Jobs will be created where the least problems are presented to the job creators.
If unions are so great, why has most of Boeing's jobs left the Seattle area?
If unions are so great, why does Detroit look like a ghost town?
Is Right-to-Work: Protecting workers or UNION-Busting??!!
BlueRepublican
2012/06/11 15:51:31
There are 22 states that have adopted Right to work legislation.Is it about giving workers the liberty and freedom to work without being forced into an undesired association or union? Is it a blatant attack against the middle class and worker's rights as some claim? Is it just a political strategy to defund the other side or is it simply a matter of giving people more choices?
Are Right-to-work promoters trying to bust up the unions, destroy the middle class and hurt workers? Should workers really be forced to join a union in some places just to be able to WORK?
Like it or not, right-to-work is catching on and gaining more and more national attention. Let me know what you think.
Is Right-to-Work: Protecting workers or UNION-Busting??!!

Are Right-to-work promoters trying to bust up the unions, destroy the middle class and hurt workers? Should workers really be forced to join a union in some places just to be able to WORK?
Like it or not, right-to-work is catching on and gaining more and more national attention. Let me know what you think.
Is Right-to-Work: Protecting workers or UNION-Busting??!!

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JoeM 2012/06/11 16:10:41Protecting Workers-RTW





















Secondly, as long as there is a CBA in place, it forbids Union employees from striking, so I don't know where you got that idea.
Your particular situation is very far from the norm. You are a guy who makes a six figure salary, so you are not like the average factory worker. Your company may have been great, and there are some who do treat their people well, and share the profits with them, but there are far more others who refuse to share any of the wealth, and that's why we are in the situation we are in today. Look at the gap between what the people at the top of corporations make, and what the average worker makes now, and compare it to 30 years ago, when Union representation was much stronger. If you want to buy into the right wing media propaganda that Unions are the cause of all of our problems, then be my guest.
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Secondly, as long as there is a CBA in place, it forbids Union employees from striking, so I don't know where you got that idea.
Your particular situation is very far from the norm. You are a guy who makes a six figure salary, so you are not like the average factory worker. Your company may have been great, and there are some who do treat their people well, and share the profits with them, but there are far more others who refuse to share any of the wealth, and that's why we are in the situation we are in today. Look at the gap between what the people at the top of corporations make, and what the average worker makes now, and compare it to 30 years ago, when Union representation was much stronger. If you want to buy into the right wing media propaganda that Unions are the cause of all of our problems, then be my guest.
Only a small percentage of the American workforce is Union, but they still send our manufacturing jobs overseas, and have been for a long time.
Answer me this question:
If Unions are the problem, why aren't all of these companies manufacturing their goods in the so called "Right to Work" States instead of China and India?
The second point needs some clarification. The particular job that I was referring to were jobs that were won by union contracts. We were non-union and were installing specialized equipment. The client was told that if non-union workers entered the building that they union workers would shut down the construction site.
I'm not sure that I would say my situation was "far from the norm". There are five major medical xray companies doing business in the US and all have field service structures that are similar. Years ago I lived in Rochester, NY where Kodak had thousands of employee who were all non-union, as did Xerox. I've just never been interested in letting someone else bargain with my employer to determine my pay or benefits. Just my personal opinion. Have a great weekend.
By saying that your situation is far from the norm, I mean that you are obviously a highly specialized and skilled individual, who has the ability to negotiate directly with a client. The average working class American really doesn't have that ability, and is fearful of approaching management because they are considered to be no better than cattle by the Corporations. There is only strength in numbers for them, and that's why they organize.
I grew up a block down the street from a manufacturing plant owned by a big Pharma company(Wyeth Labs). It was the main employer for our town.They were non-union, and they paid well, and paid good benefits, and almost everyone in town worked there, including ...
By saying that your situation is far from the norm, I mean that you are obviously a highly specialized and skilled individual, who has the ability to negotiate directly with a client. The average working class American really doesn't have that ability, and is fearful of approaching management because they are considered to be no better than cattle by the Corporations. There is only strength in numbers for them, and that's why they organize.
I grew up a block down the street from a manufacturing plant owned by a big Pharma company(Wyeth Labs). It was the main employer for our town.They were non-union, and they paid well, and paid good benefits, and almost everyone in town worked there, including my Father. They paid well, but they could be quite abusive at times, including forced overtime without notice. Every time the employees talked about organizing, they would threaten to move the jobs to Puerto Rico. Eventually, the employees were scared off from organizing and things would return to normal. This went on for the life of the facility. After all those years of non-union workers devoting their lives to the company, who made Billions of dollars in profits from the fruits of their labor, they moved the jobs to Puerto Rico anyway. Have a great weekend.
Of course, either way it would require available jobs and I don't know about other places but it's dead around here.
Should you be forced to pay for a college degree or buy specific clothing?
The reasons unions were created still exist. It's a systemic problem of capitalism. It automatically creates an adversarial relationship between management and labor.
Without unions there would be no such thing as overtime pay, a 40 hr wk., workman's comp or paid vacation.
The only way I can think of that would improve the situation is if labor gets a piece of the action and a say in company decisions. In essence I think the employees should be the stock holders
I don't understand why we demand democracy everywhere except where we spend most of our time.
We do have some union employee's--the good ones will outwork anyone, and never get laid off.