Is religion an effective way of fighting corruption in the Government?

what a challenge Mr ambassador?

I believe the clergy committe in your country is bunkrupt itself ! made up of some type of business advisors who do want to see certain policies being implemented regardless of good religious principals and practices or moral code ?

for example :
I listened to Frinklin Graham and i knew his principals, and this is the huge propblem that lead to all sort of problems !!. A bunkrupt and hypocrite clergy man running a business and making profit using religion as tool not as positive means to acheive transparency and clarity in policy making .

how can people such as these be elected in the first place to be on board of clergy ?

day by day , it becomes clear that those who rule are big co-orporate firms, they exist for profit and power and nothing else , ethics and morality and religion does not exist for them , but suddely they may use it and mould it to suit their need and achieve their goals.

just imagine a clergy in the church claim to be leading the mass and an advisor to the president saying to war department : ''''this is the prophecy , go and invade this country ? ''''' the same cleargy man go to a firm that sell arms and advise them saying : '''God bless if you supply arm to war department and generals to defend ourselves in order to fulfil the prophecy'''' , the same cleargy will go to big media co-orporate .... and on and on and on ....
how much do you think that cleargy man can make from these dealings?

it is a powerful and very sensitive and lucrative position ,

Now when these cleargy reach this position , they do not look at what is wrong and what is bad ? but they will look and think as collective thinking with other bodies , therfore , using bribery and special consideration become normal activity .

these activities of these cleargy should be based on justice , based on morality, based on assessing the damage and minimise it and calculating the good and increasing it ?

and this is what religion does , it helps government to be balanced ..

unfortunately, the cleargy men take their religion as business but not as means to reduce bunkrupcy ?

to be honest , to have a good cleargy committe to be in position to advise politicians, this need the whole structure,and filtering
but it won't happen ! otherwise a war within will break for sure

greeting

are you suggesting Mr Ambassador to keep religion away from government and politics?

hang on a minute !

we know for very long time that these '''delusionals''' as you put it , have been infilterating civil authorities gradually and with exceptional talent.

take the education as the source of knowledge and bringing future generation ,

they teach religion , but do they teach it as a way how to rule and help the rulers to govern ? or they use it just for spiritual concept and how to help the society in benevolent way and nothing else ? and who devise these coruculum? and who decide what should be thought? very complex phenomeon

In Israel for example, they implement sharia jewish law in their politics( i mean the religious one ) , but funny enough , even the some jewish atheists sometimes agree with them !!! while in other religions, they educate people not to use religion in politics? why is that ?

yes , richness , elites , art , foundtion trust , legacy of ancestors , groups like Aipac , and others .... all those and more are known to have used religion for political reasons.

what is really sad ambassador is the army , instead of having an army discipline , have morality , be able to distinguish between good and bad , an army who is loyal to the country to defend it, not to be used to conquer, very sad to see in the rank of the army some general clergy carrying the bible in one hand and they are in another land which is not theirs !! and they can't say why or what we are doing ?

and this is not only happeing in your country by the way , but elsewhere .

take the syrian army for example, the amount of atrocities they have committed and still committing are beyond imagination . how do you explain some clergy in bashar government supporting them ? and advising and clapping hands for that ruthless regime ?

ins't that a total collapse in morality and basic humanity or belonging to a tribe and fighting for it , the rest will go to hell ?

these clergy partles are responsible for all chaos and problems .a complete system that have mutual interest mong themselves .

having said that , if we have a good clergy men that support goodness, be as monitoring and be balance power and upright , we definitely could have a good government where its members will not dare to cheat or make decisions that is devastating for the country .. the history has talked about this type of cleargy men and their names have been written in history as good people .

so balance between good cleargy men and politician will generate good policy making mechanism and limit to certain extend corruption .
do you agree ?

Spreading Islam is the best thing that happened to human being in this planet .
nations used to live in dark ages following paganism and the powerful always dominated, like living in wild forest, the stronger eat the weakest without mercy , Sanity and Hygene were very poor to the point where we read in history that in Europe for example, if someone had tooth ache, they used to mix excrement with honey and put it as form of toothpaste !! and if it happened to walk in the street of a village , a bocke full or unrine could be your shower , being poored from the windows !!! ect...ect it was horrible slavery where femeles were looked as having devil soul ...

at that time , 1432 years Islam learnt human right to humanity , to be kind to animals , to treat your nerighbors, to do good , to be roghtous , not to cheat , to be clean and organise the life in best manner introducing the system of welfare and endowment...ect ...ect ...

talking about recent event, vests,...murder children .....desire to kill ...

this type of idoelogy is no longer working , because now everyone know how many muslims have been killed in iraq and afghanistan and elswhere... and everyone know the drones and what it does killing kids , and what happened in the holy land where more than 500 kids killed in 8 days ? and now you try to convince us and blame Islam ?

Islam is not a choice ? it is a life , it ls the requirement to go to paradise, it is the behaviour that help top know the purpose of life and how to be a good person in this life living to do justice and benefit other human being , not to built balestic messiles , or have 200 nuclear bomb or have warships or invading other countries or exploiting the poverty and stealing the resources of other countries ...

Islam ambassador, is the solution to0 all problem of mankind ..

and the beauty of Islam is we do not oppose it to anyone or force it or use islam for political agenda .

and finally do not bring me next time some extreme isolated cases where mutilating taken places and generalise ,..

take any muslim country and bring me statistic where mutilation is more than 000.01...

i can do the same , one lady was raped in the street of New york in broadaylight ? do you want me to blame all chritians or jews or catholic in USA?
this game is over now.

you just have to admit that some clergy in western civilisation are corrupt and child molesters and they have raped kids when they were in boarding schools in Italy and usa and elsewhere..and there is evidence of this ..

your claim that your civilisation is superior than Muslims undermining muslims their outstanding legacy in many fields science , astronomy , architecture, medecine , algebra and so on .... is not fair and comes from ignorance .

i understand that , it is your right to say that , but to blame islam as a tool for decline in muslim world is wrong .

i will give you an example , look that ruthless dictator Bashar of syria the alawite sect ! who put them there 40 years ago ? isnt' it France ? how many they have killed 15.000 including babies as 8 month ?
the ousted dying Mubarak ? the running away like a rat ben Ali who stole 100 billion ? the burnt face Saleh ! and others ? who was benefiting from their corrupted policies a long time especially the killed one Gaddafi where only his fortune equal the GDP of whole Europe , besides years of cheap oil ? and that dictator left his people poor for 35 years ?

who divided othman empire ! and marked border between islamic nation to rule and devide ? asnt' it sais and boko ? and on and on and on ... and who occupy holly land and made a huge advance military base in the middle east and they called it Israel , they have just killed 6 yesterday for no reason ! and want to destroy more than 300 houses and expet their habitants . ?

i am not blaming only the west and foriegner interference fuelling trouble like in iraq between shia and sunni or in pakistan and elswhere .. ---- and do not tell me this is rant --- this is history , these are facts.

one thing to remember , is do not blame islam but blame muslims, that's ok .
you have to distinguish between islam and muslims .

and thanks for being honest , that by 1432 they had cleaned thing up , well they learnt this form muslims ,, for example , in london they used to throw dead bodies on the river or burnt them or prision people who have mental problem .. some elite went to muslim land in baghdad and learnt how to be clean, they also learn math and not to kill anyone who say the planet is round . they learn how to look after animals and babies ....
now all western modernisation is based on muslim one .

but one thing that western have not progressed at all , but stayed backward is behaviour and morallity ..

too much porno, too much pervert. too much gay, too much crime , too much cheating , too much drinkers , too much lying , too much hypocricy and double standard, too much gambling , too much family break up ... and on and on and on

now there is a revolution and still in the beginning

The Muslim countries were leaders in culture, science, and other worthwhile pursuits for centuries. They build great cities and empires, certainly were admirable. What happened to them? Why are they today crumbling wastelands, without electricity, some without clean water or decent food, and many without medical facilities or schools for their children. Why?

You can't blame Western nations for the likes of the Ayatollahs and other religious leaders who have led the destruction, the wars against other sects of their religions, or the ruthless dictators that the religious and military have allowed to rule. Iran today is a good example of a culture capable of greatness, yet is ruled by a lurking bunch of religious radicals and a puppet civil authority, wasting their resources on a quest for another means of killing those who differ from themselves, and daring the rest of the world to blow them into the presence of 70 virgins and leave them with an immense pile of rubble that once was their civilization. They announce their madness even before they have the means to exercise it, which is not unnoticed and will lead to their destruction. For what? Why?
Not one sane reason can be found for their self destruction.

Back of the decline is the presence of religious zealots, those who have burned the textbooks and substituted the Koran for all that is so badly needed - educations of the young. That will have only one end for them, and it isn't a good story.

You do describe many of the obvious weaknesses and corruptions of Western cultures, and I agree with most all of your analysis. But, in spite of these festering sores in our body,
we are stronger, more productive, progressing in most every way that your world is not. Christianity has failed to stem the tide of filth and corruption in our world, and, in fact, has allowed itself to become infected with the greed and deceit that give birth to such moral crimes. That only proves that all religions are nothing short of corruptions and dangerous delusions, all claiming to be beneficial and helpful, which none are.