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Is Tax Avoidance an election issue?

JMCC 2012/08/19 10:16:21
Yes, it is a major political issue...
No, nothing to see here - move on...
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The increase of people using offshore tax havens to avoid paying taxes has contributed significantly to the fall in revenue to national governments. This loss in revenue has significantly increased the amount that governments need to borrow in order to provide essential services.

Do you believe that Tax Avoidance is an important election issue?
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  • ray 2012/08/19 11:33:39
    No, nothing to see here - move on...
    ray
    +8
    Excess taxation and irresponsible spending are the real issues .
    There hasn't been a Budget since Obama took office .
    Don't like there will ever be one until there is a new president .

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  • Red 2012/08/20 09:33:22
  • nightcrawler2005 2012/08/20 07:47:40
    No, nothing to see here - move on...
    nightcrawler2005
    I think your governments inability to promote business and create jobs is a hell of a lot more important than someone who socked a few bucks away in the Cayman Islands.
  • thefatguy 2012/08/20 03:57:56
    No, nothing to see here - move on...
    thefatguy
    +1
    Absolutely not. In fact, I encourage all Americans to avoid taxes if at all possible. There is no shame in keeping your own money and preventing the thieves in Washington from stealing it to line the pockets of themselves and their cronies.
    no taxes
  • Red thefatguy 2012/08/20 09:35:05
  • thefatguy Red 2012/08/20 14:27:58
    thefatguy
    Fair enough. Then, how about this idea? The politicians pass the tax laws; make THEM pay them! Whatever the tax rate is, it should apply double to politicians. They charge us 50%, they pay 100%. That's my notion of a fair tax.
  • Red thefatguy 2012/08/20 19:09:26
  • Dwight-AFCL>dogsbody 2012/08/20 03:37:59
    Yes, it is a major political issue...
    Dwight-AFCL>dogsbody
    +1
    The first who need to be punished are members of Congress who write those laws, and make use of them themselves.

    Some of them have been in Congress for two or three decades and they have been making laws that benefit themselves and their family, and their friends and donors.

    They should be punished first for making tax avoidance possible.
  • goatman112003 2012/08/20 01:03:44
    No, nothing to see here - move on...
    goatman112003
    +1
    The US Supreme Court ruled that tax avoidance is perfectly legal. You have no obligation to pay the maximum. Evasion they found to be illegal.
  • Informed Voter 2012/08/20 00:37:01
    None of the above
    Informed Voter
    +2
    Let's ask the 47 percent who don't pay taxes...
  • JMCC Informe... 2012/08/20 00:39:12
    JMCC
    That'll be the reason why those taxed at source are called "the squeezed middle" then...
  • Informe... JMCC 2012/08/20 00:45:27
    Informed Voter
    +1
    No, those who 47 percent who had received 100% of their federal tax withholding back, have NO SKIN in the game. If they're not paying a single dime, they don't deserve to excercise ANY rights in this country! How DARE they assume they can, when they receive ANY federal benefit on the backs of the 53 percent who actually PAY their taxes!

    "There is no part of the administration of government that requires extensive information and a thorough knowledge of the principles of political economy, so much as the business of taxation. The man who understands those principles best will be least likely to resort to oppressive expedients, or sacrifice any particular class of citizens to the procurement of revenue." - Alexander Hamilton, Federalist 35
    ref: http://www.foundingfathers.in...
  • T A Informe... 2012/08/20 05:21:16
    T A
    +1
    Because their rights are not bought or sold, but rather they are born free just as you. I suspect and hope you mean the "privileges" extended to them by those who take from others by force in order to purchase their votes, to which I agree. No one has the right to compel another to act on his behalf. That includes those who vote for others to force men who act peacefully to act in some other manner or to take from them what they do not willingly give.

    No one has the right to take property from another by force no matter what the reason they claim to take it. Needless to say they have no right to then divide it amongst others or spend it on anything without the consent of the individual from who it was taken by force. Rather it should be returned immediately to each individual with interest and penalties to be paid by the individuals responsible for taking it. This would apply to any money taken without the free-will consent of the individual. All moral individuals should insist on peaceful and voluntary interactions between any and all individuals. Compulsion and coercion on those who harm neither person nor property (through destruction, theft or trespass) has no place in a moral society.
  • Informe... T A 2012/08/20 19:47:17
    Informed Voter
    Voting is not a right, (I certainly don't see it in the Bill fo Rights or any other Amendment), it's a duty!!! And it's a duty I certainly PAID FOR!

    Remember that!
  • T A Informe... 2012/08/20 21:30:25
    T A
    I did not say voting was a right, nor would I. Nor is it a duty. It's simply a privilege one may exercise or not according to the dictate of his conscience. You may wish to take the ability to vote away from those who do not surrender their income to pay taxes for whatever reason and I would not argue until you use your vote to affect their lives through force. At that point you have made them an interested party and you may expect them to vote in their own defense (see Lysander Spooner, No Treason II) or rebel against you and those you have chosen to rule over them, fo paying taxes does not entitle you to a portion of their lives nor a say in how they live them. When you vote for a politician, you are choosing someone to rule over yourself and others. You are choosing to say that some stranger may tell other people what to do and that that stranger may compel them to hand him the fruits of his labor in order that, you hope, it will be used for those things you support (though in truth that is highly unlikely). To choose a ruler for another is a right you don't have no matter how much money you surrender by coercion or give voluntarily to any institution. It is simply a "privilege" you have been given because it is a more efficient means to keep the taxpaying individua...






    I did not say voting was a right, nor would I. Nor is it a duty. It's simply a privilege one may exercise or not according to the dictate of his conscience. You may wish to take the ability to vote away from those who do not surrender their income to pay taxes for whatever reason and I would not argue until you use your vote to affect their lives through force. At that point you have made them an interested party and you may expect them to vote in their own defense (see Lysander Spooner, No Treason II) or rebel against you and those you have chosen to rule over them, fo paying taxes does not entitle you to a portion of their lives nor a say in how they live them. When you vote for a politician, you are choosing someone to rule over yourself and others. You are choosing to say that some stranger may tell other people what to do and that that stranger may compel them to hand him the fruits of his labor in order that, you hope, it will be used for those things you support (though in truth that is highly unlikely). To choose a ruler for another is a right you don't have no matter how much money you surrender by coercion or give voluntarily to any institution. It is simply a "privilege" you have been given because it is a more efficient means to keep the taxpaying individuals compliant and productive.

    Neither the Bill of Rights nor the US Constitution define an individual's rights. They were not even intended to do so.

    _____________________________...
    Excerpted from No Treason II, Lysander Spooner, 1867:

    On the contrary, it is to be considered that, without his consent having ever been asked, a [*6] man finds himself environed by a government that he cannot resist; a government that forces him to pay money, render service, and forego the exercise of many of his natural rights, under peril of weighty punishments. He sees, too, that other men practise this tyranny over him by the use of the ballot. He sees further that, if he will but use the ballot himself, he has some chance of relieving himself from this tyranny of others, by subjecting them to his own. In short, be finds himself, without his consent, so situated that, if he use the ballot, he may become a master; if he does not use it, he must become a slave. And he has no other alternative than these two. In self-defence, he attempts the former. His case is analogous to that of a man who has been forced into battle, where he must either kill others, or be killed himself. Because, to save his own life in battle, a man attempts to take the lives of his opponents, it is not to be inferred that the battle is one of his own choosing. Neither in contests with the ballot --- which is a mere substitute for a bullet --- because, as his only chance of self-preservation, a man uses a ballot, is it to be inferred that the contest is one into which he voluntarily entered; that he voluntarily set up all his own natural rights, as a stake against those of others, to be lost or won by the mere power of numbers. On the contrary, it is to be considered that, in an exigency, into which he had been forced by others, and in which no other means of self-defence offered, he, as a matter of necessity, used the only one that was left to him.
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  • Anonymouse BN-0 ~bibbityboo~ 2012/08/20 00:14:14
    None of the above
    Anonymouse BN-0 ~bibbityboo~
    +1
    I can't blame them, look at how high taxes are... Income taxes and sales taxes always hurt the rich less than everyone else, which is why we should get rid of most of them.
  • beachbum 2012/08/19 23:08:36
    No, nothing to see here - move on...
    beachbum
    +1
    Diversion tactic. There's not been a budget during Obama's tenure - THAT should be an election issue.
  • NoBama Man 2012/08/19 22:58:16
    Yes, it is a major political issue...
    NoBama Man
    +3
    Yes it's a huge ethical issue...however if you are smart enough to protect your investments and capital legally...I don't see a problem... if you don't like what they are doing make it illegal...then you have an issue...

    but it NEVER seems to be an issue for this group for some reason...

    tax cheats

    and for tax cheat Timmy....you know...the Sec. of Treasure to tell the people that he used Turbo Tax...and the program made a mistake... coincidentally in his favor...is an insult to OUR intelligence, and an indictment to his....

    tax cheat timmmy
  • none 2012/08/19 22:56:38
    No, nothing to see here - move on...
    none
    +2
    Every American does their best to pay the least amount of tax they possibly can, what's the big deal.??
  • TuringsChild 2012/08/19 21:59:58
    No, nothing to see here - move on...
    TuringsChild
    +2
    People have been trying to avoid taxes since there WERE taxes. Obama is simply attempting to capitalize on the politics of Greed and Envy. And considering that the Presidency MADE him a millionaire, I'd say that's hypocritical at the very least.
  • DJL 2012/08/19 21:42:48
    None of the above
    DJL
    +2
    The top 20% of the tax payers already pay 2/3's of all the federal income taxes. The next 60% pay the other 1/3. The bottom 20% pay nothing. It is BS when anyone says that the rich do not pay their fair share because the truth is they pay more than three times their fair share.
  • JMCC DJL 2012/08/19 21:44:54
    JMCC
    +1
    But then the top 20% account for 98% of the wealth. so how is that fair?
  • DJL JMCC 2012/08/19 21:58:24 (edited)
    DJL
    +3
    It is income tax not a wealth tax. The top 20% are the only ones paying their fair share and and the liberals still want them to pay more so even more of them can live off of those that do pay.
  • JMCC DJL 2012/08/19 22:00:30
    JMCC
    How is it fair that they pay 0-13% on their income when those who are taxed at source pay 28-35%?
  • DJL JMCC 2012/08/19 22:21:30
    DJL
    +2
    That is BS. 46% have enough deductions that they pay no federal inome taxes. No one but the top tax bracket pays 35%. You lie.
  • JMCC DJL 2012/08/19 22:24:31
    JMCC
    'Fraid not, i used to work as an analyst for Zurich mercantile bank...
  • DJL JMCC 2012/08/19 22:38:25
    DJL
    +1
    What does that have to do with US taxes. You still are a liar.
  • JMCC DJL 2012/08/19 22:41:21
    JMCC
    I do not lie - sorry if the truth is inconvenient to your position.
  • DJL JMCC 2012/08/20 01:18:18
    DJL
    +1
    You said low and middle income people pay 30% of their income in federal taxes. That is a lie.
  • JMCC DJL 2012/08/20 01:24:30
    JMCC
    Review my answers and you will see that I said between 28 and 35%.

    If this is not correct, then I apologise for my inaccuracy, but it still was not a lie.
  • DJL JMCC 2012/08/20 01:40:28
    DJL
    +1
    So you are just clueless?
  • JMCC DJL 2012/08/20 01:43:16
    JMCC
    No, just misinformed if that was inaccurate.

    Might I point out that you too were unable to accurately report something that had passed your eyes only moments before?
  • DJL JMCC 2012/08/20 04:18:57
    DJL
    I can provide proof of what I said. I don't spread lies like you liberals do.
  • JMCC DJL 2012/08/20 08:22:58 (edited)
    JMCC
    Firstly I am not Liberal, I am nonpartisan.

    Secondly, they say "manners maketh man" - be one.

    Lastly, from your attitude, I don't believe you are going to trust a word that I say as you have not even done me the courtesy of reading my words correctly, so why not do some real research for once and look it up yourself, instead of regurgitating the opinions of others?
  • Dwight-... JMCC 2012/08/20 03:42:40
    Dwight-AFCL>dogsbody
    Most of that is the different tax rates between Earned Income and Investment Income.

    But the true problem is with the government, our Congress, who wrote those laws and decided the rates and make avoidance possible.
  • Crypt_Heart 2012/08/19 18:06:11
    Yes, it is a major political issue...
    Crypt_Heart
    +2
    Tax evasion is probably a bigger issue.
  • jackolantyrn356 2012/08/19 16:38:11
    None of the above
    jackolantyrn356
    +1
    I would say that since Obama has been the only Law giver these past 4 years due to the Democrat's Senate refusing to draw up a budget All the evil; things of this past 4 years are Obama's fault;t. Check his pockets for stolen money before sending him back to Kenya
  • Dwight-... jackola... 2012/08/20 03:44:28
    Dwight-AFCL>dogsbody
    Hear, hear!!! Well said, sir!
  • Pedro Doller ~POTL-PWCM~JLA 2012/08/19 15:45:46
    No, nothing to see here - move on...
    Pedro Doller ~POTL-PWCM~JLA
    +3
    If Tax avoidance is really the issue, then shut down the Joe Bidden State of Delaware. Delaware is the largest tax shelter in the World.
  • Rick 2012/08/19 15:12:12
    Yes, it is a major political issue...
    Rick
    +3
    Yes but everybody needs to pay their fair share and I mean everybody! I don't care if you 1000.00 you need to pay because you have access to everything there is to offer and a U.S. Citizen. Period!!!
  • Elaine Magliacane 2012/08/19 14:44:39
    No, nothing to see here - move on...
    Elaine Magliacane
    +4
    No... just Democrats trying to distract people from their Communist Candidate and his RECORD

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