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Is Michelle Bachmann a Racist?

Manuel 2012/07/24 14:48:00
Yes she is. She's just in denial of it.
No she is not, and here's why.
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Sooner or later something comes up on most of the GOP candidates about some where in their past they held views of racism. Then they some how try to hide it. But it comes back to bite them at some point in time...This has happen to Rick Perry, Ron Paul and even Newt Gingrich . Romney was almost spared of it...but given the history of the Latter Day Saints to keep out blacks from their churches for centuries and now allows them just can't still well with the majority of whites in that church. And Romney's campaign blunders at black garthering have reflected some of that.

So now we have Michelle Bachmann as being a racist...but not only of blacks but of people of Arab decent as well. With her latest witch hunt attacks on Huma Abedin and other Arab Americans of accusing them to be spies and secretly working for the Muslim Brotherhood !

...In college days she was a student of John Eidsmoe who preached and taught in so many words that added up to,,,blacks and Arabs don't really belong in America because the Christian God made this country for only whites who are the only ones that can be Christians...

. In August of last year, Bachmann told
the Rediscover God in America conference in Iowa that Eidsmoe is
“absolutely brilliant.” He “had a great influence on me … He taught me
about so many aspects of our Godly heritage,” she said.

Eidsmoe, a law professor who taught Bachmann at Oral Roberts University
and became something of a mentor to her. As the New Yorker’s Ryan Lizza reported last year, Bachmann worked for Eidsmoe on several projects and internalized his Christian-Dominionist
worldviews. If biblical law conflicts with civil law, Eidsmoe teaches
that “the first thing you should try to do is work through legal means
and political means to get it changed.” He told Lizza that Bachmann’s
views are entirely consistent with his own. So he teaching people to change our Constitution to favor Biblical law. That is the same as trying to make Sharia law stick...both are direct attacks on our Constitutional rights.

So here it comes.... John Eidsmoe is a member of the League of the South, which is a
neo-Confederate hate group, which has said things like slavery is
God-ordained and is explicitly racialist. He also spoke to the Council
of Conservative Citizens, which is a flat-out white supremacist group. ( many of these are in the Tea Party)
They’re against interracial marriage, they’ve said things like — direct
quote from them — ‘blacks are a retrograde species of humanity,’ blacks are beasts of burden for the white race...so you
get the idea. This guy John Eidsmoe hung out with hate groups, he’s been a member of
hate groups, and his views are just so far outside of the mainstream
that it’s amazing. it’s a little shocking to think that Michelle Bachmann would be openly willing to admit that she’s influenced
by him.

I'd say THAT makes her a racist in denial... just like the rest of them GOP candidates are...and all who would say to me that this is a race card post...you can only play that stupid hand for so long to help YOU stay in your own racist denial as well..

Okay let's here your comments on this one.


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  • sjalan 2012/07/24 15:13:01
    Yes she is. She's just in denial of it.
    sjalan
    +7
    For a starter, YES! and she's a lot of other things too. Homophobe, liar, opportunist, female dog, misinformed or ignores the reality of the truth. These are just for starters. There's a lot more but she doesn't deserve the time to list them.

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  • Miss Fiona 2012/08/22 02:29:52
    No she is not, and here's why.
    Miss Fiona
    The term "racist" was coined by Leon Trotsky of the U.S.S.R. to persecute nationalistic Russians. The term "racist" is a slur in my opinion.
  • wildcat 2012/07/29 00:01:42
    No she is not, and here's why.
    wildcat
    She's not a racist, she is just stupid.
  • Manuel wildcat 2012/07/30 01:39:27
  • BigFig#9 2012/07/25 23:47:56
    Yes she is. She's just in denial of it.
    BigFig#9
    +2
    Not sure denial is the right word because that suggests self denial - my guess is she simply hides it... But only Michelle knows her true beliefs...and we can only judge based on what she says and does and supports - which in my book suggests she's a racist religious bigot.
  • Manuel BigFig#9 2012/07/25 23:49:55
    Manuel
    +1
    that's a reasonale answer...and honest...I cannot really disagree with with you...
  • Debowman Manuel 2012/07/26 19:53:50
    Debowman
    Becase people like you, who are very racist, (just read through your answers, you point out race far too often to not have it as one of the things that drives you. Also read what book you have read, All race based, you fav quotes, most from Racist.. do you and Proud Progressive sit around and talk about all the hateful racist on here??? If MB doesn't admit, your in the same boat, you don't see, nor will you admit. you answers and questions are the same as you claim MB is. in my book suggests you are a racist religious bigot.
  • Manuel Debowman 2012/07/27 04:07:09 (edited)
    Manuel
    +1
    race is what divides America...and whites have caused it...only whites have caused it...if whites were not racist...there would be no Malcolm X or Martin Luther King Jr...
    Now that doesn't mean that every white is a racist...but in the founding of this country whites are the sole ones responsible for it...and Bauchman is fueling that...that's her denial part... or her hiding it...pick which ever...it still bigotry

    And all those things that Malcolm X said are true and not racist bigotry...are you so blind that you cannot see that?...It's a wake up call.... conservative Dixiecrat whites produced Malcolm X ...read his story on how it was for him growing up...and tell me...was there any reason why whites should do such evil to him and his family...?

    Calling me a racist is way out of line kid....
  • Debowman Manuel 2012/07/27 05:01:46
    Debowman
    1st off I am not a kid, got that, Regardless of something that no one alive today "caused" it seems that though you want to lay blame, you fail to see that only YOUR reference to race is the only way it even comes up. That tells me that your preconditioned to thanking that way. You know that they have done studies, and you fit the profile.
    My son could look like him, was the same, Obama brings up race, fuels the fire but for some reason gets away from it. hmmmm
  • Manuel Debowman 2012/07/27 05:22:42
    Manuel
    you are a kid to me because you just don't get it....all of it was pasted on ..generation to generation dude...that is the only way racism survives ...so you think a guy like Malcolm X when he was a kid dreamed he would become a voice to fight against white racism?

    Obama said...If I had a son...he would look like Trayvon....sorry dude...I am trying real hard to see how that is a racist statement ...

    My points are clear and accurate on how racism from the past is invested in mostly the conservatives of today... it's you guys that brought it all out....Bauchman is a bigot...she's a nice bigot...she even helps foster black kids...but that still doesn't mean she isn't a racist ...she thinks she knows how blacks should be....one thing they should not be is President of the USA....that is a clear point on the right...
  • Debowman Manuel 2012/07/27 21:05:44
    Debowman
    NO thats very untrue, and you clealy don't know what you talking about, and people like you keep race right up front, You invest in racism because you think it makes your point. Yet your to childish to even see how.
    ‘The implication of looks equating to innocence (or guilt) is illogical and emotive and divisive, and indeed racially charged.’
    Trayvon is dead because he was in the middle of bashing some dude’s head on the pavement, and that dude happened to be armed. Trayvon’s death is tragic, and the force Zimmerman used could be debated for days on end, but let’s not pretend that the kid was a martyr and that Zimmerman was a racist. I’m pretty sure that neither Hispanics nor Democrats are allowed to be racists, and George Zimmerman was both.

    Trayvon was not an innocent little kid with a colorful bag of skittles. At 17, I’ll still call him a kid, but the guy was a 6’2” football player who was on a 5-day suspension from school for marijuana possession. He was not shot in a predominantly white neighborhood, he was shot in a neighborhood that was 49 percent white. It takes some pretty creative math turn 49 percent into a majority.
    Conversitives didn't bring out racism, Liberals keep it right up front, ready to be spoken at any sllight they feel and that can't be justified any other way.
    Obama didn’t create the misunderstandings and resentments that complicate a controversy like Trayvon Martin’s death. He’s just the spark that sets them off.
  • Manuel Debowman 2012/07/27 21:32:28
  • Debowman Manuel 2012/07/27 22:21:13 (edited)
    Debowman
    Trayvon is dead because Zimmerman chased after him what?? he is dead because after Zimmerman started back to his car, Martin Attacked him. Had Martin simply went home, he would be still smoking weed today.
    ...is a racist in denial lol again everyone but you right. Facts are facts, reading others viewpoints and converting them into facts is something that just will not work in a court of law. How can you say what zimmerman was thinking??? you just so smart you now know what people are thinking??? Well then seeing how your SO smart, and KNOW what people were thinking, what was good ol racist Al thinking when he ignored the 14 African Americans shot in south Fla the same week?? was it because they were shot by blacks,??? hmmmm
    I would love to have you in a court room, I tear you a new one, speculation doesn't come into play. Thats all you have, yet somehow you think that it's facts, lol what an idiot you are. zimmermans head

    Wanna discuss his broken nose,
  • cynsity 2012/07/25 14:19:44
    No she is not, and here's why.
    cynsity
    Why isn't we all look at people like Bachmann and, to be fair, Obama and say they are or are not "racist" because of who they associated with in the past. They ASSOCIATED with, which is not to say they acted or incouraged others to act against persons of different gentic make-ups.
    I can't tell you how many classes I sat in on through all my schooling where the proffessor were clearly bias against others not just like them (including myself) , all my military affiliations who worked grudgingly with but complained loudly against those not like them. But just because I had to learn from those people and work with those people none of that makes me either bias or racist it simply makes me aware that people like that exist.

    So far teh only modern day Racist who has acted in politics in recient years woudl be the late Sen. Bird who was an active partispant in the KKK. His ACTIONS show he was racist, or that he was at least for part of his life.

    There is, too, a difference between the diffentions of Raicist, Prejudgest and Bias and p[erhaps if people take a moment to learn the difference we might find teh ability to stop throwing around words taht should be more meaningful when used than they have become.
  • Manuel cynsity 2012/07/25 23:24:22
    Manuel
    +2
    Sen. Bird renounced his racism when he became a Liberal Democrat....and was a Democrat conservative Dixiecrat when he was a racist......

    Bauchamann still embraces everything she was taught by John Eidsmoe.
  • cynsity Manuel 2012/07/26 13:33:50
    cynsity
    AND? What ACTION has she taken to shopw she is a racist? Does she not allow nonwhites in heryard? does she burn crosses? does she promote violence. And IF all of a suddend she says "Oh I don't believe what I heard in class" she is suddendly washed clean of racism?
    And you are Speculating about what she does and doesn't believe. No one takes everything they learn from a single teacher and applies it to their life. To say they loved a teacher and what they learned is not the same as taking verbatum that teachers aditudes and applying them to your life.

    And if that is the case then Obama is also guilty of being racist and a hate monger and believing in conspiricy theories because that is what he was taught by those he associated with.
  • Manuel cynsity 2012/07/26 13:52:13 (edited)
    Manuel
    Bauchmann wrote a letter to congress accusing Arabs that are in our system in congress are all spies for the Muslim brotherhood and traitors of our government...only a person with racism in their back ground would even think like that...

    Obama hasn't accused any white people in Congress of being enemies of America and those that he knew in his past never taught him to hate other races or look at them as beasts.

    P.S. you don't need to burn a cross anymore these days to prove your a racist...but a letter to congress like this will do...
  • cynsity Manuel 2012/07/26 14:04:02
    cynsity
    You haven't actually read that letter have you? because if you had read it you would see that what she and several others called for was an investigation of potential misconduct by taxpayer supported groups who were potentially sending tax payer funds to terrorist groups.

    She was not accusing anyone of spying she was accusing people of useing government loop holes to funnel money illegally. And I wish every congress person was so concerned about where tax money goes.

    Try reading the entire letter you can find it at this link. http://frontpagemag.com/2012/...
  • Manuel cynsity 2012/07/26 14:52:42
    Manuel
    Yes I have.... here is what that letter adds up to....

    Main article: Muslim Brotherhood Conspiracy Theories

    In June-July 2012 Bachmann and several other Republican legislators Rep. Trent Franks, Texas Rep. Louie Gohmert, Florida Rep. Tom Rooney and Georgia Rep. Lynn Westmoreland Michele Bachmann Sticks To Accusations About Muslim Brotherhood sent a series of letters to oversight agencies at five federal departments citing “serious security concerns” about what Bachmann has called a “deep penetration in the halls of our United States government” by the Muslim Brotherhood. They requested formal investigations into what Bachmann called "influence operations" by the Brotherhood.

    Bachmann also accused Huma Abedin, an aide to Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton and former Rep. Anthony Weiner’s wife, of having family connections to the Muslim Brotherhood.

    Bachmann's comments have drawn what the Washington Post calls "fierce criticism from fellow lawmakers and religious groups." In a speech on the Senate floor, 2008 Republican presidential candidate Senator John McCain denounced Bachmann's charges as "specious and degrading". He defended Abedin as a "hard-working and loyal servant of our country and our government" and stated "these attacks on Huma have no logic, no basis and no mer...





    Yes I have.... here is what that letter adds up to....

    Main article: Muslim Brotherhood Conspiracy Theories

    In June-July 2012 Bachmann and several other Republican legislators Rep. Trent Franks, Texas Rep. Louie Gohmert, Florida Rep. Tom Rooney and Georgia Rep. Lynn Westmoreland Michele Bachmann Sticks To Accusations About Muslim Brotherhood sent a series of letters to oversight agencies at five federal departments citing “serious security concerns” about what Bachmann has called a “deep penetration in the halls of our United States government” by the Muslim Brotherhood. They requested formal investigations into what Bachmann called "influence operations" by the Brotherhood.

    Bachmann also accused Huma Abedin, an aide to Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton and former Rep. Anthony Weiner’s wife, of having family connections to the Muslim Brotherhood.

    Bachmann's comments have drawn what the Washington Post calls "fierce criticism from fellow lawmakers and religious groups." In a speech on the Senate floor, 2008 Republican presidential candidate Senator John McCain denounced Bachmann's charges as "specious and degrading". He defended Abedin as a "hard-working and loyal servant of our country and our government" and stated "these attacks on Huma have no logic, no basis and no merit. They need to stop now." House Speaker John Boehner termed Bachmann’s allegations “dangerous", and other Republicans have also criticized the remarks.

    In a letter to Bachmann, Rep. Keith Ellison, D-Minn., a Muslim, asked for evidence backing her claims and stated, “Your response simply rehashes claims that have existed for years on anti-Muslim websites and contains no reliable information that the Muslim Brotherhood has infiltrated the U.S. government”.

    Bachmann has replied that "the intention of the letters was to outline the serious national security concerns I had and ask for answers to questions regarding the Muslim Brotherhood and other radical group's access to top Obama administration officials". In a July 19 interview with right-wing radio and TV show host Glenn Beck, Bachman repeated and expanded her allegations, accusing Ellison of having "a long record of being associated with the Council on American–Islamic Relations and with the Muslim Brotherhood". (Ellison replied that "I am not now, nor have I ever been, associated with the Muslim Brotherhood.")

    To me this nothing but Bauchmann using racism profiling...
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  • cynsity Manuel 2012/07/26 15:30:06
    cynsity
    I love how you copied and pasted for a "source" that is pro Obama... but beyond the fact that you are using other peoples thoughts, what it boils down to is you so over use teh word racist and racism that it no longer has any meaning, which is a sad state of affairs because there is going to come a tiem when real racism happends and not a single person will perk up.

    You can no more prove that Bachmann is a racist than I can prove Obama is one, not that I would bother to try because racism doesn't lie in a letter asking for an investiagtion it lies in teh person's heart and no one knows what is in a persons heart but them.

    I think the bias here is your own and not bachmanns.
  • Manuel cynsity 2012/07/26 15:58:53
    Manuel
    Wikipedia doesn't take sides.... grow up and quit sulking over it...
  • cynsity Manuel 2012/07/26 16:24:09
    cynsity
    wikipedia is NOt a valid source. it has NO ZERO NADA accidemic credibility and is NOT recognised as a realiable source by ANY agency.

    Its used by school kids who end up FAILING.

    Perhaps you should try NEWSWEEK or THE TIMES or THE WALL STREET JOURNAL... next time you need a source.

    But I like how you revert to childish rhetoric when you are at a loss for an arguement.
  • Manuel cynsity 2012/07/26 16:57:34
    Manuel
    but I didn't lose lady...Wikipedia is credible. If you remember they threw off all the lies Palin's fans try to post about Paul Revere's ride.

    and here's a article from New Week...

    We’ve all heard about it. Last week Representative Michelle Bachmann (R-Minn) sent a letter to national security agents warning about the increasing infiltration of the Muslim Brotherhood in the federal government. Bachmann singled out Hillary Clinton’s longtime aide Huma Abedin, accusing her family members (her late father, mother and brother) of being close to “Muslim Brotherhood operatives."

    And Senator John McCain (R-Ariz) stepped up. He took the Senate floor on Wednesday to defend his fellow public servant:

    To say that the accusations made in both documents are not substantiated by the evidence they offer is to be overly polite and diplomatic about it. It is far better, and more accurate, to talk straight: These allegations about Huma, and the report from which they are drawn, are nothing less than an unwarranted and unfounded attack on an honorable citizen, a dedicated American, and a loyal public servant.

    Four years ago, McCain chose a running mate who failed to distinguish between the peaceful practice of the Muslim religion and Islamic terrorists. But he’s since repented.

    It’s been a week...







    but I didn't lose lady...Wikipedia is credible. If you remember they threw off all the lies Palin's fans try to post about Paul Revere's ride.

    and here's a article from New Week...

    We’ve all heard about it. Last week Representative Michelle Bachmann (R-Minn) sent a letter to national security agents warning about the increasing infiltration of the Muslim Brotherhood in the federal government. Bachmann singled out Hillary Clinton’s longtime aide Huma Abedin, accusing her family members (her late father, mother and brother) of being close to “Muslim Brotherhood operatives."

    And Senator John McCain (R-Ariz) stepped up. He took the Senate floor on Wednesday to defend his fellow public servant:

    To say that the accusations made in both documents are not substantiated by the evidence they offer is to be overly polite and diplomatic about it. It is far better, and more accurate, to talk straight: These allegations about Huma, and the report from which they are drawn, are nothing less than an unwarranted and unfounded attack on an honorable citizen, a dedicated American, and a loyal public servant.

    Four years ago, McCain chose a running mate who failed to distinguish between the peaceful practice of the Muslim religion and Islamic terrorists. But he’s since repented.

    It’s been a week since Bachmann’s letter was published. The ADL has said nothing. Yet its mission–which it repeatedly hasn't upheld–is to fight "anti-Semitism and all forms of bigotry." When asked about whether the organization would be responding to the events in a phone call this morning, an ADL media representative explained that the organization is “concerned” about what happened but was "not sure if we're planning on issuing a statement."

    The ADL’s concern is commendable. But its reluctance to issue a statement is not.

    Two years ago, the film director Oliver Stone gave an interview to a British newspaper in which he mentioned "The Jewish domination of the media." The very next day, the ADL issued a press release in which its National Director, Abe Foxman, condemned Stone’s “anti-Semitic and conspiratorial views.”

    Michelle Bachmann made a bigoted comment. It’s time to respond, ADL.

    Case close....lol
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  • cynsity Manuel 2012/07/26 17:12:56
    cynsity
    yep case closed any one who thinks wiki is credible when it is not is not worth the bother... bat at least you took an accounting from newsweek (center left to left leaning but credible). Still you should try a dictionary for eth difference bettwen bigot and racist... migt get a clue and tehn you can laugh at your own folly.
  • Manuel cynsity 2012/07/26 17:38:09
    Manuel
    maybe it's time for you to get out of the kitchen...throw up your block...the more you post...the more arrogant your appear...
  • cynsity Manuel 2012/07/29 14:53:19
    cynsity
    I do not block because I always believe people have teh right to speak their minds even if their minds are small.
  • Manuel cynsity 2012/07/30 01:41:03
    Manuel
    you are definitely speaking about your self...maybe I should give you a break...
  • Debowman cynsity 2012/07/27 21:10:59
    Debowman
    he is blinded by his own racism
  • cynsity Debowman 2012/07/29 14:53:54
    cynsity
    Maybe but more likely he is just ill informed or ignorant. maybe he will learn something
  • Debowman cynsity 2012/07/29 19:22:01
    Debowman
    nope his tounge is up Obies ass waiting to lick it clean. You can not argue with zealots
  • Manuel Debowman 2012/07/30 01:41:41
    Manuel
    what racism do i have...?
  • Debowman Manuel 2012/07/27 21:07:30
    Debowman
    wikipedia does take sides as anyone can change things there, YOU CAN"T USE WIKIPEDIA AS A SOURCE IN ANY SCHOOL SYSTEM IN THE USA
  • Manuel Debowman 2012/07/27 22:07:10
    Manuel
    you can't change things in it for the sake of change...Palin's fans tried that with Paul Revere. Wikipedia removed their lying crap and all corrections were made...Wikipedia constantly checks out their info to make sure it's right, sooner or later....on important people , places, and history.

    That is` why it can't be used in schools because it's immediate info maybe wrong or needs to be updated...with millions of other things...But info that years old or even a month is quite reliable.

    And just because it cannot be used in schools doesn't make it all lies and filled with nothing but wrong info....

    Do you really think that the truth about anything is being told on all sites that are for the left or the right?
    No matter where people go for info when it comes to hot debates on things that happen in the U.S. every site is gonna favor left or right....

    Wikipedia is neutral because it doesn't cator to the left or right...You post on it and site your sources and they check it all out and deem if it stays or goes...but that takes time...and because of that time certain info can be inaccurate until they get t5o it.. It's a big job and constantly being added to...it all history and current. That's a lot of stuff to process.....

    Everything that I found in it turned out to be true accor...

    you can't change things in it for the sake of change...Palin's fans tried that with Paul Revere. Wikipedia removed their lying crap and all corrections were made...Wikipedia constantly checks out their info to make sure it's right, sooner or later....on important people , places, and history.

    That is` why it can't be used in schools because it's immediate info maybe wrong or needs to be updated...with millions of other things...But info that years old or even a month is quite reliable.

    And just because it cannot be used in schools doesn't make it all lies and filled with nothing but wrong info....

    Do you really think that the truth about anything is being told on all sites that are for the left or the right?
    No matter where people go for info when it comes to hot debates on things that happen in the U.S. every site is gonna favor left or right....

    Wikipedia is neutral because it doesn't cator to the left or right...You post on it and site your sources and they check it all out and deem if it stays or goes...but that takes time...and because of that time certain info can be inaccurate until they get t5o it.. It's a big job and constantly being added to...it all history and current. That's a lot of stuff to process.....

    Everything that I found in it turned out to be true according to their sources written in the box form. All one needs to do is hit those numbers and theirs the source...and then you can take that and do a whole web search on it...that's what I do...

    I find doing this is the best way to go about finding info.
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  • Debowman Manuel 2012/07/27 22:26:53 (edited)
  • Debowman Manuel 2012/07/27 21:12:28
    Debowman
    pick a wikipidea page link it here, and after you quote it, I'll go change it, and it won't agree with you but you can still site it as a source even though it will condradict what you are saying ok
  • Manuel Debowman 2012/07/27 22:09:24
    Manuel
    sure you may be able to do that...but in time it will be sited checked and if it doesn't check out...they will remove it...
  • Debowman Manuel 2012/07/27 22:29:15
    Debowman
    you are just a stupid racist old man, who has lost this "Debate"

    the same as the DA will lose the Zimmerman case.
  • Manuel Debowman 2012/07/30 01:46:39
    Manuel
    you wish you could prove I am racist...and who am I racist with?

    Zimmerman has told 3 diffrent stories..my mother could tell when I lied...I asked her...how do you know?...she said..you kept changing the story...The DA will not have to do much to convict Zimmerman...he's doing it fine all by himself...
  • cynsity Manuel 2012/07/30 19:49:29
    cynsity
    and YOU wish you could prove that Bachmann is one. Fact is you can not.
  • Manuel cynsity 2012/07/30 20:09:13
    Manuel
    look at her physiology make up...she's a` a` demeanor racist...just a bias one...in her world blacks have their respected place...but not in the White House...
  • cynsity Manuel 2012/07/30 22:20:24
    cynsity
    by that understanding so are you. Because she has suspions about people, because she asks questions about what is being doen with money and funding... well you are asking questions about people and their motives so according to your logic you too are racist.

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