obama's birth father was a devout muslim
obama's step father was a devout muslim
obama's mother was an atheist
obama's mentor of 20 years was a black liberation thelologist who assigns white guilt and exalts black victimhood
i read obama's first book and i do not recall his entering a church or a mention of jesus christ in it
the first mention of christianity in obama's first book that i remember was when he was trying to gain acceptance in the black community of chicago and the community activist he was working with suggested the way to acceptance in the black community was through rev wright's church
perhaps, obama is just a political opportunist who assumes the trappings of christianity for purely political purposes
Is Obama Lying About His Religion? Do You Even Care?
Cupe Doll
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Many Americans now believe Barack Hussein Obama to be Muslim. Yet most Americans simply do not know if Obama is secretly Muslim. They cannot know. And that's what sounds to be ringing the greatest alarms.
CNN pundits, for instance, breathily extol religious freedom as an American sacrament. Every next breath, though, they bemoan how much campaigning -- so-called educating -- will be required to persuade Americans that Obama is no secret Muslim. From one breath to the next -- totally oblivious to their superlative hypocrisy. Yes, it's fine being Muslim in America. But no way should anyone ever think Barack Obama actually is Muslim. God forbid anyone even think Obama isn't Christian.
Not in my back yard. Not with my daughter. Not my elected President.
It isn't mere hypocrisy. It's hillarity. As when the White House declared Obama must be Christian – since he prays twice daily. That's right -- only twice. Not five times.
But of course everyone already knows all about constitutionally guaranteed religious freedom. Even on CNN -- surely that can't be news. Not in this century. So what, really, is the issue?
Actually, there would not have been any issue. The subject would never have come up if only Obama had not been heard to gratuitously endorse the Ground Zero mosque. Americans did not know Obama's religion -- and would have been perfectly content to continue neither knowing nor much caring. Why should Americans have given a first, nevermind second thought to Obama's religion? Obama was elected President -- not Pope. Not Ayatollah. There would have been no issue or subject to debate.
But Obama was heard to gratuitously endorse the Ground Zero mosque. And even though Obama clarified the very next day he was not commenting on the wisdom but merely the right to place that mosque at Ground Zero? Americans just can't believe it. Because if Obama was just generally pontificating America's religious freedoms -- to contrast, say, Iran's -- then why particularly, specifically only mention that Ground Zero mosque?
That's what Americans cannot understand. How and why the Ground Zero Mosque can figure as Obama's example in chief when it comes to religious freedom. Since no one can really believe that placing that mosque precisely at Ground Zero is about religious freedom. Since everyone already knows how placing that mosque precisely at Ground Zero is about religious hatred.
Everyone knows it. Not just because Hamas is backing it. Or because there are no legitimately practicing Muslims requiring such a place of worship at Ground Zero – a commercial district. Or because, as Abd Al-Rahman Al-Rashed, director-general of Al-Arabiya TV wrote, legitimate Muslims would not even want there to be a mosque at Ground Zero – “.. it will become an arena for the promoters of hatred, and a monument to those who committed the crime."
We know placing that mosque precisely at Ground Zero is about religious hatred because we understand the difference between legitimate Muslims and Islamists. Because we get the meaning of militant Islamic fundamentalism – Islamism – in the West. And it wasn’t 9/11 that taught us the difference, either. It’s a spurious and pernicious myth that we’ve become Islamophobic since 9/11. In the tolerant West we do not mistake all Muslims for militant fundamentalists. We know far better.
It was the days after 9/11. Whenever we’ve seen the dancing in Middle-Eastern Islamist streets. Seen it on T.V. Seen it on Al-Jazeera and CNN. The collective Islamist rejoicing. And we even tried laughing it off – with the (non)Muhammad cartoons, for instance. We tried laughing Islamism off as we would Christian fundamentalism.
There’s no laughing Islamist hatred off, though. We get it. In New York and in London. In Madrid, Moscow and Mumbai. In Africa, Asia, Europe, America and, of course, the Middle East. Nobody laughs off Islamist hatred. Everyone gets it.
Islam is a great religion of peace – increasingly hijacked by militant Islamic fundamentalists. By Islamists. And nobody can ignore how evil Islamists are. Because, by this day and age, only Islamist societies remain sufficiently fundamentalist to righteously enslave women, terrorize every other culture there is and proudly declare their genocidal ambitions.
The Ground Zero mosque is not for legitimate Muslims. Legitimate Muslims don’t want a mosque at Ground Zero. Placing that mosque at Ground Zero is for the Islamists. Because only at Ground Zero will that mosque become destination 1 for Islamists to come celebrate 9/11. Only at Ground Zero can that mosque become Islamism’s holiest site. Only at Ground Zero will that mosque stand legacy to Islamist supremacy.
That’s the real reason Obama’s religious beliefs have become such an issue. Because after endorsing placing that mosque at Ground Zero as if doing so were about religious freedom – rather than religious hatred? We can no longer conceive what Obama was thinking.
Why would Obama support placing that mosque at Ground Zero? There’s no issue whether Obama be Muslim or Christian. The real issue is how Obama really feels about every Islamist cause that Ground Zero mosque will so immaculately serve.
Perhaps, just maybe, Democratic pundits and mainstream media commentators should cease blaming anti-Islamic sentiments for the ire Obama has roused. Because our ire is anti-Islamist -- not anti-Islamic. Because most people can tell the difference. Because, among those that cannot, pundits and commentators are themselves fanning Islamophobic flames.
Instead of blaming anti-Islamic sentiments and educating how truly Christian Obama is? Why not reassure that Obama can harbor no Islamist sympathies? That Obama fully understands how Islamism contradicts everything America stands for – and how Islamist sympathy can mean nothing but enmity for freedom and democracy?
CNN pundits, for instance, breathily extol religious freedom as an American sacrament. Every next breath, though, they bemoan how much campaigning -- so-called educating -- will be required to persuade Americans that Obama is no secret Muslim. From one breath to the next -- totally oblivious to their superlative hypocrisy. Yes, it's fine being Muslim in America. But no way should anyone ever think Barack Obama actually is Muslim. God forbid anyone even think Obama isn't Christian.
Not in my back yard. Not with my daughter. Not my elected President.
It isn't mere hypocrisy. It's hillarity. As when the White House declared Obama must be Christian – since he prays twice daily. That's right -- only twice. Not five times.
But of course everyone already knows all about constitutionally guaranteed religious freedom. Even on CNN -- surely that can't be news. Not in this century. So what, really, is the issue?
Actually, there would not have been any issue. The subject would never have come up if only Obama had not been heard to gratuitously endorse the Ground Zero mosque. Americans did not know Obama's religion -- and would have been perfectly content to continue neither knowing nor much caring. Why should Americans have given a first, nevermind second thought to Obama's religion? Obama was elected President -- not Pope. Not Ayatollah. There would have been no issue or subject to debate.
But Obama was heard to gratuitously endorse the Ground Zero mosque. And even though Obama clarified the very next day he was not commenting on the wisdom but merely the right to place that mosque at Ground Zero? Americans just can't believe it. Because if Obama was just generally pontificating America's religious freedoms -- to contrast, say, Iran's -- then why particularly, specifically only mention that Ground Zero mosque?
That's what Americans cannot understand. How and why the Ground Zero Mosque can figure as Obama's example in chief when it comes to religious freedom. Since no one can really believe that placing that mosque precisely at Ground Zero is about religious freedom. Since everyone already knows how placing that mosque precisely at Ground Zero is about religious hatred.
Everyone knows it. Not just because Hamas is backing it. Or because there are no legitimately practicing Muslims requiring such a place of worship at Ground Zero – a commercial district. Or because, as Abd Al-Rahman Al-Rashed, director-general of Al-Arabiya TV wrote, legitimate Muslims would not even want there to be a mosque at Ground Zero – “.. it will become an arena for the promoters of hatred, and a monument to those who committed the crime."
We know placing that mosque precisely at Ground Zero is about religious hatred because we understand the difference between legitimate Muslims and Islamists. Because we get the meaning of militant Islamic fundamentalism – Islamism – in the West. And it wasn’t 9/11 that taught us the difference, either. It’s a spurious and pernicious myth that we’ve become Islamophobic since 9/11. In the tolerant West we do not mistake all Muslims for militant fundamentalists. We know far better.
It was the days after 9/11. Whenever we’ve seen the dancing in Middle-Eastern Islamist streets. Seen it on T.V. Seen it on Al-Jazeera and CNN. The collective Islamist rejoicing. And we even tried laughing it off – with the (non)Muhammad cartoons, for instance. We tried laughing Islamism off as we would Christian fundamentalism.
There’s no laughing Islamist hatred off, though. We get it. In New York and in London. In Madrid, Moscow and Mumbai. In Africa, Asia, Europe, America and, of course, the Middle East. Nobody laughs off Islamist hatred. Everyone gets it.
Islam is a great religion of peace – increasingly hijacked by militant Islamic fundamentalists. By Islamists. And nobody can ignore how evil Islamists are. Because, by this day and age, only Islamist societies remain sufficiently fundamentalist to righteously enslave women, terrorize every other culture there is and proudly declare their genocidal ambitions.
The Ground Zero mosque is not for legitimate Muslims. Legitimate Muslims don’t want a mosque at Ground Zero. Placing that mosque at Ground Zero is for the Islamists. Because only at Ground Zero will that mosque become destination 1 for Islamists to come celebrate 9/11. Only at Ground Zero can that mosque become Islamism’s holiest site. Only at Ground Zero will that mosque stand legacy to Islamist supremacy.
That’s the real reason Obama’s religious beliefs have become such an issue. Because after endorsing placing that mosque at Ground Zero as if doing so were about religious freedom – rather than religious hatred? We can no longer conceive what Obama was thinking.
Why would Obama support placing that mosque at Ground Zero? There’s no issue whether Obama be Muslim or Christian. The real issue is how Obama really feels about every Islamist cause that Ground Zero mosque will so immaculately serve.
Perhaps, just maybe, Democratic pundits and mainstream media commentators should cease blaming anti-Islamic sentiments for the ire Obama has roused. Because our ire is anti-Islamist -- not anti-Islamic. Because most people can tell the difference. Because, among those that cannot, pundits and commentators are themselves fanning Islamophobic flames.
Instead of blaming anti-Islamic sentiments and educating how truly Christian Obama is? Why not reassure that Obama can harbor no Islamist sympathies? That Obama fully understands how Islamism contradicts everything America stands for – and how Islamist sympathy can mean nothing but enmity for freedom and democracy?
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A big deal is made about a Muslim father, a Muslim step-father, and an atheist mother. How about a Christian grandfather and grandmother who had as much or more impact on him growing up? How about those currently around him in his adult life, including his wife and her family?
What mainstream media doesn't tell us is whether people even care -- and that's something this poll also tries to get at.
And then, of course, there's my argument. People shouldn't care. Because if Obama really is into Rev. Wright or into placing that mosque at Ground Zero? Then he's into religious hatred -- not religious freedom. And if he's into religious hatred then it doesn't even matter if he comes across Christian, Muslim or both.
***British Admiral Nelson of Trafalgar Square statue.
Whether Obama is secretly into false-christian religious hatred (as any follower of rev. Jeremiah would have to be) or if he's into false-muslim religious hatred (as anyone endorsing an islamist mosque at ground zero would have to be) doesn't even matter. Because dude keeps acting out like a religious hater.
So yea -- we don't know what brand of religious hatred it'll be tomorrow. Maybe dude's lying about the brand of hatred he's into most.
The hatred itself, though? That just keeps spewing out. Religiously.
Get it, Jimbo? Legitimate Muslims don't want that mosque at Ground Zero. Because Islam is a great religion of peace. But Islam has been hijacked by militant Islamic fundamentalists. By Islamists. And it's Islamists that want that mosque at Ground Zero to celebrate 9/11.
How evil are Islamists? Put it this way, Jimbo. By this day and age, only Islamist societies remain sufficiently fundamentalist to righteously enslave women, terrorize every other culture there is and proudly declare their genocidal ambitions.
As for preaching hatred like Rev. Jeremiah and Islamists everywhere do? Hey, you go on knock yourself out defending false-religious hatred. I have no doubt Obama fully agrees with you. He claims to be all about religious freedom -- but I bet he'd love to have a beer and share the hatred with you.
Read the article you're commenting on, eh?
Jimbo here would really like us to believe Islamists don't want the Ground Zero mosque built -- and that legitimate muslims do. Maybe Jimbo is too confused for (coherent) words. Or else, maybe Jimbo is lying to itself. Either way, Jimbo can't lie to us. Not if it lies this badly.
The truth? It's Islamists that want the Ground Zero mosque built. Legitimate muslims do not want the Ground Zero mosque built.
Why? Obviously. Because that Ground Zero mosque will be a monument to terror. And that's not what legitimate muslims want. Since Islam is a great religion of peace. A great religion hijacked by militant Islamic fundamentalists. By evil Islamists.
As Al-Rahed said: "I can't imagine that Muslims [actually] want a mosque at this particular location, because it will become an arena for the promoters of hatred, and a monument to those who committed the crime."
Arab TV chief: 9/11 mosque would be 'monument' to terror
Why does Jimbo want us submitting ourselves to the Islamists? Obviously. To better appease them. To mollify them. Because if we give in to the Islamists? This will actually make them weaker -- and ultimately work to our advantage against them.
Me? I'm thinking Jimbo here is either an Islamist -- or a radical progressive Islamist cheerleader.
After the unending atrocities Islamist societies continue in Africa, in Asia, in Europe and in America? After New York, London, Madrid, Mumbai and Moscow -- to name just the most famous Islamist terrorist attacks in cities throughout the world?
Anyone and everyone, almost regardless how stupid or smart, has got to know by now how evil Islamists are. How evil? Put it this way:
Only Islamist societies remain sufficiently fundamentalist to proudly declare their genocidal ambitions, terrorize every other culture there is and righteously enslave women.
So don't feel bad. Don't lose sleep. You go right on calling me stupid. Since I'm not the subject here and since I don't know you from any other hole in the ground? It's just irrelevant.
That's alright, though. Jimbo doesn't need to make sense. It doesn't matter how confused Jimbo gets. Because Jimbo can't confuse anyone else.
After the unending atrocities Islamist societies continue in Africa, in Asia, in Europe and in America? After New York, London, Madrid, Mumbai and Moscow -- to name just the most famous Islamist terrorist attacks in cities throughout the world?
Nobody is confused anymore. Anyone and everyone, regardless how stupid or smart, has got to know by now how evil Islamists are. How evil? Put it this way:
Only Islamist societies remain sufficiently fundamentalist to proudly declare their genocidal ambitions, terrorize every other culture there is and righteously enslave women.