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Is It Time to Reform Gun Control?

The Big Question 2012/07/20 16:45:39
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  • The Bantam Seditioner 2012/07/20 16:49:43 (edited)
    No
    The Bantam Seditioner
    +37
    No, it's time to *scrap* gun control, and any other naive political scheme that ignores basic realities about human nature. Instead of promoting hard-and-fast rules for who may possess what, let's just say that people can do what they want with their own lives and property as long as they don't initiate force or fraud against others.

    It's time for us to grow up and stop trying to control and micromanage everything in this country...it doesn't work, and it never has! Just ask yourself, in the course of human history, has The State stepping in and prohibiting something ever *bettered* a situation, or merely worsened it?

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  • ACE 2012/07/21 02:14:07
    Yes
    ACE
    +1
    eliminate them.
  • Red_Horse ACE 2012/07/21 02:24:24 (edited)
  • ACE Red_Horse 2012/07/21 02:41:18
    ACE
    +5
    gun control laws. sorry for the vague answer. the only gun control i believe in is my ability to hit what i aim at.
  • Red_Horse ACE 2012/07/21 02:48:12
  • william.turner 2012/07/21 02:13:58
    No
    william.turner
    +6
    I came across this coment on another blog a while back and it was so well said I just could'nt say it any better so here it is:

    "I now live in Wyoming and I've lived in CA, AZ, NV, OR, TX, MO, IL, MI, & WI and I'll take WY any day. I like living in one of the safest states in the country, where 1 in 4 are packing and little old ladies in their 80's carry nickle plated 38s in their purses. I carry a .45acp in a shoulder rig, all day, every day, every where. I like living in a state where I can go into the Country Sheriff's office, the City Police office, the County Courthouse, and the City offices with my weapon. I like living in an area where the most common question about my carry weapon is, "Hey, what calibre?", or, "Is that an XD? Sure looks like one.".
    When someone does ask why I carry, I simply ask, "Why don't you? I accept my social responsibility to provide for my own protection and that of those around me, why don't you?"

    So, I ask all of your.
    What did our Founding Father risk their lives, their families, their fortunes, and their property for?
    Why don't you accept your personal responsibilities and man-up a bit instead of 'woosing out' and expecting someone else to 'be the man' and take care of you. Yes, this also goes for the ladies.
    There are a few places here whe...
    I came across this coment on another blog a while back and it was so well said I just could'nt say it any better so here it is:

    "I now live in Wyoming and I've lived in CA, AZ, NV, OR, TX, MO, IL, MI, & WI and I'll take WY any day. I like living in one of the safest states in the country, where 1 in 4 are packing and little old ladies in their 80's carry nickle plated 38s in their purses. I carry a .45acp in a shoulder rig, all day, every day, every where. I like living in a state where I can go into the Country Sheriff's office, the City Police office, the County Courthouse, and the City offices with my weapon. I like living in an area where the most common question about my carry weapon is, "Hey, what calibre?", or, "Is that an XD? Sure looks like one.".
    When someone does ask why I carry, I simply ask, "Why don't you? I accept my social responsibility to provide for my own protection and that of those around me, why don't you?"

    So, I ask all of your.
    What did our Founding Father risk their lives, their families, their fortunes, and their property for?
    Why don't you accept your personal responsibilities and man-up a bit instead of 'woosing out' and expecting someone else to 'be the man' and take care of you. Yes, this also goes for the ladies.
    There are a few places here where you cannot carry concealed, with or without a permit. The only places you cannot carry openly are a jail, a mental facility, the capital bldg proper (kinda stupid, that one), or places limited by 'federal' edict.
    Get trained, get educated, get a weapon, do your duty, and read USC Title 10, Subtitle A, Part 1, Chapter 13, Sections 311 and 312"
    (more)
  • Red_Horse 2012/07/21 02:11:25
  • V~POTL~PWCM~JLA 2012/07/21 02:02:45
    No
    V~POTL~PWCM~JLA
    +5
    Criminals will always get guns. The question is, "Will the victims be allowed to shoot back?" As well-intentioned as it may be, our government does a lousy job of disarming criminals. But it does a great job of harassing law-abiding citizens.

    As it is, the ATF got caught arming a Mexican drug cartel. How much government help do criminals need?
  • Paul Jordan 2012/07/21 01:49:45
    Yes
    Paul Jordan
    Some guns are manufactured for killing only. There is no need for these to be on the street. Protection is one thing, whats going on around us is another.
  • Red_Horse Paul Jo... 2012/07/21 02:12:16 (edited)
  • william... Red_Horse 2012/07/21 02:20:47
    william.turner
    +2
    Actually yes. When the military devised the 5.56 (.223 Rem) they did it so that it would wound rather than kill. In this way you would take more enemy out of the fire-fight so they could tend to the wounded.

    The .50 BMG was made to hit hard targets only.

    But the facts aside, gun control is a farse and should never be attempted
  • Red_Horse william... 2012/07/21 02:23:02
  • SoD william... 2012/07/21 03:34:55
    SoD
    A .223 Rem or 5.56 NATO round can penetrate a half inch thick steel plate and keep going. I know because I've seen it on numerous occasions.
  • Red_Horse Paul Jo... 2012/07/21 02:14:19
  • The Lib... Paul Jo... 2012/07/21 02:21:50
    The Lib Hater.
    +6
    You must be talking about the guns the 0bama administration gave away to the drug cartels in Mexico
  • Defend ... Paul Jo... 2012/07/21 02:28:01
    Defend Western Civlization
    +2
    well this is America not Nazi Germany or Nazi Iran if you hate freedom then move to Iran where they count women as property
  • Todd~AFCL Paul Jo... 2012/07/21 02:33:07
    Todd~AFCL
    +2
    Gun control laws only work on the law-abiding, so your point is worthless. As long as criminals exist, there is a need for people to be able to arm themselves with superior firepower!
    So tell me, would you also ban hunting rifles; they are only meant for killing, too. Or how about .22 pistols, shotguns, rat poison, insecticides and any other product that is legally manufactured with the primary purpose of killing something?
  • V~POTL~... Paul Jo... 2012/07/21 02:48:00
    V~POTL~PWCM~JLA
    +1
    Guns are ALREADY on the street. Most of the crimes are being committed by offenders with multiple convictions. Prison is a revolving door, with too many people getting out on early parole and heading back to a life of crime. If the government won't take these people off the street, what makes you so sure the government gives a hoot about your defense?

    Knowing this, the only question is whether or not to defend yourself.
  • SoD Paul Jo... 2012/07/21 03:32:35
    SoD
    That is incorrect. The only purpose of a firearm is to launch a projectile at high velocities downrange.
  • vinone 2012/07/21 01:48:19
    Yes
    vinone
    Something needs to change, it doesn't mean we need to lock down on guns, but people are getting shot, so something needs to change.
  • Red_Horse vinone 2012/07/21 02:15:53 (edited)
  • vinone Red_Horse 2012/07/21 02:33:04
    vinone
    +1
    I'm by no means against that, but I'm not against cracking down on guns either, but there really isn't anything we can do. It's like anything else, if people want it, they'll figure out a way to get it.
  • Red_Horse vinone 2012/07/21 02:39:14 (edited)
  • vinone Red_Horse 2012/07/21 14:26:16
    vinone
    +1
    There's really is no reason, that's why I'm pro-choice as well, because if someone wants an abortion they'll go anywhere, including a back ally, for it, but that's a different issue....

    Anyways, no I don't trust the government, although I'm honestly not worried at the moment about a runaway U.S. government, they're not stupid enough to do that...

    I also believe they're is too much control on a majority of things already, but what can we do about that is the question we really need to answer....
  • Red_Horse vinone 2012/07/21 16:42:30
  • Paul 2012/07/21 01:46:11
    No
    Paul
    +2
    My thoughts go out to the victims in CO. Definitely the acts of a crazy person.
    Would better gun control laws stopped a crazy person from doing those stunts like that? Is it time to reform gun control? I don't think so, what kind of reform would be good? While we're limiting peoples actions, shouldn't we restrict content of film productions also? probably had significant affect in the CO shootings.

    I cannot support any restriction on my rights to own and use weapons, generally for the sport of hunting, also to protect my isolated home in the country from intruders. I'll be damned if some isolated case and crazy person in CO, TX, AR or any place else influence my right/privilege to own and bear arms in an appropriate manor.
  • exhon2009 2012/07/21 01:44:29
    No
    exhon2009
    +2
    One conceal carry might have stopped the gunman.
  • tff~PWCM~JLA 2012/07/21 01:29:20
    No
    tff~PWCM~JLA
    +4
    I was wondering how many nano-seconds it was going to take you Liberal melon heads to start screaming gun control. Maybe we should get Obama and Holder's opinion. Like in a real hurry as in fast and furious.
  • JustTheFacts 2012/07/21 01:17:52
    No
    JustTheFacts
    +3
    There are more people murdered where there is gun control than where there is not. Chicago is the latest case in point.

    I new there was going to be a goofy question like this on here this evening!
  • L K 2012/07/21 01:01:09
    Yes
    L K
    +1
    YES! YES! YES!!! It is way too easy to get guns and then the wrong people have them. I have nothing against responsible people having weapons. But they go through the proper channels. We need to beef up gun control so the only people who have guns are licensed and responsible men and women and not nut cases.
  • JustThe... L K 2012/07/21 01:23:28
    JustTheFacts
    +1
    Ahhhh....pssst....ahhhh....hey Einstein.

    Right on queue the local official just said...."All the guns he possessed he possessed legally, all the bullets he possessed he possessed legally, all the clips he possessed legally."

    Feel a little out of touch with reality or do you feel he wasn't one of the "wrong people"?
  • L K JustThe... 2012/07/21 02:21:51 (edited)
    L K
    No I don't. Even my son, who owns weapons, feels the same way I do. He has a license and thinks that the availability of certain large weapons is WAY too easy. I agree with him. You can call me Einstein all you want since I am in mensa and taught gifted students for 36 years. My son is also of genius status and only an idiot would think it is okay to put the safety of our citizens in jeopardy to satisfy the likes of you. You can legally possess all the guns he had, and that proves my point. It is TOO EASY to get them. They need to stiffen the laws and make it more difficult to get guns. I personally don't think anyone should have them, but I believe in freedom and people's rights. So i think there needs to be very strict laws regulating who gets guns and basically, the people who have them better be the best members of society or they shouldn't have access to them. It is my right to want kids to be able to go the movies without being massacred.
  • Defend ... L K 2012/07/21 02:31:06
    Defend Western Civlization
    +2
    Gun control laws is the reason the shoot happened in the first place

    The unarmed man is not just defenseless, he is also contemptible.
    Machiavelli
    After a shooting spree, they always want to take the guns away from the people who didn't do it.
    William Burroughs

    "When the government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny."
    -- Thomas Jefferson
  • JustThe... L K 2012/07/21 10:51:33 (edited)
    JustTheFacts
    Chicago just instituted gun control and they have had more murders in the past year than ever before. That is the case EVERY PLACE guns laws are implemented in ANY country in the world during ANY period of history. Period.
  • L K JustThe... 2012/07/21 12:29:03 (edited)
    L K
    It needs to be on a national level where they can't go to another area and purchase machine guns like they were buying candy.
  • Paul L K 2012/07/21 02:02:19
    Paul
    +1
    I can understand your frustatration, but all the restrictions in the world aren't going to stop some lunatic from doing something stupid. When it comes to guns, either we're allowed to own guns or not, constitution says yes. Forget about restrictions that will pick and choose who is allowed the right to bear arms granted by our constitution.
  • Red_Horse Paul 2012/07/21 02:18:58
  • L K Paul 2012/07/21 02:31:11 (edited)
    L K
    The laws about having those rights can stay, but just like I had to jump through hoops to get my teaching degree, my masters, and my license and have to update it every few years, constantly taking classes, so that I know how to enrich children, stay on top of the latest education ideas and technological discoveries, people wanting to own guns need to jump through hoops for that right too. Nothing should be easy when it affects other people.. Would you want a doctor or surgeon who got a degree by just getting it on ebay????? BTW, I am not angry at you Paul, just devastated at the senseless deaths today. It breaks my heart.
  • william... L K 2012/07/21 02:48:20
    william.turner
    +4
    Yeah we see how well the education system is in our country. Funny how drugs were legal, then illegal. and now we have huge wars over control of the illegal substances. We need to realize that making something illegal or hard to obtain (legally) will just open a market for illegal style transactions. And you will make lawbreakers out of what used to be lawfull people. And for what?
  • Todd~AFCL L K 2012/07/21 02:48:57
    Todd~AFCL
    +1
    Being a teacher is NOT a RIGHT; it is a privilege. Many of those new education ideas are more about how to indoctrinate children than how to actually educate them in such a way that they learn to think for themselves, because the requirements are being designed by leftists who want drones instead of individuals.
    If the government can regulate our rights, then they can also destroy them!
  • Bozette L K 2012/07/21 10:38:21
    Bozette
    +2
    I grew up with the respect of guns...never having touched one. It was inherent in my upbringing, and those of everyone I grew up with. I knew exactly where my Dad's guns were...I also knew not to touch them. Sorry, but learning to use a gun does not require continuing education. Once you learn how to use one, it doesn't change.

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