
    Jim
    +3
    Nonsense. Romney never drove a car into a pond in Chapaquidick with a girl in the car.
  • Pedro D... Jim 2012/06/30 08:37:38
    Pedro Doller ~Inc.
    +1
    lmao, good one
  • LisaSmith 2012/06/29 17:24:29
    No
    LisaSmith
    +2
    I am willing to give Romney a chance. If he screws us over like obama did then he gets 4 and out the door.
  • William 2012/06/29 07:35:03
    No
    William
    +1
    I should have chosen "Maybe". Historically succeeding administrations have spent more per GDP and oppressed more than the previous administration. This is true for all modern presidents--except Clinton. I can't imagine Romney being worse than Obama, but that's what I said about Obama as well. Huh. :\
  • Jim William 2012/06/30 08:36:55
    Jim
    +2
    No one could ever be worse than Obama. He made Jimmy Carter look like a genius.
  • William Jim 2012/07/04 06:05:35
    William
    He, heh, yeah, I've said that before too. There's always worse.
  • aherbert 2012/06/29 06:04:17
    Yes
    aherbert
    +2
    Romney and the GOP tea baggers are off the chain i.e. running amuck. gop tea baggers running amuck
  • Jim aherbert 2012/06/30 08:39:02
    Jim
    +2
    Obama is a Marxist-Socialist who sides with Islam. He cancelled the National Day of Prayer and then knelt down and prayed with the Muslims.
  • aherbert Jim 2012/07/01 04:45:39
    aherbert
    +1
    You know Jim that is your opinion ... but not that of the majority of Americans ... You got to love democracy?
  • getu aherbert 2012/07/02 01:41:44
    getu
    I see that post comes from a minority in CT; strange thing... All the "minority" voters I know in Missouri, California, Florida, S. Carolina, Illinois, Texas and Alabama all are of the same opinion as the guy from CT... Where ARE all those majority opinionators?
  • aherbert getu 2012/07/03 01:41:53
    aherbert
    +1
    What is your point? All the voters you know are most likely like minded people that are insignificant in a national election … look at the polls the President is leading Romney in every demographic with the exception of your kind even in Florida and definitely in California … the Republicans are trying to disenfranchise voters and several deceptive tactics to the point of not accepting the Supreme Court ruling … give me a freaking break we accepted the ruling during Gore run for presidency. Isn’t this the American way …
  • getu aherbert 2012/07/03 18:48:45
    getu
    Whatever makes you feel better...

    As far as the voters I know, they are not personal friends so I really don't know how "like-minded" we are in general, but these are conversations that I've heard or been part of as we traveled. None of the conversations were initiated by me as I don't walk up to strangers and ask them their political beliefs.

    I don't believe either you or I can be so totally sure that one way or the other is the "winning" way. People who are absolutely "sure" make me doubt the validity of results they are expecting (such as everyone who "knew" beforehand that Gore was going to win in Florida). If an election is held according to our laws, no one can be certain [in advance] who is going to have the majority of the votes.
  • aherbert getu 2012/07/03 18:54:29
  • getu aherbert 2012/07/03 19:02:00
    getu
    Well, yes, you are. And you didn't really respond in any meaningful way, so I guess that means you really have nothing meaningful to add.
  • aherbert getu 2012/07/03 19:11:08
    aherbert
    +1
    You really want my response? You ask for it – I cannot imagine you on travel happening to walk up on individuals that reveals how they are going to vote … casually talking politics with strangers is unheard of unless you are at a political rally. Gore won Florida … the Supreme Court gave the presidency to Dubya … that is just a fact. One can pre-determine how the vote is going to swing by polling the voters … not rocket science. It is unfortunate that GOP will disenfranchise voters or downright cheat to get their guy into office … they will even buy your vote … for me and other honest Americans … our vote is not for sale.
  • getu aherbert 2012/07/03 19:26:14 (edited)
    getu
    Actually it's quite easy to hear political conversations, if your business activities cause interaction with groups of company employees. Since we would normally be at a location into or through their lunch hours, often we were invited to their lunchrooms and people everywhere have been talking about this president and this Congress.

    You're correct in that you can get an idea about an election by polling. But even the most reliable pollsters have said on camera that they are often surprised by the final result. So, again, how can ANYONE state with assurity that one candidate or another will absolutely win, prior to the votes being counted?

    I'm sure you must know of some GOP effort to buy someone's vote or you would not have inserted that one. But the one that made the papers where we were at the time (St. Louis) involved Obama election workers and inner city voters. There was lots of coverage on that type of activity in multiple cities.

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