Is the Death Penalty Necessary?
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2012/04/24 20:00:00
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California is putting another controversial measure on its ballot this year -- and you can expect to hear a lot more about it as it progresses. Activists collected 500,000 signatures to repeal the death penalty, a measure which would take 723 inmates off of death row and replace their sentence with life in prison. The death penalty is already off the table in 16 other states, and will soon be repealed in Connecticut.
The measure is significant in California because the state holds an enormous percentage of the nation's death row inmates (nearly a quarter, according to Yahoo! News). However, the state has only executed 13 people since 1976, compared to 481 executions in Texas. Activists argue that, regardless of moral issues, the state is spending billions of dollars on a system that rarely goes through with executions. Do you think the death penalty is necessary?
The measure is significant in California because the state holds an enormous percentage of the nation's death row inmates (nearly a quarter, according to Yahoo! News). However, the state has only executed 13 people since 1976, compared to 481 executions in Texas. Activists argue that, regardless of moral issues, the state is spending billions of dollars on a system that rarely goes through with executions. Do you think the death penalty is necessary?
Top Opinion
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RoseyRhod 2012/04/24 20:37:26No
+24I oppose the death penalty not because I feel that someone who acually committed a terrible crime deserves any mercy, but because there are cases in which I think people who were not actually guilty were put to death. Better that we should jail the scum for life than inadvertently put to death one innocent person. However, I don't believe that prisons should be as cushy as they currently are. Inmates should not be allowed to watch television or have porno magazines. They should have access to a library. They should also have to work, and they should be carefully watched at all times. I may disagree with Joe Arpaio on profiling, but I fully agree with him that inmates should not be coddled. If you do the crime, the time served should not be easy.
I still struggle to see how, if we applied the logic that christ didn't come to save us from punishment, that children would not be stoned for disobedience or women for adultery. Merely because society's idea of crime has changed? That's not a good enough reason. So it must be, then, that christ has come to save us from the punishment of death, not necessarily the penalty for breaking the law.
You also forget there are circumstances where innocent people are executed. Should an innocent person die, what would happen then? Would the executor die for doing what he was told to? Would the judge die for making one wrong decision?
Fact is, God can always change people, and though a murder is a terrible thing, to say that person has forfeited his right to live and to apply that logic would have resulted in many great people never having the chance to do wonders for God, eg Nicky Cruz and Tony Anthony. That's why death can never have a place in the new covenant.
is to be put to death. The purpose of human government and rulers is to punish evil
doers.
Sharia does not see the accused as innocent until proven guilty
by a fair trial by an impartial jury
1 It was ordained by God. It has never been recinded.
2 The death of Jesus was to save us from spiritual death. It does not
save a murderer from physical death, (THE GUY'S NAME WAS BARRABAS, read your Crucifixion story again) even if he confesses to his sin and
even if he accepts Jesus as His Savior. The death of Jesus did not do
away with reaping what we sew.
God ordained "rulers" for the punishment of evil doers, not to set murderers free. Unfortunately our evil administration punishes the righteous, and rewards evil doers.
They are calling good evil, and evil good. But we have no one to blame
but ourselves, because we think we can sin and it is ok,since Christ "paid the
Price." We will find out that we can't pray for a crop failure. Justice will have
its way.
3 God ordained human government. He ordained that whoever murders another person
is to be put to death. The purpose of human government and rulers is to punish evil
doers.
So I say that this sounds like Sharia law, a system which takes harsh religious doctrine and makes law out of it and you reply with.
4.Not in the slightest.
Sharia does not see the accused as innocent until proven guilty
by a fair trial by an impartial jury
My questions are where should I not think that this sounds like Sharia and how do you know what happens in a Sharia court?
asked which one He should release, Jesus, who he obviously wanted to release, or Barabbas, who he knew deserved to die. This does not
contradict what I said. Jesus did not choose to die to save Barabbas
from physical death. He died to save all of us who Barabbas represented
spiritually, from spiritual death. Barabbas could have said and probably did,
that if Jesus doesn't die physically, I wll have to die physically. All of us
can say if Jesus had not died we would have to die spiritually.
Barabbas is one case, and can not be used to prove that Jesus died to save murderers from physical death. Jesus didn't even die to save Barabbas from
physical death, He died to save Barabbas from spiritual death. It just happened that Barabbas was saved from physical death by their custom. If that had not
been the year that Jesus was crucified, Barabbas would most likely have
been released anyway.
You are the one who needs to read Scripture more carefully, rather than twisting what it says.
And you can believe what you want to about Islamic Sharia Law, but
Islam does not give people that they already believe is guilty a fair trial
by a judge and an impartial jury.
Which "harsh religious doctrine" are you talking about that "Sharia makes
law out of" ?
Take a look at the history of Islam like the Mughals when they went into Asia and saw Hindu, Buddhist, and Jain idols with faces all over the place. If they didn't flat out destroy what they saw as graven images, they simply wiped off the faces as per their aniconic laws. The temples in Khajuraho are a perfect example of this taking Shahada seriously and with little compromise.
All religions except Christianity are wlorshipping false idols.
The last time we had a moratorium on the death penalty a freak by the name of Manson was allowed to live......... I wonder how much that has cost cash strapped California?
Who would want to spend the rest of their life locked up with a bunch of violent cons, with the very real possibility of being sodomized?
Also, let's not forget who is paying to keep them locked up for god-knows-how-long.
WHY ARGUE OVER WHETHER THE NEEDLE IS PROPERLY STERILIZED..
ACTUALLY THE MOST HUMANE METHOD OF EXECUTION IS BEHEADING..
BEFORE YOU ALL CRITICIZE THIS DO SOME RESEARCH.. I HAVE..
NO SPECIAL ROOM ,ITS ALL OVER IN 2 TENTHS OF A SECOND.. ..
EVEN AT 13 SECONDS ,ITS THE BEST WAY..
Alternately , keep on accumulating the dregs of society , packed in to small cages and wait for Old Age to kill them ( provided other prisoners don't kill each other first )
This is why I like Texas. Come to Texas and murder someone without considerable reason, and we murder you back. Though, I wish executions were cheaper: One buck shot shell to your face is assured death.
It’s pretty much the same people who wanted abortions legalized who want the DEATH PENALTY dropped, saying that our government murders these people. The truth of it is our government KILLS these people for the MURDERS that they committed. Seems these people care more for the MURDERER than for those MURDERED.
( Murder = taking innocent blood). The unlawful killing of one human being by another, esp. with malice aforethought. 1. To kill (a human being) unlawfully. 2. To mar or spoil by ineptness; mutilate.
A MURDERERS blood is NOT INNOCENT.
Kill: 1. a. To put to death; slay. b. To deprive of life. 2. a. To put an end to.
The killing of murderers is condoned by Yahweh for the protection of innocent people. Murder demonstrates the lack of respect for human life.
"If we execute murderers and there is in fact no deterrent effect, we have killed a bunch of murderers. If we fail to execute murderers, and doing so would in fact have deterred other murders, we have allowed the killing of a bunch of innocent victims. I would much rather risk the former. This, to me, is not a tough call."
John McAdams - Marquette University/Department of Political Science, on deterrence
The cost to tax payers is around $37,500.00 a year to keep a person on death row. When a per...
It’s pretty much the same people who wanted abortions legalized who want the DEATH PENALTY dropped, saying that our government murders these people. The truth of it is our government KILLS these people for the MURDERS that they committed. Seems these people care more for the MURDERER than for those MURDERED.
( Murder = taking innocent blood). The unlawful killing of one human being by another, esp. with malice aforethought. 1. To kill (a human being) unlawfully. 2. To mar or spoil by ineptness; mutilate.
A MURDERERS blood is NOT INNOCENT.
Kill: 1. a. To put to death; slay. b. To deprive of life. 2. a. To put an end to.
The killing of murderers is condoned by Yahweh for the protection of innocent people. Murder demonstrates the lack of respect for human life.
"If we execute murderers and there is in fact no deterrent effect, we have killed a bunch of murderers. If we fail to execute murderers, and doing so would in fact have deterred other murders, we have allowed the killing of a bunch of innocent victims. I would much rather risk the former. This, to me, is not a tough call."
John McAdams - Marquette University/Department of Political Science, on deterrence
The cost to tax payers is around $37,500.00 a year to keep a person on death row. When a person is found guilty of murder without any doubt they need to be executed the same day. If there is some doubt they need to be given life in prison until it is proven beyond a doubt, then put to death right away. Otherwise they stay on death row for a good 10 to 20 years. It’s a proven fact once a person has murdered someone it is easier the next time. Lethal Injection is the most humane way of executing a person, they literally go to sleep, without any pain whatsoever, not that they deserve death this easy. An executed murderer can never murder again, remember that. Every execution could be saving the life of one of your loved ones, or saving the life of someone elses.
Since 1977, over 900 people have been executed in the USA; there are currently around 3,500 men and women on death row across the country.
The U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops recently called on our political leaders to break that cycle of violence and “abandon the illusion that we can protect life by taking life. The use of the death penalty,” they said, “ought to be abandoned not only for what it does to those who are executed, but what it does to all society.”
Lethal Injection is the easiest way.
It must depend on who does the executions and for what reason.
Murderers take life in the most grusome ways, yet when it comes to their life, very few want to die.
Around 76% of violent criminals are Christian and most of these did not convert after their conviction, but were Christian when they did the crime. Many prisoners will try to use Christianity to get out of prison and once they do they go back to their old ways. There are people going around to all the churches trying to get Christians to get the death penalty dropped saying that these people can be saved????????
The most pitiful thing about all this is you hear so much about having pity for the murderers and very little about their victims and what they had to go through and the gruesome deaths they had to endure until their lives were ended. Hardly anything is said about the families and friends of the victims and what they have to go through daily for losing one of their loved ones.
You have to kill the wolves to protect the sheep. This goes for rapist and pedophiles too.