Is Obama acting like a desperate man trying to hold onto power?

by Drue-AFCL Posted 2012/06/26 01:44:30

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WhereIsAmerica? ~PWCM~JLA 2012/06/26 01:48:43

yes

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He is such a buffoon.

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joseph ... to WhereIs... 2012/06/26 04:54:11

Now THIS is a buffoon.

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Kevin 2012/06/26 01:47:48

no

+2
But his opponents are and have been acting desperately in order to denigrate and delegitimatize him.

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keymanjim to Kevin 2012/06/26 01:49:10

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The boy did that to himself.

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Kevin to keymanjim 2012/06/26 01:56:58

Your calling him "boy" is an example of how his opponents attempt to denigrate and delegitimize him.

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keymanjim to Kevin 2012/06/26 02:33:23

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You don't expect me to call him a man, do you?
A man takes responsibility for his mistakes. A boy tries to blame someone else.
Can you name anything obama has accepted the blame for?
Of course not. Because he'll keep blaming "the previous administration" or the "TEA party" or "the republicans in congress". But, never barry-boy.
That boy can't accept blame for anything.

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Kevin to keymanjim 2012/06/26 04:50:44

Try reading a newspaper now and again you might learn something.

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keymanjim to Kevin 2012/06/26 05:16:19

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There is nothing I can read in the biased press that will change what I see with my own two eyes.

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Kevin to keymanjim 2012/06/26 15:23:00

That's hogwash and an excuse for intellectual laziness.

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keymanjim to Kevin 2012/06/27 03:00:24

Intellectual laziness is letting others do your thinking for you.
As would happen if you rely on the biased media.

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Kevin to keymanjim 2012/06/27 03:54:03

HAHA, LOL.
In case you haven't figured it out, I'm laughing at the irony of your statement. Your comments and the "ideas" you've posted here are certainly not original to you.

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keymanjim to Kevin 2012/06/28 04:30:46

Great minds think alike. Weak minds have to told how to think.

If I have a similar sentiment with someone else than the sentiment is correct.

If you do it's only because you were told to think it.

Se the difference?

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Kevin to keymanjim 2012/06/28 05:00:28 (edited)

You must have a very weak mind, since I sincerely doubt you came to the same conclusions as all the right-wing news organizations all on your own because that would be quite improbable; though. I think you really believe you came to these conclusions on your own because 1) you're self-deluding and 2) that's how propaganda works.

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Red to keymanjim 2012/06/26 06:40:38
abubinc... to Kevin 2012/06/26 03:52:07
Kevin to abubinc... 2012/06/26 04:49:52

The very fact that you're calling the President of the United States an "America-hating criminal" is even further proof of your inability to come up with a real complaint or actually address real issues. Of the presidents of the last 30 years this is probably the least scandal plagued administration despite the "scandals" Republicans and such detractors try to pin on him. He's definitely not perfect and I take great issue with many of his policies but I will not resort to unfounded innuendo and name calling, and the very fact that you and those like you do demonstrates more about your laziness and intellect than anything about the president.

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keymanjim to Kevin 2012/06/26 05:18:27

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Actually, he's made a spot on assessment of obama.
That is two that feel this way and you are one that doesn't. In the system of majority rules, where do your stand?

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Kevin to keymanjim 2012/06/26 15:24:31

You and he might also agree that the White House is in fact purple, and I may not, but that does not make you right, majority or not.

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keymanjim to Kevin 2012/06/27 03:02:58

Since the color white is the culmination of all the other colors, technically, it is purple.

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Kevin to keymanjim 2012/06/27 04:05:17

Touche, but he larger point stands--a majority does not make something true or false.

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abubinc... to keymanjim 2012/06/27 01:01:23

+1
Democracy in action, Brother Jim?lol

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abubinc... to Kevin 2012/06/26 05:25:25

+1
Actually, it is a statement of fact.
"least scandal-plagued administration"?
His crimes are more damaging to our republic, his actions less beneficial to the American People, than any before.
His debt, dishonesty about what he created so much debt for(unions and foreign banks), are truly UNPRECEDENTED.
He RAPED Americans to pay off his bagmen.
I'm not a Republican.
I AM an American.
Which is more than the "president" can say.

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Kevin to abubinc... 2012/06/26 15:26:07

Actually it's not. Everything you've just listed here is right-wing propaganda.

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abubinc... to Kevin 2012/06/27 00:34:10 (edited)

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They're the truth.
That's the best "propaganda" of all.
At the very least , he is guilty of malfeasance.
He obviously betrayed his oath to uphold and defend the Constitution, as well.
But he's done much worse, as Fast and Furious will show.

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Kevin to abubinc... 2012/06/27 01:56:15

They are not the truth.. His policies have helped more Americans than your "information" sources tell you. He has committed none of the crimes those same sources allege he has. And no matter how many times you repeat the nonsense from these sources, and no matter how much you truly really want to believe it, the "truth" you so readily consume is skewed, misleading, corrupted, or just plain lies. If you disagree with the president then disagree with him for the multiple real reasons to disagree with him.

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abubinc... to Kevin 2012/06/27 03:31:52

Sucker.
Go get a job in the rel world, NOT government...OH!
There AREN'T any!
WHY?
Because the "president" is constantly threatening to rob free enterprise BLIND!
I'd hide MY money, too, if a crazy thief kept threatening to steal me out of business.
He is the worst
president
EVER!

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Kevin to abubinc... 2012/06/27 04:10:03

Your statement tells us much of your information level. The government, state mostly, is cutting jobs. Private industry jobs have actually grown considerably since 2008. If all those teachers firefighters and other government workers were rehired our unemployment rate would be a full point lower. The recovery is slow and imperfect, but most job growth, and there has been considerable job growth, has been in the private sector. And this bit about business not hiring because the president will robe enterprise blind is libertarian-conservative hogwash.

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abubinc... to Kevin 2012/06/27 05:18:20

Did you lose your chart?
You usually trot out the graphics to back up your lies...
Sad, really.

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Kevin to abubinc... 2012/06/27 15:19:16

Oh I pity your willful ignorance.

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abubinc... to Kevin 2012/06/27 22:43:57

Cool, can I have some of Obama's STASH?

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Red to Kevin 2012/06/26 06:41:37
Kevin to Red 2012/06/26 15:29:35

No, you seem to be making it all about him. The storyline that no one has suffered repercussions for the failures of the program is a lie, as many have. The question of its legality is a red-herring, as such programs have existed before and their legality was not in question. If your mind is blown then you really haven't been paying attention.

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Drue-AFCL to Kevin 2012/06/26 01:52:37

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I agree he has delegitimized HIMSELF!!! Please no more blaming others. True leaders LEAD. They don't just pander causes for the sole purpose of obtaining votes.

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Kevin to Drue-AFCL 2012/06/26 02:00:15

Agree with yourself apparently, as it is his opponents who are desperate and have been since his election. He has led, and his opponents have turned their backs even on positions they had previously are actually do agree with him on. There is no legitimacy in his opponents because they don't make legitimate critiques of his presidency and instead make a vast generalization like "true leaders lead". That's nonsense.

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marcuss... to Kevin 2012/06/26 03:08:04

+5
Do true leaders arm the Mexican drug cartels?

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Kevin to marcuss... 2012/06/26 04:52:35

That's a good question was Ronald Reagan a true leader? It wasn't a Mexican drug cartel, but try reading up on Iran-Contra. This was a deliberate program that armed cartels, revolutionaries, and American enemies. This was actual treason.

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Leasheryn/Lady Willpower 2012/06/26 01:47:03

yes

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Obama knows he's failing, therefore he's grasping at straws. The real issue facing our country right now is the economy yet he choses to pander to gays and illegals instead of facing the real concerns that have to be fixed. He's out of touch and desperate.

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ConLibFraud 2012/06/26 01:46:50

yes

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But he's the same he has always been. Same old desperate criminal.

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Red to ConLibF... 2012/06/26 06:43:36
kfallslady 2012/06/26 01:46:47

yes

+11
for sure!

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