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  • U-Dog 2012/06/15 01:37:11
    no
    U-Dog
    +5
    Sure the economy was down when Obama took office but if Obama's economic failures are all Bush's fault then why did Obama come into office promising low unemployment and to cut the deficit in half in his first four years? Was Obama blowing smoke out his azz then or blowing smoke now or both? Did it really take the geniuses 3 1/2 years just to figure out they didn't know what they were doing, so somehow, it must be all Bush's fault?

    And other than Obaby, what President of the United States of America has ever gone so far out of their way to pass the buck and blame a prior administration...NONE!

    And if "The private sector if doing just fine" why is this putzident blaming Bush at all and not taking credit for it?

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  • Scandalf 2012/08/08 08:15:41
    no
    Scandalf
    In all honesty I think the Global recession has other causes (not even Obama).
  • Bronar 2012/07/16 14:38:35
    no
    Bronar
    No more than all the other politicians who forced the banks to make loans to people who had no ability to pay them off during even a slight downturn.
  • Stryder 2012/07/14 18:32:25
    no
    Stryder
    +1
    He was far from perfect, but this trainwreck's on Obama.
  • relic 2012/07/14 18:25:27
    no
    relic
    +2
    The downturn started under Bush ...when the Democrats took over both houses 03 January 2007.
  • Odinsown 2012/07/14 15:01:38
    no
    Odinsown
    Keynesian economics are to blame, for the past 80 some years both parties have been economic interventionist all based on the false assumption that the new deal fixed the depression, when in reality it extended the depression, it was Americans coming home from wwii and opening businesses, hiring people, and working hard that pulled us out.
  • TheTruth1313 2012/07/14 06:52:40
    no
    TheTruth1313
    +1
    Not any more. This is now and completely on Odumba. And let's not forget about the Dem majority congress during Bush's second term.
  • ~HopelessRomanticM17~ 2012/07/14 05:26:56
    yes
    ~HopelessRomanticM17~
    For some things yes.
  • Ken 2012/07/14 04:22:10
    no
    Ken
    To blame for what?

    Did President Bush take individuals from private sector jobs and put them to work for the government? Yes specifically approximately 1% of the US workforce, National Guard and military reserve members, were called up for active duty. The last time I checked active duty is a government job.

    Did President Bush increase US demand for goods and services after reducing the private sector workforce by 1%? Yes ... specifically the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq increased demand for military hardware and supplies, the tax cuts increased domestic demand by putting more money in consumers' pockets.

    Did these policies increase the US deficit? Yes....when President Bush took office the federal government had a budget surplus which became a deficit within four years.

    Did President Bush increase the size of federal government? Yes ... under President Bush, federal spending increased by 64% while under Clinton federal spending increased by < 30%.

    Although these things happened during the Bush administration, they were not his fault because as commander in chief, he was not responsible for the federal government. He was clearly not qualified and therefore cannot be held personally responsible for these disastrous results.
  • Stryder Ken 2012/07/14 18:33:53
    Stryder
    +2
    When President Bush took office the Twin Towers were still standing. He brought our economy back from THAT.
  • Ken Stryder 2012/07/15 00:09:20
    Ken
    Oh ... so that is why we started a war and cut taxes? We hire the president to make the hard choices. Deciding on whether to go to war (guns) or cut taxes (butter) was a hard choice. Choosing guns and butter is not a hard choice but it is a stupid one as generations have either known or learned.
  • KarenInKenoshaWisconsin 2012/07/14 03:56:25
    yes
    KarenInKenoshaWisconsin
    But...


    The U.S. problem goes far beyond which party or president to blame, though all are accountable still. We're dealing with corporatism. Our politicians are bought and lobbyists write huge portions of bills.

    More importantly, we’re dealing with financialization that worships leverage and division that herds us toward uber polarized debates and camps (commies vs. God-fearing, Conservatives vs. liberals, black vs. white, capitalists vs. socialists, this monotheism vs. that monotheism...). Meanwhile, everything gets too entirely based on the (often overly and oddly subsidized) business model, even our public schools. Financialization is all about putting placing leverage above all else -- "winning" become everything even if everyone loses.

    First, it's a cultural problem with some political elements (budget cuts just before and even more during Reagan's time in office) and begins in the arts, agriculture, and other sectors and eventually translates into economic failures in complex, convoluted ways. It then spreads in and out of our two major parties and through different presidencies and becomes a runaway political and economic engine. It's not some sudden phenomenon that only began with some market bubbles bursting, such as the dot com thing. It’s been oncoming since th...





    But...


    The U.S. problem goes far beyond which party or president to blame, though all are accountable still. We're dealing with corporatism. Our politicians are bought and lobbyists write huge portions of bills.

    More importantly, we’re dealing with financialization that worships leverage and division that herds us toward uber polarized debates and camps (commies vs. God-fearing, Conservatives vs. liberals, black vs. white, capitalists vs. socialists, this monotheism vs. that monotheism...). Meanwhile, everything gets too entirely based on the (often overly and oddly subsidized) business model, even our public schools. Financialization is all about putting placing leverage above all else -- "winning" become everything even if everyone loses.

    First, it's a cultural problem with some political elements (budget cuts just before and even more during Reagan's time in office) and begins in the arts, agriculture, and other sectors and eventually translates into economic failures in complex, convoluted ways. It then spreads in and out of our two major parties and through different presidencies and becomes a runaway political and economic engine. It's not some sudden phenomenon that only began with some market bubbles bursting, such as the dot com thing. It’s been oncoming since the 60s and 70s.

    Loosing touch started with us and the top 1 percent learned to capitalized on it, reinforce it, make it part of the predictive blueprint.

    It began as a cultural problem so a cultural movement will pull us out of it. Occupy is only a part of that. GOOH is part of that. But there’s more -- explore slow movements in this context.

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  • sammanilla 2012/07/14 03:49:05
    no
    sammanilla

    DAFUQ?
  • Dagon 2012/07/14 03:45:48
  • Red_Horse 2012/07/14 03:36:26
  • John Galt jr or Ron/jon 2012/07/14 03:19:25
  • Alvin 2012/07/01 03:15:44
    yes
    Alvin
    and anything else I say will just get the trolls and sock puppets out so I'll leave it at that.
  • Guru_T_Firefly 2012/06/15 14:38:17
    yes
    Guru_T_Firefly
    +2
    Most definitely so. Eight years of Bush's ineptitude and mismanagement are guaranteed to be tough to overcome.
  • ray Guru_T_... 2012/07/09 19:50:39
    ray
    +4
    It is too bad Obama is not even trying to overcome it. It took 8 years for Bush to increase the debt by 5 trillion, but Obama managed to increase the debt by 5 trillion in 3 years.
  • Guru_T_... ray 2012/07/10 12:55:32
    Guru_T_Firefly
    +2
    LOL! He's doing just fine. He'll get the second term he deserves. You guys have absolutely no one who can beat him in November.
  • ray Guru_T_... 2012/07/10 15:11:16 (edited)
    ray
    +3
    LOL He SUCKS. 5 trillion dollars in debt in 3 years? You LWNJs have absolutely no proof that he is a good president. Romney is better than Obama, so we do have someome. He may not do good, but he is a hell of a lot better than Obama.
  • Guru_T_... ray 2012/07/12 12:04:51
    Guru_T_Firefly
    +3
    He's doing great compared to what your Republican idiot would be doing right now. Romney would be the final nail in America's coffin. You hot-winded RWNJs have absolutely no proof that President Obama isn't a good president, all you have is your say so which really doesn't carry much weight these days. Why do you guys hate America so much, dim star?
  • ray Guru_T_... 2012/07/12 14:28:02
    ray
    +3
    No proof? Ok, now I'm sure you are a dumb ass. How about the 15 trillion debt and the 8.2% unemployment?Yeah, I have plenty of proof, now let's see yours.

    Why do you hate America, LWNJ? Or are you just retarded?
  • Guru_T_... ray 2012/07/12 18:16:20
    Guru_T_Firefly
    +2
    Sorry, Bray, but until you can provide actual facts and stop spreading that ridiculously-ignorant Republican propaganda around, you don't have a snowball's chance in hell of anyone believing you. Good luck getting others to accept your delusions.
  • ray Guru_T_... 2012/07/12 19:42:00
    ray
    +4
    Sorry dumb ass,but until you put facts on here I will beat you at every debate.
  • Guru_T_... ray 2012/07/13 12:16:18
    Guru_T_Firefly
    +2
    Not even in your dim little reality, dumbass. Good luck with your mental handicap.
  • ray Guru_T_... 2012/07/13 13:47:56
    ray
    +3
    I don't need luck because I'm a smart ass unlike you moron. Good luck with your mental disease, LWNJ.
  • Guru_T_... ray 2012/07/13 17:27:09 (edited)
    Guru_T_Firefly
    +2
    Whatever you say, litter box. You're the only one who believes you. You need luck just to keep people from wanting to bury you in the Fresh Step whenever they see you. Good luck finding your IQ. On second thought, after reading the way you tried to re-word my comment, I should probably wish you good luck if you're ever to come up with anything original to respond to this. Personally, I don't think you're up for it.


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  • ray Guru_T_... 2012/07/13 17:47:13 (edited)
    ray
    +3
    Wow, you really are a retard. Any one with the slightest bit of intelligence would beleieve me, which makes you a moron. "Only one who beleieves me" huh? Tell that to the millions of smart ass right wingers.

    I was mocking you retard, but I guess it takes some IQ, which is something you lack, to understand that

    Feel free to try again and make yourself look like an even bigger moron.

    HEY RETARD! JUST WANT TO LET YOU KNOW THAT I DID NOT BLOCK YOU. SODAHEADS DID BECAUSE OF YOUR INAPPROPRIATE INSULTS!
  • ray Guru_T_... 2012/07/14 18:54:06 (edited)
    ray
    HEY DUFUS! It's about time you unblocked me. Maybe now you can leave your innappropriate actions behind. You always are the first to insult and the first to use cuss words.

    Hopefully now you will use facts instead of you innappropriate and idiotic comments.
  • Guru_T_... ray 2012/07/16 02:39:57
    Guru_T_Firefly
    Hey inbred moron, it was your f*cking stupid actions that caused the intervention block, not anything that I did.
  • ray ray 2012/07/16 19:33:04
    ray
    Rufus T Firely. Just...wow. You say a completely innapropriate insult then block me. You are such a retarded coward "Rufus",
  • davyd g... Guru_T_... 2012/07/13 22:28:34
    davyd god loving patriot
    +2
    yea like we need nobama for four more years of lies and murder
  • Guru_T_... davyd g... 2012/07/14 03:01:24
    Guru_T_Firefly
    +1
    Better to have Obama than to have any of the GOP's Republican idiots. They''d set us back into the Dark Ages.
  • davyd g... Guru_T_... 2012/07/13 22:27:21
    davyd god loving patriot
    +2
    lol even Groucho would beat the communist
  • Guru_T_... davyd g... 2012/07/14 03:02:36
    Guru_T_Firefly
    +1
    Groucho would be laughing at your inferior intellect and I'm certain that he'd vote for Obama before he'd vote for one of your GOP idiots.
  • ray Guru_T_... 2012/07/14 18:55:40
    ray
    The GOP are a hell of a lot better than the idiot or jack ass democrats like Obama.
  • Guru_T_... ray 2012/07/16 02:39:56
    Guru_T_Firefly
    No, they're not actually. Ignorance like yours causes inbreeding amongst the Republican ranks. And that nearly always results in deformities like yours.
  • CAPISCE 2012/06/15 12:07:45
  • U-Dog 2012/06/15 01:37:11
    no
    U-Dog
    +5
    Sure the economy was down when Obama took office but if Obama's economic failures are all Bush's fault then why did Obama come into office promising low unemployment and to cut the deficit in half in his first four years? Was Obama blowing smoke out his azz then or blowing smoke now or both? Did it really take the geniuses 3 1/2 years just to figure out they didn't know what they were doing, so somehow, it must be all Bush's fault?

    And other than Obaby, what President of the United States of America has ever gone so far out of their way to pass the buck and blame a prior administration...NONE!

    And if "The private sector if doing just fine" why is this putzident blaming Bush at all and not taking credit for it?
  • DJPanicDC 2012/06/15 00:53:32
    no
    DJPanicDC
    +2
    yes and no really, every president played a part Bush did not help anything but I look at Regan and "trickle Down Economics" as the beginning and Clinton and NAFTA as the final nail in the coffin

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