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Is 'Predictive Policing' Helpful or Harmful to Society?

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Predictive policing uses algorithms to predict where crime will occur and sends extra law enforcement patrols into those neighborhoods. The police processes historical data through a computer program and determines "hot spots" based on modeling by social anthropologists.

Reason.com asks, "How might predictive policing interfere with the Constitution’s Fourth Amendment guarantee that Americans are to be free unreasonable searches and seizures?" Reason.com claims to provide an alternative to right-wing and left-wing opinions with its focus on liberty and individual choice. Ronald Bailey's article discusses the benefits (less crime, more efficient law enforcement) and costs (possible violation of Civil Rights?).

REASON.COM reports:
Predictive policing helps police protect citizens. It could also be used to oppress them.

Chart from Memphis Police Department’s Blue CRUSH initiative uses IBM predictive analytics software to analyze past and present crime records in seconds to create multi-layer “hot spots” and better deploy officers to combat crime.
Predictive Policing

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  • iamco2000 2012/07/14 02:39:38
    Harmful to Society
    iamco2000
    +11
    hmmm, slowly edge our way into an Orwellian nightmare shall we? Haven't we been told that slow, metered, indoctrination causes us to not notice societal changes or ask questions? 1920's Germany experienced the same thing....the gov. said "every self-respecting German citizen will be proud to register their guns", then when it became time for Hitler to bring the hammer down it was a piece of cake for the Gestapo and SS to round up....they'd already been given the addresses and names.

    Talk about a real-life acting out of the Minority Report, you might be arrested because an algorithm decided you would be, sorry but we have a Constitution that specifically and clearly states Innocent until PROVEN guilty, not suspect until preemptively apprehended.

    Talk about a sign of the times, what's next death sentences by self-aware "predictive enforcement" drones?

    Grace to you, Glory to God!

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  • Mj PINKYFINGERDOWN 2013/01/25 03:16:20
  • SKMarks 2012/10/21 17:38:32
    Helpful to Society
    SKMarks
    I had something very profound to say but the question answering drained it all away.
    Too many people still are suffering to the point they seemingly have no conscience of what is right or wrong this is why we need protection. When everyone learns how to take care of the less fortunate and the less fortunate learn how to keep their integrity, as the sons and daughters of God should have been from the beginning, then we wouldn't need police. As it is now they are going broke trying to stop too much crime. The Predictive Policing data analysis software is helping them keep up without having to hire more than they can afford to walk the streets.
  • P. Sturm 2012/09/13 22:24:18
    Helpful to Society
    P. Sturm
    However there needs to be an over watch, any technology is subject to abuse.
  • Wayne Barnes 2012/08/03 01:13:09
    Helpful to Society
    Wayne Barnes
    just think what it could have done in Colorado
  • Cynthia Wolf 2012/07/24 00:52:10
    Harmful to Society
    Cynthia Wolf
    Arm yourselves & be prepared bcuz ppl waiting on cops to save them often don't make it. I've known too many cops abuse their authority to hit on me, so no thank you. Let's lay them off first!!
  • wes 2012/07/20 20:37:31
    Helpful to Society
    wes
    Guess you could just wait for it to happen and then hope the police show up in time to catch them....that always works........really? Who minds if the police are around, usually criminals, and then nothing bad happens, isn't that the idea?
  • Buffalobill91 2012/07/19 20:53:37
    Harmful to Society
    Buffalobill91
    +2
    I can totally understand having a greater police presence in high-crime areas or installing cameras at certain intersections...but unfortunately this sounds more like something from Orwells 1984 or that Tom Cruise movie Minority Report---only using computers instead of 3 physics to say who is going to do what and where.Seems like nothing but a high- tech way to harass law abiding citizens and get away with it because the "computer said so".

    They say that this is a way to "better deploy officers to combat crime". It is almost laughable how misguided so many of the laws are in this country.

    -----how about trying this: start respecting the idea of individual freedom that this country was founded on and stop enacting stupid laws that do things like make prostitution or otherwise harmless drugs like marijuana illegal (yet allow special interests who pad politicians pockets like the pornography or alcohol industries to flourish<<---what a joke)

    All laws against victimless crimes do is CREATE crime and waste police resources and taxpayer money----- plus they breed other crimes associated with the profit from dealing in those black markets.Eliminate those stupid, brainless, non forward thinking, non-liberty respecting laws and YOU WILL HAVE PLENTY OF RESOURCES in your police departments to get after real criminals who are committing real crimes.... all without the help of complex algorithms.
  • Dimon 2012/07/18 21:47:26
    Harmful to Society
    Dimon
    +1
    Hello, 1984.
  • ivegotloveinmypants 2012/07/18 13:43:30
    Harmful to Society
    ivegotloveinmypants
    I appreciate that minorities seem to insist on committing more crimes, but this is inexplicable, and Im glad many people seem to think so too.
  • Lady Aiyanna 2012/07/18 10:53:02
    Helpful to Society
    Lady Aiyanna
    Its a good idea, although I feel that the people within the neightbourhood should be the ones who should be minding their own neighbourhood by watching the backs on their neighbours. While law enforcement teams are sent to these areas, there are times when crimes are taking place in the quietest of neighbourhoods and people are dying out there.
    We should probably have designated teams at all strata of society wherein everyone is aware that the law is taking care of them in a fair and just manner.
  • Anne 2012/07/18 03:41:17
    Harmful to Society
    Anne
    I have mixed feelings, but I can't help thinking "MINORITY REPORT." Perhaps it's best if we avoid this "predictive policing" concept if we can...
  • Rich Matarese 2012/07/18 00:43:32
    Helpful to Society
    Rich Matarese
    Damn. I checked "Helpful" when I fully intended to choose "Harmful."

    Consider that the police power is exerted by the armed thugs of civil government in the management of RETALIATORY lethal force as a deterrent against the retail (as opposed to government institutional wholesale) violation of the private citizen's rights to life, to liberty, and to property.

    They don't "prevent" anything before the fact, and that's not their role. Ever. This is why those government goons in uniform have "hold harmless" statutes to keep them from being sued for failure to fulfill some imaginary duty to protect us mere civilians against being robbed, raped, murdered, etc.

    Far better than "predictive policing" is Vermont carry.


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    "The great object is that every man be armed." [Patrick Henry]
  • Janice 2012/07/17 23:56:48
    Harmful to Society
    Janice
    This concept is patently unconstitutional, and will be immediately struck down by U.S. courts.
  • SteamTrunkDolly 2012/07/17 22:47:32
    Helpful to Society
    SteamTrunkDolly
    I would like to have another choice here! THIS IS NOT A BLACK & WHITE ISSUE, there are some gray areas.

    IN MANY RESPECTS I THINK THIS IS VERY GOOD... PREVENTING CRIME & SPENDING LESS TAX PAYER $ TO MAINTAIN POLICE FORCES, CATCHING THE 'BAD GUYS' IN THE ACT sort of speaking... HOWEVER, THERE'S A BIG POTENTIAL FOR ABUSE OF SOCIETY AS A WHOLE, in the sense that HISTORY TRULY DOES REPEAT IT'S-SELF, HAVING FEWER POLICE AVAILABLE THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE CITY IS VERY RISKY. AS IT IS, HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE FOR THE POLICE TO ANSWER AN EMERGENCY CALL, OR A DOMESTIC VIOLENCE CALL, LIVES ARE BEING LOST BECAUSE THE POLICE ARE GROUPED TOGETHER ON THE OTHER SIDE OF TOWN, JUST WAITING FOR BURGLAR’S TO HIT A 'WAREHOUSE'

    THIS IS NOT ABOUT BECOMING A POLICE STATE (LIKE NAZI’S in the 1940s), WE HAVE ALREADY BECOME A SOCIALIST SOCIETY... what we should be doing is, ALLOCATING MORE $ TO CLEAN-UP CRIME RIDDEN AREAS, which are USUALLY, GHETTO or INDUSTRIAL AREAS... LET BUSINESSES FOOT THE EXPENSE (FOR NON-TRAFFIC BUSINESSES such as warehouses etc. "can you say rent-a-cop") ... Everyone wants safety & protection of personal property... due to human nature, we need the police... & we do need to use them more wisely, this is a stab at that.
    IF ONE IS GOING TO CRITICIZE AN IDEA BASED ON 'UNFOUNDED FEARS' THEN THEY SHOULD A THE LEAST COME UP WITH A BETTER SOLUTION... I will support that!
  • Lou Bricano 2012/07/17 21:59:58
    Helpful to Society
    Lou Bricano
    Without knowing a) if it works at all, or b) exactly how it is used, how can anyone know with confidence if it is helpful or harmful? I tentatively vote "helpful", because technology /per se/ is neutral, and if this works and can be accompanied by the right controls, it would be beneficial. Note that there is no fourth amendment violation merely due to the presence of additional police in an area you happen to be in - police presence is not itself a search or seizure.
  • James Hoppe 2012/07/17 20:09:15
    Harmful to Society
    James Hoppe
    If used PROPERLY, something like this could be helpful. However I have ZERO confidence that this would not be abused. Queuecumber makes a good point, FIX the reasons for the increased crime in certain areas. Most likely, a lack of education and thus a lack of employment.
  • QC 2012/07/17 15:15:07
    Helpful to Society
    QC
    +1
    It is helpful, BUT it would be more helpful to identify problem areas and fix the underlying issues that cause the crime instead of simply attacking it with brute force....
  • Dave Ruble 2012/07/17 13:51:33
    Harmful to Society
    Dave Ruble
    +1
    The fact that this question is being posited should be scaring the wits out of any freedom-loving person.


    This is racial profiling for the human race.
  • Rdtourist 2012/07/17 12:39:33
    Helpful to Society
    Rdtourist
    OK with me, I tend to like the concept of putting police stations and response elements and such in areas of potential need, why would you only put response elements where they are rarely needed?

    Let's be perfectly equal, put police patrols only every other square block, from the suburban Forest Hills Cemetery to the New Orleans Projects, after all, predictive policing is SO "unfair" to those who are doing crime. Why on EARTH would you want the same response in low population centers as in packed low income strife ridden areas.
  • Matt Forrester 2012/07/17 12:24:33
    Helpful to Society
    Matt Forrester
    Hasn't anyone watched "Numb3rs" before?!!
  • debhead 2012/07/17 12:02:40
    Harmful to Society
    debhead
    I just foresee so many really bad consequences resulting from this type of procedure. I'm all for positive action reduce crime. Preferably finding jobs for people who have resorted to crime due to desperation. I don't see it being useful except to predict where street crimes occur. Everything else is too random.
  • beach bum 2012/07/17 10:46:25
    Harmful to Society
    beach bum
    harmful
  • Steve 2012/07/17 10:38:31
    Helpful to Society
    Steve
    +1
    Although you really don't need software to know that poor and gang infested neighborhoods have high rates of crime.
  • Rhio2k 2012/07/17 10:33:28
  • vaderpriest 2012/07/17 10:26:42
    Harmful to Society
    vaderpriest
    We can all go into the arguments of why society is in the state it is in. Why crime and injustice is prevalent in all parts of the community and not exclusive to anyone's economic status. One thing is clear however, the continual erosion of peoples privacy and rights, all under the pretense of safety and catching the law breakers when in fact it is all about continually tightening the grip of the authoritarian control.
  • Kaola 2012/07/17 10:15:00
    Harmful to Society
    Kaola
    They end up harming even the innocent. What if this criminal dress like me and I end up in jail due to that Predictive Policing.
  • mk, Smartass Oracle 2012/07/17 09:28:02
    Harmful to Society
    mk, Smartass Oracle
    +2
    I don't like police states
  • Marlene... mk, Sma... 2012/07/20 02:50:06
    Marlene Wilkins
    +1
    And Homeland Security would be able to 'adjust' the software as-needed.
    This is an extremely BAD idea.
    Unless you're a real fan of living under authoritarian tyranny.
    This is the first step into a very dangerous decline of personal freedoms and rights of Innocent until PROVEN Guilty.
    Oh, that's right...computer says you're guilty--therefore, you're guilty.
    Yeah...this is how Liberty dies.
  • mk, Sma... Marlene... 2012/07/20 15:04:30
    mk, Smartass Oracle
    +1
    I was against the formation of Homeland Security back in the Bush Administration. And yes I agree it seems in to many cases due process is being denied to the accused.
  • Marlene... mk, Sma... 2012/07/21 00:37:24
    Marlene Wilkins
    +1
    When we up here heard 'Homeland Security', we all thought the same thing;
    '1984' and 'Orwell'.
    This Predictive Policing is simply TOO dangerous to fool around with, too easily abused, and NO way to really control it.
  • mk, Sma... Marlene... 2012/07/21 17:20:06
    mk, Smartass Oracle
    +1
    I agree completely, it's taken right out of "1984"
  • Marlene... mk, Sma... 2012/07/21 20:56:35
    Marlene Wilkins
    +1
    Worse, Orwell's likely smacking his forhead right now thinking; "Why didn't I think of that!!" LOL
    But yeah, it's just going TOO far into extremist-policy based on crime-fear.
    Tyranny is freedom....right??
  • mk, Sma... Marlene... 2012/07/21 20:58:18
    mk, Smartass Oracle
    +1
    ""When governments fear the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny." - Thomas Jefferson
  • Marlene... mk, Sma... 2012/07/21 21:10:50
    Marlene Wilkins
    +1
    GOOD quote. :-)

    "A gov't should fear it's people, the people should not fear their gov't."
    'V' V for Vendetta.
  • mk, Sma... Marlene... 2012/07/21 21:26:37
    mk, Smartass Oracle
    +1
    We need people like Jefferson these days
  • Marlene... mk, Sma... 2012/07/21 21:31:32
    Marlene Wilkins
    +1
    NO joke!!
  • weirdchickalert 2012/07/17 08:10:50
    Helpful to Society
    weirdchickalert
    no opinion needed
  • caius madison 2012/07/17 07:35:24
    Harmful to Society
    caius madison
    +1
    Your saying bring back profiling then? That's what I'm hearing.....
  • Stan Kapusta 2012/07/17 05:39:05
    Helpful to Society
    Stan Kapusta
    +2
    Would you put more firemen in a desert or a forest?
  • vaderpr... Stan Ka... 2012/07/17 10:19:30
    vaderpriest
    +1
    Like a forest fire, it's very obvious and has been for a long time were the crime is occurring. Of course it also depends on your definition of crime.
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