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Is Obama One Of The Best Presidents Ever? Academics Say Yes

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It might seem a bit early to rank President Barack Obama high on a list of U.S. presidents but that didn't stop some academics from doing it.

Elected less than two years ago, Obama was listed at number 15, two spots behind Bill Clinton and three spots ahead of Ronald Reagan. Obama got high marks for intelligence, ability to communicate and imagination, but his score was dragged down by his relative lack of experience and family background.

The 2010 Siena College Research Institute Survey of U.S. Presidents is based on responses from 238 presidential scholars, historians and political scientists that responded via mail or web to an invitation to participate. Respondents ranked each of 43 presidents on a scale of 1 (poor) to 5 (excellent) on each of twenty presidential attributes, abilities and accomplishments.

The scholars rated George W. Bush at number 39. There are only 43 presidents.

FDR was number one, with Theodore Roosevelt, Abraham Lincoln, George Washington and Thomas Jefferson in the next four spots.

“In nearly thirty years, the same five presidents have occupied the first five places with only slight shuffling. Despite decades of new research on former presidents and the accomplishments or lack thereof of the current chief executives, scholars display amazingly consistent results,” according to Dr. Douglas Lonnstrom, Professor of statistics at Siena College and one of the study’s directors. “Only eight names have appeared in the second five over the years. Wilson and Truman hold onto membership in this club while Kennedy, John Adams and Jackson fell, Eisenhower holds on and Madison and Monroe have seen their stock rise.”

Should Barack Obama be considered one of our better presidents this early in his term?

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  • MkB 2010/07/03 08:56:09 (edited)
    No, Barack Obama will go down as one of our worst presidents.
    MkB
    +45
    What happened to a choice 3: Too early to tell if Obama will go down in history as a good or bad president?

    There are many president ranking polls, academic and public. Academia is considerably more liberal than it is conservative. It is natural that there is a liberal bias.

    What amazes me is that a 2007 Rasmussen Reports Poll ranked Jimmy Carter 17th out of 42 presidents. Ronald Reagan, 20th.

    Out of 238 of Siena's academics polled, George W. Bush ranks 39th out of 43. Pierce, Harding, Buchanan, and Andrew Johnson were judged to be worse than GWB. I think it's too early to say that GWB ranks that low.

    I was a 5th generation Democrat. FDR was regarded as a saint in my household. Then I bothered to seek the truth about FDR. It wasn't an easy thing to do. Teddy Roosevelt was a personal favorite so I studied him for balance between the two.

    FDR is the top favorite. But why? Yes, he is well liked. Yet he prolonged the Great Depression with his economic programs. Some of which were deemed unconstitutional and struck down by the Supreme Court after his death. FDR tried to pack the Supreme Court from 7 to 9 judges. Blantantly unconstitutional. FDR did not push for civil rights because he feared losing blocs of voters. FDR and Stalin held secret meetings to instill a new worl...



    What happened to a choice 3: Too early to tell if Obama will go down in history as a good or bad president?

    There are many president ranking polls, academic and public. Academia is considerably more liberal than it is conservative. It is natural that there is a liberal bias.

    What amazes me is that a 2007 Rasmussen Reports Poll ranked Jimmy Carter 17th out of 42 presidents. Ronald Reagan, 20th.

    Out of 238 of Siena's academics polled, George W. Bush ranks 39th out of 43. Pierce, Harding, Buchanan, and Andrew Johnson were judged to be worse than GWB. I think it's too early to say that GWB ranks that low.

    I was a 5th generation Democrat. FDR was regarded as a saint in my household. Then I bothered to seek the truth about FDR. It wasn't an easy thing to do. Teddy Roosevelt was a personal favorite so I studied him for balance between the two.

    FDR is the top favorite. But why? Yes, he is well liked. Yet he prolonged the Great Depression with his economic programs. Some of which were deemed unconstitutional and struck down by the Supreme Court after his death. FDR tried to pack the Supreme Court from 7 to 9 judges. Blantantly unconstitutional. FDR did not push for civil rights because he feared losing blocs of voters. FDR and Stalin held secret meetings to instill a new world order government after the war was won. In FDR's favor, he was a brilliant wartime president. If he didn't declare war after wartime Japan attacked Pearl Harbor, academics speculate that he would be subject to impeachable charges.

    Teddy Roosevelt. Trust-buster. Curbed corporate monopoly. Worked with the striking United Mine Workers for better pay for fewer hours. Passed the Meat Inspection Act of 1906 and the Pure Food and Drug Act for public consumption safety. Invited the first black, Booker T. Washington, to the White House against strong political and public opinion. First president to appoint a representative of the Jewish minority to a cabinet position, Secretary of Commerce and Labor, Oscar S. Straus. On immigration, Roosevelt strongly advocated total Americanization. Roosevelt was instrumental in the conservation of approximately 230 million acres of American soil among various parks and other federal projects.

    Roosevelt's faults: Author James Bradley in his book, The Imperial Cruise (2009) reveals that in 1905 Roosevelt encouraged the Japanese to begin their military expansion onto the Asian continent when the president agreed a secret treaty that allowed Japan to take Korea. Bradley asserts that with this secret and unconstitutional maneuver, Roosevelt inadvertently ignited the problem of Japanese expansionism that FDR would later confront as WWII in Asia. Roosevelt advocated eugenics, "Society has no business to permit degenerates to reproduce."
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  • ains worth 2012/03/30 04:59:25
    Yes, Barack Obama is a good president.
    ains worth
    I am the only man in America have what the president need to over come all the upstacle.
  • eva smith ains worth 2012/11/10 17:06:14
    eva smith
    grammar????
  • eva smith ains worth 2012/11/10 17:06:36
    eva smith
    What is an "upstacle"???
  • Andrew Merrell 2011/10/26 23:36:22
    Yes, Barack Obama is a good president.
    Andrew Merrell
    65 voters making $100+ 17 them voted no [2 voted yes]
    66 voters making less than $25k/year all of them voted yes

    Interesting
  • Freedom4 2011/10/09 18:46:04
    No, Barack Obama will go down as one of our worst presidents.
    Freedom4
    Hilarious. If anything, this is just further proof that the extreme liberal professors that have never held a real job outside of academia are really freaking practical morons that are not qualified in any way to be teaching students to go into the real world.
  • siouxthegal 2011/10/03 14:14:15
    Yes, Barack Obama is a good president.
    siouxthegal
    He has tried his damnest to get things done for the good of our country. The problem is the GOP saying NO to everything, filibustering and even admitting that they will do everything they can to get him out and make him only 1 term. Now isn't that just great for our country?
  • eva smith siouxth... 2012/11/10 17:07:43
    eva smith
    +1
    Definitely the best for our country!
  • Monkey's Uncle 2011/04/11 06:09:40
    No, Barack Obama will go down as one of our worst presidents.
    Monkey's Uncle
  • Hudson 2011/03/05 04:50:26
    Yes, Barack Obama is a good president.
    Hudson
    +1
    He is fantastic.
  • eva smith Hudson 2012/11/10 17:08:23
    eva smith
    Why? Because he gave you free cheese and a phone??
  • Al C. 2010/09/15 20:18:56
    No, Barack Obama will go down as one of our worst presidents.
    Al C.
    Those so called academics better go back to school and smarten up!!!!!!!!!!
  • siouxth... Al C. 2012/11/14 17:44:21
    siouxthegal
    Well if that is how you feel then I can only imagine what you would think about 8 years of Bush with 2 wars not paid for, tax cuts for rich, not paid for...........need I say more? I can if you want. It sounds like you aren't so smart yourself if this is how you can talk.............
  • Al C. siouxth... 2012/11/14 20:07:10
    Al C.
    I didn't agree with Bush's spending policies either but as bad as Bush was Obama's ten times worse!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  • Sassy22 2010/09/15 16:05:23
    No, Barack Obama will go down as one of our worst presidents.
    Sassy22
    "Obama" and "best" shouldn't even be used in the same sentence together. He isn't the "best" anything. How unfortunate, but truthful!
  • siouxth... Sassy22 2012/11/14 17:45:08
    siouxthegal
    You are right..................he should be called wonderful, fantastic and most of all......FAIR and caring for the people.
  • Kiddutch 2010/09/15 15:01:41
    No, Barack Obama will go down as one of our worst presidents.
    Kiddutch
    Not even in the top twenty
  • siouxth... Kiddutch 2012/11/14 17:45:34
    siouxthegal
    Hah, can only imagine WHO would be your first 20...........
  • Raven 2010/09/03 23:13:24
    No, Barack Obama will go down as one of our worst presidents.
    Raven
    +1
    And so will this congress!

    This is scary
    barack obama presidents congress scary
  • Day0One 2010/08/18 19:25:33
    Yes, Barack Obama is a good president.
    Day0One
    +1
    What your President Obama has accomplished just 6 months into his first term.
  • Houston 2010/08/05 23:22:43
    Yes, Barack Obama is a good president.
    Houston
    +3
    He is very good president
  • Christine/Rest in peace Pet... 2010/07/31 02:14:22
    No, Barack Obama will go down as one of our worst presidents.
    Christine/Rest in peace Peter Br
    +4
    The worst in economics, corruption, disregard for court rulings, treating our allies worse than foes, idealogical driven, wanting to redesign the United States, and dividing just about every group of Americans. Obama, his administration, and his congress are the best, however, at pitting Americans against each other.
  • Sunny Christi... 2010/08/12 17:44:49
    Sunny
    +1
    No... He's creating avenues for change and meeting with resisting, new thoughts. It's all good.
  • mm853 Christi... 2010/08/17 04:33:09
    mm853
    I guess it takes two to tango. You think President Obama is a divider, I think he inherited a country that has been divided by 40+ years of stagnation of middle class wages and wealth.

    Not only that, I think -- in contrast with his predecessor -- he reached out to his opponents to try to find a middle ground. It is his opponents who are intransigent and uncompromising. To his progressive base, he is too willing to compromise.
  • hannah 2010/07/26 17:02:05
    No, Barack Obama will go down as one of our worst presidents.
    hannah
    +1
    he is the effing last place
  • ShakilaAnwar 2010/07/19 10:03:03
    No, Barack Obama will go down as one of our worst presidents.
    ShakilaAnwar
    +3
    he lied his way through like the rest of them do,he recieved majoraty of the muslims vote who are american citizens as he promissed changes, whitch he hasnt, and still is sending troops down to afghanistan.its a circle of evil which within they work for.there aim is to controll every1 everywhere.
  • PJ Sweet Cheeks 2010/07/18 14:01:31
    No, Barack Obama will go down as one of our worst presidents.
    PJ  Sweet Cheeks
    +1
    LMAO!...I can't get pass the question!!!!
  • Bobolinks42 2010/07/14 19:19:33
  • johnnyg 2010/07/13 21:44:07
    No, Barack Obama will go down as one of our worst presidents.
    johnnyg
    +2
    What were these guys smokin'!!
  • Cindy Lue 2010/07/13 12:24:20
    No, Barack Obama will go down as one of our worst presidents.
    Cindy Lue
    +2
    This is a joke. You can't link Washington and FDR in the catagory, This group of historian must have been hand picked by moveon.org
  • jared 2010/07/13 03:01:43
    No, Barack Obama will go down as one of our worst presidents.
    jared
    He may be popular as the most talked about president ever because he is purposely trying to destroy our country as we know it I hope we all enjoy spreading the wealth when we are standing in bread lines "YES WE CAN" not the greatest president but the most talked about Muslim Communist ever next to Osoma Bin Laden!! Carry on Mr. Obama because as pastor Manning sais "Them white folk aint gonna take it no more!!!!
  • jverlok 2010/07/12 00:15:55
    No, Barack Obama will go down as one of our worst presidents.
    jverlok
    +1
    Uhhhhhhhhhhh.. Not by a long shot!

    http://unionleader.com/articl...

    Recovery summer? Obama can't spin this one

    Cribbing terminology from the 1960s the same way he cribs policies from the 1930s, President Obama has dubbed the summer of 2010 the "Summer of Recovery." It doesn't have the same ring as "Freedom Summer," but, then, cheap knockoffs are never as good as the originals.

    Here is how The Hill, an influential Washington, D.C., newspaper that covers the federal government, described the administration's effort to convince Americans that its New Deal policies are working: "President Barack Obama and his team are trying to sell Americans on an economic recovery this summer, but the economy is stubbornly refusing to cooperate."

    In May, total non-farm employment grew by 431,000 jobs -- and 411,000 of them were temporary Census worker positions. In June, 225,000 Census jobs ended, and the private sector created only 83,000 new jobs in their place.

    Last week, Obama traveled to Missouri and Nevada to sell his "Summer of Recovery" propaganda. But the people aren't buying it. Obama could sell his health care plan and the stimulus bills because there was no way to judge their immediate impact. The costs would come now, the benefits later.

    For the stimulus bill, later has arriv...





    Uhhhhhhhhhhh.. Not by a long shot!

    http://unionleader.com/articl...

    Recovery summer? Obama can't spin this one

    Cribbing terminology from the 1960s the same way he cribs policies from the 1930s, President Obama has dubbed the summer of 2010 the "Summer of Recovery." It doesn't have the same ring as "Freedom Summer," but, then, cheap knockoffs are never as good as the originals.

    Here is how The Hill, an influential Washington, D.C., newspaper that covers the federal government, described the administration's effort to convince Americans that its New Deal policies are working: "President Barack Obama and his team are trying to sell Americans on an economic recovery this summer, but the economy is stubbornly refusing to cooperate."

    In May, total non-farm employment grew by 431,000 jobs -- and 411,000 of them were temporary Census worker positions. In June, 225,000 Census jobs ended, and the private sector created only 83,000 new jobs in their place.

    Last week, Obama traveled to Missouri and Nevada to sell his "Summer of Recovery" propaganda. But the people aren't buying it. Obama could sell his health care plan and the stimulus bills because there was no way to judge their immediate impact. The costs would come now, the benefits later.

    For the stimulus bill, later has arrived. But the benefits Obama promised haven't. "It's very hard to discern any impact," one economist told CNN last week. So the President, to convince people that they should believe him and not their own eyes, resorts to his old standby, flying around the country giving speeches.

    It is not hard to figure out why the President's support among independent voters has hit a new low -- 38 percent -- according to a Gallup poll released last week. Every week that goes by, the gap between the real world and the world Obama inhabits grows wider.

    Obama lives in a world in which issuing commands and dispensing checks from Washington is the way to solve problems.

    The rest of us live in the real world, which is a little more complicated than that. While Obama continues making speeches, issuing regulations, signing laws and sending out money to his political backers, the rest of us wait (and wait, and wait) for businesses to start hiring again.
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  • Javimendo 2010/07/12 00:04:14
    No, Barack Obama will go down as one of our worst presidents.
    Javimendo
    +2
    ... he won't go down as one of the worse president's - he is the worse presidenté evah!
  • Icono1 2010/07/11 20:23:38
    No, Barack Obama will go down as one of our worst presidents.
    Icono1
    +3
    In the Academic world 0Bama is a dream come true.
    Yet in the real world, where the majority of Americans live, 0Bama is really causing big problems.
  • EL PR! 2010/07/11 08:21:02
  • piggly 1 2010/07/11 03:43:11
    Yes, Barack Obama is a good president.
    piggly 1
    +1
    President Obama, especially considering the extremely difficult conditions prevailing as he took office, has handled the duties of President of the United States well. His loyal opposition has not been that, but rather has been opposed to anything and everything on purely partisan grounds. He has tried to reason with the opposition party, but has met nothing but unreasonable obstruction. "We want him to fail" is their mantra. Compared to his predecessor, Mr. Obama is a superb president. He is reasonable, intelligent, has vision and is able to handle a large array of issues simultaneously. In addition, the President has even been reasonable to vicious attacks to his motives by those claiming that he is un-American, against America, attempting to destroy America, not an American and all of the other senseless, idiotic ramblings, which have not even the slightest support in the form of evidence. Eventually, Mr. Obama will be rated in the top tier of American Presidents. So hate or rant if you must but, at least do it from truth and evidence.
  • ginger snap 2010/07/10 23:10:15
    No, Barack Obama will go down as one of our worst presidents.
    ginger snap
    +6
    He is the worst of everything.
  • sharon 2010/07/10 20:33:56
    No, Barack Obama will go down as one of our worst presidents.
    sharon
    +6
    he is destroying this country by spending, favoring minorities - he is a socialist and unAmerican
  • rosey 2010/07/10 05:48:30
    No, Barack Obama will go down as one of our worst presidents.
    rosey
    +4
    i think that he is all fake
  • flexo 2010/07/09 17:35:10
    No, Barack Obama will go down as one of our worst presidents.
    flexo
    +6
    liberals are the enemy of the american way of life.
  • teachaman~PWCM~JLA 2010/07/09 15:39:26
    No, Barack Obama will go down as one of our worst presidents.
    teachaman~PWCM~JLA
    +5
    this issue with many of my fellow academicians is that they have never actually been in the real world, and are surrounded by those whose lives have been - just as theirs have been - insulated from reality by a wall of theory ... many are truly bright, but that brightness is muted by the fact that - outside of a few publications - they have never in their professional lives ever had to actually survive in the real world ... Obama represents this false reality perfectly, having never had a job other than one in politics, and never having to be successful at anything other than being a convincing theorist - a perfect mirror of life in academe ... asking Marxists / Statists (the principle theory espoused by politcal science profs today) whether or not Marx was right is similar to asking Muslims whether of not Mohammet was right - it's sorta silly when one thinks about it! ... the thing is, the POTUS is the P of the US, and not of academia, so what a bunch of stuffed shirts with no real-world experience think about another stuffed shirt without real-world experience is of no value, anyway, is it?
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