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Is the 'Gender-Neutral Bill' Fair Game?

tentmaster 2013/02/06 22:00:00
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A new bill, already passing the Senate Commerce and Labor Committee, could neutralize the way men and women of Washington State describe certain words and phrases. Words like 'freshman', 'dairyman', and even 'penmanship' might have to be changed to play a more gender-neutral role.

Even though Florida and Minnesota have already revised their laws, opposers of the bill are saying those phrases are impartial and states should concentrate on more important matters, like economy and education. What do you think? Is the gender-neutral bill fair game -- or a face palm?

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  • HAlex1972 2013/02/22 10:28:26
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    HAlex1972
    OMG, give me a break with all of the PC BS.
  • Samantha Lewis 2013/02/11 02:30:59
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    Samantha Lewis
    +1
    Oh please with so much going on this is what the idiots are dealing with!
  • ArisBoch 2013/02/11 00:15:22
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    ArisBoch
    +1
    Ain't worth the effort.
  • Rdtourist 2013/02/10 23:26:33 (edited)
    Fair Game
    Rdtourist
    +2
    Thank God the Navy still calls its entry level folks SEAMEN, not some awful made up dnivel like Military Marine Person, Basic, E-3. They even have the temerity to call Yeamen, Yeomen. Lord knows it get silly as Hell, the Air Force even calls Airmen Airmen.

    I once had to rewrite a local Federal Civil Service manual to remove all reference to He, She, Him and marital status such as Mrs and Miss, what a friggin PIA to have to remove VERY old English traditional indefinite forms to suit some offended Prima Donas that do NOT want to be anything but VERBALLY equal if nothing else. None of this verbal implications of other sexes when talking about anyone, Name the Name, as it were.
  • DISCO 2013/02/10 22:43:28
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    DISCO
    +1
    This is ridiculous where in the hell did the word woman come from man. If it was not for Adams rib there would not be a woman/ Dont we have something else better to do with our time like being on SODA HEAD


    Adams rib
  • Cap 2013/02/10 20:00:44 (edited)
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    Cap
    +1
    Those terms are already generally treated as gender neutral. If the proposal amends the law governing statutory interpretation of statutes contained in Washington's Codified Laws by stating merely that the term or suffix "man" or "men" when used to reference human shall be legally construed to refer to individuals of either gender as should other gender-specific pronouns, unless the statute in question specifically directs otherwise, then go ahead and pass it; it's constructive and may even be worth the bother of enactment. But anything more onerous than that bespeaks people who have too much time on their hands.
  • Willski 2013/02/10 18:47:07
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    Willski
    +2
    In DnD 3.5 they just have a disclaimer at the start saying the gender terms aren't indicative of anything.
    For most of the books they female terms, (Except sometimes for class descriptions where their example is a male, or for most monsters...) That seems to work fine.

    Besides, who actually thinks the term "freshmen" means they're all male, is offended by that or is too stupid to be able to substitute their own gender descriptor?
  • Papillon Willski 2013/02/23 18:58:59
    Papillon
    You'd be surprised. There was an entire book on the subject from a progenitive point of view. I can't remember the name of it; it was written by some militant lesbian feminazi. Wome people just have nothing better to do with their time.
  • calvin236 2013/02/10 16:25:04 (edited)
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    calvin236
    +5
    I don't even have words to describe how stupid that is. stupid
  • Ricky 2013/02/10 15:39:34
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    Ricky
    +2
    I'm all for gender neutrality, but this is just stupid. Those words refer to mankind as a race.
  • Papillon Ricky 2013/02/23 19:00:32
    Papillon
    +1
    Gender neutrality? The genders are not neutral. They are clearly different; opposite as a matter of fact. Any move to change that is just assinine and self delusional.
  • keeper 2013/02/10 03:38:46
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    keeper
    +2
    Serious waste of time and money!
  • NINsanity! (Auflösung) 2013/02/10 00:57:27 (edited)
  • gvc 2013/02/10 00:30:21
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    gvc
    +3
    A waste of time and money! Of course, wasting time and money is Washington's best event.
  • Airwool 2013/02/09 21:43:58
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    Airwool
    +3
    stupid is as stupid does...
  • Ian 2013/02/09 21:33:03 (edited)
    Fair Game
    Ian
    +3
    I meant to hit "*Face Palm*", fml. Anyways, I think it's silly. No one actually thinks of a man when they heard words with the suffix "-man". Absolutely preposterous.
  • Platinum Fangs 2013/02/09 18:46:41
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    Platinum Fangs
    +2
    You want gender neutral? Enforcing fair pay amongst men & women is a good place to start.

    Although if this does pass, the gender neutral thing should apply to religious institutions also. Why is god always addressed as a "he"?
  • Willski Platinu... 2013/02/10 18:50:14
    Willski
    +1
    Good question, I use "(S)he/it" for the Christian god.
    I think it's because people prefer to say "he" than "it" about their god. "It" tends to be seen as negative.

    I prefer the Polytheistic religions for that, most of those assign all of their gods atleast one gender.
  • Papillon Platinu... 2013/02/23 19:02:28
  • Platinu... Papillon 2013/02/23 21:40:25
  • Papillon Platinu... 2013/02/24 07:43:26
  • Platinu... Papillon 2013/02/24 16:53:44
    Platinum Fangs
    No seriously
    whats your problem
  • Papillon Platinu... 2013/02/24 19:51:55
    Papillon
    Seriously, the depiction of God as a feminine entity and praying to 'goddess' is ridiculous. It even sounds clunky and uncoordinated.

    This business of 'new age' thinking; a society where anything and everything is 'ok', from sexual perversion (soliciting and even applauding homosexuality as 'just another life choice) to religious smorgasbord from which children can choose to build their own morality is both infantile and dangerously seductive to those with weak minds.

    Before you go berating Christians and their morality, let me set my argument in place. The Bible has been around for over 2000 years. It is now and has always been the leading best seller of all time since the advent of the printed word. All of the other spiritual tomes pale in comparison. The leading ones that strive for equivalence with the Bible pale in comparison.

    The Bible is a teaching manual for living life Those that decry its truths and deny its credibility by reading it and cutting huge smipets simply for the purpose of refuting its teachings as hypocritical, advocating violence and to portray God as the source of evil and all of the wrongs in the world are erroneous in their very foundation. They are the epitome of apostate thinking.

    So your contention and adcocacy of a 'let the children tea...



    Seriously, the depiction of God as a feminine entity and praying to 'goddess' is ridiculous. It even sounds clunky and uncoordinated.

    This business of 'new age' thinking; a society where anything and everything is 'ok', from sexual perversion (soliciting and even applauding homosexuality as 'just another life choice) to religious smorgasbord from which children can choose to build their own morality is both infantile and dangerously seductive to those with weak minds.

    Before you go berating Christians and their morality, let me set my argument in place. The Bible has been around for over 2000 years. It is now and has always been the leading best seller of all time since the advent of the printed word. All of the other spiritual tomes pale in comparison. The leading ones that strive for equivalence with the Bible pale in comparison.

    The Bible is a teaching manual for living life Those that decry its truths and deny its credibility by reading it and cutting huge smipets simply for the purpose of refuting its teachings as hypocritical, advocating violence and to portray God as the source of evil and all of the wrongs in the world are erroneous in their very foundation. They are the epitome of apostate thinking.

    So your contention and adcocacy of a 'let the children teach themselves' mindset promotes the blind leading the blind.

    The sentence in which you advocate a gender neutral God is the key to my contentions.This was a reaction to a couple of short sentences, and it is a long one but has roots in reason. That reason is that any of this new age garbage such as calling God 'she' or advocating 'gender neutrality' is false and promotional of a 1984 type of society and should not be pursued. And those that do advocate this sort of thing are a destructive blight on society and should be ignored and excised.

    Satisfied? You asked for it...several times.
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  • Platinu... Papillon 2013/02/25 18:16:12
    Platinum Fangs
    It just doesn't make much sense to me. God is creator of all things right? Including gender. Since god was in existence long before the concept of gender ever was, why and how would god have a gender to be described and why would god restrict him/herself to a gender at all? How do we know god is a he, and how do we know those perceptions are accurate? It just isn't very logical.
  • Papillon Platinu... 2013/02/25 18:38:41
    Papillon
    I guess it's not. But then, faith is not logical either. The world of mankind is not formed on earthly logic, though.
  • Grant Davison 2013/02/09 17:52:01
  • chucky 2013/02/09 17:40:14
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    chucky
    Absolute Bull.
  • Red Branch 2013/02/09 17:31:19
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    Red Branch
    Washington legislators should place a hold on this project while they decide how many drones they need in the sky over their state.
  • mingo 2013/02/09 17:03:27
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    mingo
    This is ridiculous
  • hatter 2013/02/09 13:18:24
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    hatter
    +1
    Every body has to have a vagina and a penis. It is now mandatory.
  • HAlex1972 hatter 2013/02/22 10:30:56
    HAlex1972
    LMAO
  • NYCbrit 2013/02/09 06:46:39
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    NYCbrit
    +3
    Why is this even a thing? Yes, I'm a guy, but I've asked a number of female family members & friends about these kinds of things and it makes them lol.

    face palm
  • truthzx95 2013/02/09 04:05:32
  • Papillon truthzx95 2013/02/23 19:05:29
    Papillon
    +1
    You say that as if there's any other kind of leftist...
  • truthzx95 Papillon 2013/02/25 22:20:46
    truthzx95
    point taken.
  • TXredhead 2013/02/08 22:32:54 (edited)
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    TXredhead
  • Sofahead 2013/02/08 21:25:23
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    Sofahead
    +1
    This is Politial Correctness run amuk. This has shades of 1984 to it.
    It isn't rational. It might be feel good to the overly sensitive feminists but all it really is doing is unnecessarily making communication complicated when people already understand word use as it conventionally been applied for decades.

    What an extraordinary waste of time & money and commonsense that it got serious consideration at all.
  • Papillon Sofahead 2013/02/23 19:07:30
    Papillon
    +1
    I can't see how anyone could think this kind of thing up and seriously talk about in public without being completely embarrassed.
  • donopolis 2013/02/08 21:25:18
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    donopolis
    +1
    Just a waste of time. Language evolves naturally you can't force it.
  • polock 2013/02/08 21:19:56
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    polock
    why do we need to change the language? if she wants to be a woman/man be a women or man and shut up. english is this way and will be for as long as we're here.
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