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Is the Death Penalty Necessary?

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California is putting another controversial measure on its ballot this year -- and you can expect to hear a lot more about it as it progresses. Activists collected 500,000 signatures to repeal the death penalty, a measure which would take 723 inmates off of death row and replace their sentence with life in prison. The death penalty is already off the table in 16 other states, and will soon be repealed in Connecticut.

The measure is significant in California because the state holds an enormous percentage of the nation's death row inmates (nearly a quarter, according to Yahoo! News). However, the state has only executed 13 people since 1976, compared to 481 executions in Texas. Activists argue that, regardless of moral issues, the state is spending billions of dollars on a system that rarely goes through with executions. Do you think the death penalty is necessary?

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  • RoseyRhod 2012/04/24 20:37:26
    No
    RoseyRhod
    +24
    I oppose the death penalty not because I feel that someone who acually committed a terrible crime deserves any mercy, but because there are cases in which I think people who were not actually guilty were put to death. Better that we should jail the scum for life than inadvertently put to death one innocent person. However, I don't believe that prisons should be as cushy as they currently are. Inmates should not be allowed to watch television or have porno magazines. They should have access to a library. They should also have to work, and they should be carefully watched at all times. I may disagree with Joe Arpaio on profiling, but I fully agree with him that inmates should not be coddled. If you do the crime, the time served should not be easy.

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  • JAA Aingean 2012/05/05 21:17:08 (edited)
    JAA
    I know what you are & what you are not from what you've told me. If you want me to believe something different, then do so; however, Christians do NOT get to pick & choose what they will & will not believe from the Bible, unless you do not love God & reject Jesus Christ. You either believe what it says, or you don't. The Bible is THE Holy Book, God-breathed. He said nothing in there about picking & choosing what we think is important & which we "don't agree with". If you do, it is apostasy, blasphemy, or there is a question as to whether you are truly a Christian. As to the latter, only you and God truly know the answer to that.

    And no, Catholics are WRONG in confessing their sins to their priest. The Bible does not say anything about confessing our sins before another human being.

    As far as when a person becomes a "Christian", either when they're 12, 25, 50, 80, or on their "death bed", only God knows their heart & only God can judge that.

    "For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whomsoever believes on Him should not perish, but have everlasting life." John 3:16

    You're welcome.
  • Aingean JAA 2012/05/06 13:00:27
    Aingean
    You can call me what you want. I could really care less what you think of me and what I believe. At least I am thinking for my self.
  • JAA Aingean 2012/05/06 13:39:59
    JAA
    Yes, I can see that you "could really care less", as that is why you continue to react to each of my comments. You're not even interested in knowing why you might just be wrong in your thinking, but you are interested in defending yourself, it seems.

    btw, I've called you no names. All I've said is that from what YOU HAVE STATED, it appears that you are not a Christian. You have given in to a false god, false Jesus, & your own religion through your piecemeal, cut & paste, of God's Word, the Bible.

    This is what God wants you to know . . .
    "But I am afraid that just as Eve was deceived by the serpent's cunning, your minds may somehow be led astray from your sincere and pure devotion to Christ. For if someone comes to you and preaches a Jesus other than the Jesus we preached, or if you receive a different spirit from the one you received, or a different gospel from the one you accepted, you put up with it easily enough."

    "For such men are false apostles, deceitful workmen, masquerading as apostles of Christ. And no wonder, for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light. It is not surprising, then, if his servants masquerade as servants of righteousness. Their end will be what their actions deserve." 2 Cor 11:3-4; 13-15

    I'm assuming that the above verses have been removed from ...

    &&&
    Yes, I can see that you "could really care less", as that is why you continue to react to each of my comments. You're not even interested in knowing why you might just be wrong in your thinking, but you are interested in defending yourself, it seems.

    btw, I've called you no names. All I've said is that from what YOU HAVE STATED, it appears that you are not a Christian. You have given in to a false god, false Jesus, & your own religion through your piecemeal, cut & paste, of God's Word, the Bible.

    This is what God wants you to know . . .
    "But I am afraid that just as Eve was deceived by the serpent's cunning, your minds may somehow be led astray from your sincere and pure devotion to Christ. For if someone comes to you and preaches a Jesus other than the Jesus we preached, or if you receive a different spirit from the one you received, or a different gospel from the one you accepted, you put up with it easily enough."

    "For such men are false apostles, deceitful workmen, masquerading as apostles of Christ. And no wonder, for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light. It is not surprising, then, if his servants masquerade as servants of righteousness. Their end will be what their actions deserve." 2 Cor 11:3-4; 13-15

    I'm assuming that the above verses have been removed from your little bible, too, right? I mean, it obviously won't fit in with the god you have made for yourself.

    So, feel free to move on. You're not obligated to read my posts or respond to them. I'm also not interested in wasting any more of my time on someone who will not give God an honest hearing, who has closed their mind to the truth. I will, however, pray for you. And yes, I know you didn't ask for that, but this is what I do through Jesus Christ, my Lord. God loves you & wants ALL of you, not just bits & pieces as you see fit. I love you, too, & don't want to see you suffer for making the wrong choices.
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  • Aingean JAA 2012/05/06 22:32:33
    Aingean
    lol I don't have my own "little Bible".
  • JAA Aingean 2012/05/06 22:56:41
    JAA
    Please, I ask that you do not respond to me again. You owe your explanations only to God. I believe our conversation has shown that it is not progressing past, "you did", "no I didn't", "you said, "no I didn't", "you believe", "no I don't".

    There's no place to go with this kind of back & forth. I hope you would agree & now back off. Thanks.
  • Aingean JAA 2012/05/08 01:18:36
    Aingean
    You are the one question me and my what I believe it is you that ought to back off me. If you didn't want me responding to you then you ought not have butted into a convesation between myself and another sodahead.
  • Cotton e KB 2012/04/27 13:35:44
    Cotton e
    +1
    Why is that? Do you think if everyone felt that way people who should not be on the streets would be running rampant? where does it say that God said keep blinders on when it comes to crimes that should be punished?
  • JAA KB 2012/05/02 23:10:58 (edited)
    JAA
    I'm a Christian that upholds Bible doctrine . . . separation of church & state, pro-choice, & "yes" on the death penalty. There's no inconsistencies where the Bible is concerned.
  • JAA Aingean 2012/05/02 23:13:45
    JAA
    Mine is with people saying they're Christians, but not believing the Bible. Mine is also self-righteous Christians who try to legislate morality or whom call women "murderers", "soulless" or "spawns of satan".
  • JAA KB 2012/05/09 02:16:34
    JAA
    God supports the death penalty. What, you think the God of the OT is different than the one of the NT? Do you think that divine institutions & establishments go away just because Jesus loved & saved the world from their personal sins? Do you not think that Jesus would agree that volitional responsibility (we reap what we sow) is valid?

    Let's just stay in the NT, shall we? . . .
    Regarding capital punishment & the Bible, "Then Jesus said to him [Peter], 'Put your sword back into its place, for all those who take up the sword [murder] shall perish by the sword [capital punishment]." Matt 26:52

    "But if you do what is evil, be afraid; for it does not bear the sword [capital punishment] for nothing; for it is a minister of God, an avenger [arbiter of justice] who brings wrath upon the one who practices evil. Wherefore it is necessary to be in subjection [to the authority], not only because of wrath, but also for conscience' sake." Rom 13:1-7.
  • JERSEYDUDE 2012/04/26 18:50:47
    No
    JERSEYDUDE
    +3
    nope its not necessary, its immoral, and many innocent people have been put to death accidentally
  • ThinkAb... JERSEYDUDE 2012/04/27 00:37:44
    ThinkAboutIt!
    Total Nonsense.
  • JERSEYDUDE ThinkAb... 2012/04/27 00:40:49
    JERSEYDUDE
    its 3 facts...get a clue you conservative moron
  • Centris... JERSEYDUDE 2012/04/27 03:51:09
    Centrist_Bill
    +2
    Jerseydude you need to understand SH is one of the biggest Neo-Con circle jerk sites on planet Earth. I swear that they hold their board meetings in AIRPORT BATHROOMS.
  • Cotton e Centris... 2012/04/27 13:39:05
    Cotton e
    funny!!!!
  • JERSEYDUDE Centris... 2012/04/27 17:20:26
    JERSEYDUDE
    yep ive noticed
  • Sadisticon Centris... 2012/05/01 20:17:31
    Sadisticon
    LOL...
  • JAA Centris... 2012/05/02 23:49:15
    JAA
    Even if SH is the "biggest Neo-Con circle jerk sites on planet Earth" (and you'd have an awful time proving it), it is no reason for you to return the jerk comment with one of your own, or release the hot air out of your own head. Seriously, when did adults start thinking it was okay to be so totally inhuman to each other?
  • Grammar... JERSEYDUDE 2012/04/29 14:26:53 (edited)
    Grammar Freak
    +1
    Neo-conservatives are not Conservatives.
  • Sadisticon ThinkAb... 2012/05/01 20:15:58
    Sadisticon
    That's right - the flawless judicial system is made of perfect individuals who have NEVER done anything erroneous EVER.
    That's right! -O.J.
  • JAA ThinkAb... 2012/05/02 23:46:29
    JAA
    Why? If you're going to give an opinion, you should at least back it up with something more than what even a village idiot could say. Of course, if you've nothing to base your opinion on, then just admit it like an adult & be on your way.
  • Cotton e JERSEYDUDE 2012/04/27 13:37:56
    Cotton e
    +1
    Innocent people have been charged and put to death so where does the line get drawn in the sand?
  • JERSEYDUDE Cotton e 2012/04/27 17:27:04 (edited)
    JERSEYDUDE
    +1
    obviously nowhere with you! who the hell do you think you are, God? you have no right to put anyone to death and murdering a murderer makes you no better than the murderer

    Better a thousand guilty men go free than one innocent be wrongly convicted
  • JAA JERSEYDUDE 2012/05/03 02:32:52
    JAA
    According to God, as a society, we certainly DO have a right to put a murderer to death. That would be tantamount to saying that the Islamofascists who "murdered" 3,000 citizens at the Twin Towers should not be found & killed. Is that what you're saying? Are you a pacifist? Do you hate our soldiers for killing? WHO ARE YOU???
  • JERSEYDUDE JAA 2012/05/03 02:47:42 (edited)
    JERSEYDUDE
    1) according to God THOU SHALL NOT KILL

    2) 911 was partly an inside job

    3) if i killed my family members murderer id go STRAIGHT JAIL!

    4) i dont hate our soldiers but i do not support them especially the ones that enjoy murder, kill innocent people, and rape women and children and NO the good ones do not make up for the bad apples sorry!



    heres your soldiers...just a few out of THOUSANDS doing these kinds of disgusting things





  • JAA JERSEYDUDE 2012/05/03 03:16:06
    JAA
    1) "Thou shalt not 'MURDER [lo tirtzach]'". God killed a LOT of people, so was He going against His own commandment? Shame on Him!!

    2) No proof, sorry. Crazies abound on conspiracy theories.

    3) If you killed one of them in self-defense, you'd be exonerated & you know it.

    4) You don't support our soldiers? Now, why does that not surprise me? Though immoral acts may be committed by individual soldiers, the underlying principle of national defense is not negated. Killing the enemy in combat is not sinful; "You shall not murder [lo tirtzach]" refers only to the criminal act of homicide, not taking the life of enemy soldiers in legitimate warfare.

    "Then Jesus said to Him [Peter]; 'Put your sword back into its place; for all those who take up the sword [refers to crime of homicide] shall perish by the sword [refers to capital punishment for that homicide]." Matt 26:52

    "But if you will not do so [not go to war], behold, you have sinned against the Lord, and be sure your sin [of cowardice] will find you out [personal & national repercussions]." Num 32:23

    "For rulers [government] are not a cause of fear for good behavior, but for evil. Do you want to have no fear of authority? Do what is good, and you will have praise from the same; for it is a minister of God to you for good. But i...
    1) "Thou shalt not 'MURDER [lo tirtzach]'". God killed a LOT of people, so was He going against His own commandment? Shame on Him!!

    2) No proof, sorry. Crazies abound on conspiracy theories.

    3) If you killed one of them in self-defense, you'd be exonerated & you know it.

    4) You don't support our soldiers? Now, why does that not surprise me? Though immoral acts may be committed by individual soldiers, the underlying principle of national defense is not negated. Killing the enemy in combat is not sinful; "You shall not murder [lo tirtzach]" refers only to the criminal act of homicide, not taking the life of enemy soldiers in legitimate warfare.

    "Then Jesus said to Him [Peter]; 'Put your sword back into its place; for all those who take up the sword [refers to crime of homicide] shall perish by the sword [refers to capital punishment for that homicide]." Matt 26:52

    "But if you will not do so [not go to war], behold, you have sinned against the Lord, and be sure your sin [of cowardice] will find you out [personal & national repercussions]." Num 32:23

    "For rulers [government] are not a cause of fear for good behavior, but for evil. Do you want to have no fear of authority? Do what is good, and you will have praise from the same; for it is a minister of God to you for good. But if you do what is evil, be afraid; for it does not bear the sword [capital punishment] for nothing; for it is a minister of God, an avenger [arbiter of justice] who brings wrath upon the one who practices evil; ..." Rom 13:1-7
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  • Sadisticon Cotton e 2012/05/01 20:20:10
    Sadisticon
    Okay, good - you're awake. We can't justify state-sanctioned killing if we are going to kill people without some damn good proof. We really, honestly must be certain in ways that are not yet invented that a person is truly guilty. You don't ever think you'll ever be in a situation where you're going to be wrongly convicted of anything, do you?
    .
    .
    Do you care that you might not be right?
  • JAA JERSEYDUDE 2012/05/02 23:43:27
    JAA
    What moral authority do you use to claim that the death penalty is "immoral"? Also, just because some innocent people have been "accidentally" put to death does not negate the death penalty as being a just penalty for murder. It only means that the prosecution & defenders need to do a better job at collecting or refuting evidence.
  • JERSEYDUDE JAA 2012/05/03 02:29:59 (edited)
    JERSEYDUDE
    thats funny....the barbarian who believes he has the right to put people to death asking me about morality....too funny!
  • JAA JERSEYDUDE 2012/05/03 02:33:32 (edited)
    JAA
    You don't believe in God, do you? I flagged you for your "Christian" name-calling. I hope you don't mind.
  • JAA JERSEYDUDE 2012/05/03 03:20:16 (edited)
    JAA
    thats funny.....the "Christian" who does not know the Bible (you never could answer my question, lol), also removed his filthy ad hominem to me .....So, that means I DO have a legitimate question to you about morality....too funny!
  • JERSEYDUDE JAA 2012/05/03 03:29:16
    JERSEYDUDE
    just because im Catholic doesnt mean i believe the bible because i dont and havent from a young age....im not like you who just believes what theyve been told whether its from the government or the bible
  • JAA JERSEYDUDE 2012/05/03 03:34:02 (edited)
    JAA
    Oh, okay, THAT explains it. The RCC isn't Christian, so you may not even be a Christian. That church & their leaders have a lot to answer to on Judgment Day. I am so sorry!!

    You certainly have not behaved as a Christian, so I must assume with what you've told me & the way you're behaving, that you truly are not a Christian & probably have never been. I mean, calling me names, insulting me, and being disrespectful to a woman.... My 4 brothers would have been whopped up the side of their heads by mom if they talked to a female like you have.

    btw, I'm a Bible scholar, which means I study the Bible extensively, via the original languages (Hebrew, Aramaic, & Koine Greek). You're so use to Catholicism that you probably didn't realize that there are many Christians who do not "just believe what they've been told". You're speaking mainly of Catholics, sorry.
  • JERSEYDUDE JAA 2012/05/03 03:43:17 (edited)
    JERSEYDUDE
    let me guess....youre the kind of warmongering Christian NEOCON who probably wanted Rick Santorum and would love a Christian Theocracy in America right ? piss off lady....i could care less who or what you are and this is 2012 not 4BCE
  • JAA JERSEYDUDE 2012/05/03 03:54:47 (edited)
    JAA
    Well, thank you, sweetheart. Let ME guess . . . you're the kind of Christian that God has "spewed" out of His mouth, right? Now, it is YOU that can go away, or I will flag you for stalking. Thanks in advance. (I will pray for you. Please, it's my pleasure, no need to thank me).
  • JAA 2012/04/26 18:50:36
    Yes
    JAA
    +2
    Yes, if it is used correctly. Why give someone the death penalty if we're going to just incarcerate them for 20 yrs while waiting on appeals. First, there needs to be a SOLID case (including DNA & other witnesses), & then there needs to be swift punishment. I'm not into killing "innocent" people, even if they're guilty of other crimes at the same time.
  • cheaperthantherapy 2012/04/26 18:21:55
  • JAA cheaper... 2012/04/26 19:04:06 (edited)
    JAA
    +2
    1) We're not looking to "bring back" the dead, nor should you care what progressive tree-huggers think about ANYTHING. So, moot point.
    2) It should be grueling, simply because there's a decision to kill another human being involved; however, the system needs to be revised to make it more efficient. I'm sorry that your family has to keep re-living the whole thing day after day after day.
    3) Again, the process/system needs to be streamlined so that punishment is not delayed over a year or two.
    4) It ought to send a message that if you murder or rape someone, you will DIE. There should be no mercy. MURDER is bad, KILLING (life for a life, self-defense) is good. Keep those two words separate in your mind.
    5) If you dwell on how many people were affected when your uncle was unmercifully murdered, for no good reason, then you can dwell on how many people are affected when their relative is killed for a REASON. Most families know they've got a black-sheep amongst them, if they're "good" people, & probably know that it's only a matter of time before the blackness catches up with them. If they're a "bad" family, then they probably need to suffer, also, for raising a spawn of satan. Clear your head, take a deep breath, & stop thinking like a bleeding-heart liberal for goodness sake!

    ...&

    &&&&
    1) We're not looking to "bring back" the dead, nor should you care what progressive tree-huggers think about ANYTHING. So, moot point.
    2) It should be grueling, simply because there's a decision to kill another human being involved; however, the system needs to be revised to make it more efficient. I'm sorry that your family has to keep re-living the whole thing day after day after day.
    3) Again, the process/system needs to be streamlined so that punishment is not delayed over a year or two.
    4) It ought to send a message that if you murder or rape someone, you will DIE. There should be no mercy. MURDER is bad, KILLING (life for a life, self-defense) is good. Keep those two words separate in your mind.
    5) If you dwell on how many people were affected when your uncle was unmercifully murdered, for no good reason, then you can dwell on how many people are affected when their relative is killed for a REASON. Most families know they've got a black-sheep amongst them, if they're "good" people, & probably know that it's only a matter of time before the blackness catches up with them. If they're a "bad" family, then they probably need to suffer, also, for raising a spawn of satan. Clear your head, take a deep breath, & stop thinking like a bleeding-heart liberal for goodness sake!

    If there is NO capitol punishment, you suffer every year at his parole hearings, so pushing for the death penalty may end it for you in 10-20 years, rather than the rest of your life. Make lemons out of lemonades & stop whining.

    btw, I AM very sorry for your loss & for what this is doing to you and your family, so don't think I'm being a callous so & so regarding your situation. There's a point where you've got to let stuff go, give it over to God, & move forward. Suffering & tragedy changes everyone, but it's up to you whether it destroys you or makes you a stronger person. Your choice.
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  • cheaper... JAA 2012/04/26 22:41:49
  • JAA cheaper... 2012/04/27 00:12:32 (edited)
    JAA
    "Killing is good" is a relative phrase. When comparing it to "murder", which is what I was doing, then killing IS good. Our soldiers have to "kill", & that is not "good", but is necessary. War is always horrible, but to deny that it is necessary is silly & immature. Defending ones' homestead with deadly force may sometimes be necessary, but it's not "good" in that it didn't have to happen if the perpetrator had not gotten it into his/her head to invade the privacy & territory of another citizen.

    I didn't say it was a "comfort" for a family to know they've got a black sheep amongst them. I basically said that it would not come as a surprise to the family when something terrible comes of the behaviors of the "bad sheep". We cannot let criminals go unpunished just because they have a family that may mourn their death or incarceration.

    You can refuse to condone something all you want, as it's your prerogative as a free citizen. Society should not have to support a murderer in prison for the remaining portion of their life. Unfortunately, our penal system takes too long from a guilty verdict until carrying out of the death penalty.

    Attempts to commit suicide is not normal, even for someone who has lost a loved one due to murder. I imagine your cousin is getting professional help...&

    &&&
    "Killing is good" is a relative phrase. When comparing it to "murder", which is what I was doing, then killing IS good. Our soldiers have to "kill", & that is not "good", but is necessary. War is always horrible, but to deny that it is necessary is silly & immature. Defending ones' homestead with deadly force may sometimes be necessary, but it's not "good" in that it didn't have to happen if the perpetrator had not gotten it into his/her head to invade the privacy & territory of another citizen.

    I didn't say it was a "comfort" for a family to know they've got a black sheep amongst them. I basically said that it would not come as a surprise to the family when something terrible comes of the behaviors of the "bad sheep". We cannot let criminals go unpunished just because they have a family that may mourn their death or incarceration.

    You can refuse to condone something all you want, as it's your prerogative as a free citizen. Society should not have to support a murderer in prison for the remaining portion of their life. Unfortunately, our penal system takes too long from a guilty verdict until carrying out of the death penalty.

    Attempts to commit suicide is not normal, even for someone who has lost a loved one due to murder. I imagine your cousin is getting professional help, and that's a good thing. The "bleeding heart" comment was taken very wrong by you, but that's understandable based on what you've said. I'm sorry that I can't say anything that will make you feel better. I'm in support of the death penalty & you are not. We'll have to agree to disagree, or you can go off half-cocked again.

    You ALWAYS have a choice as to how you handle life's ups and downs. Pain & suffering is a part of everyone's life, and it ALWAYS changes us, for the good or for the bad, but change it does. We have a CHOICE as to whether it will turn us into an embittered, angry, ball of emotional fluff, or a stronger, more compassionate, & wise, stable human being. You seem to primarily be emoting, without much thought. I don't discount your pain & suffering, but I can tell you from experience that if you don't get a handle on it, it will consume you. That's my advise from years of experience. Take it or leave it.
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