IS IT TIME TO CUT OUR RELATIONS WITH SAUDI ARABIA? MEMBER OF SAUDI ROYAL FAMILY OFFERS ADDITIONAL $900,000 FOR KIDNAPPING AN ISRAELI SOLDIER

Should have dun that a long time ago

nuke Mecca, see how fast these terrorists STFU afterwards.

we could sever our ties with them and focus on alternative resources, but the government would have to make using gas for industrial purposes illegal.

interesting scenario

There isn't enough oil anywhere else to replace our dependence on Saudi Oil. If we open up Alaska the way some want to, our nation will be 3% less dependent on foreign oil by 2025 then we are now. That would go from about 67% dependence to to about 64%- this according to Bush Administration findings. We have supported this totalitarian state long enough.

There is no need for WWIII. Alternative fuel sources could eventually phase out our dependence- and make nations like Saudi Arabia irrelevant. Without oil they have less to offer the world than the African continent. Phase out Saudi Arabia through phasing out our dependence on oil will help us to stop creating our enemies- and establish this nation as a world leader to future energy. It is only a matter of time before the world has essentially exhausted the limited resource of oil. We have to be the leader that we like to think of ourselves as- or followers.

i don't trust data gatherers

I can understand that. It is tough to maintain a point of view when the facts get in the way.

facts become subjective according to a particular agenda
been there, done that, got the t shirt.

That is true. But that is only when other facts are left out. Check out all of the facts, and the argument makes itself. I do support what I say with facts. Of course they can be manipulated- but one cannot make the argument that we can replace our dependence on foreign oil, for example- in light of the fact that there is not enough of an oil supply elsewhere to sustain our current thirst for oil. There is no way to make that a reality when it isn't possible. At the end of the day there is really only one truth.

Facts can be misrepresented, and one's foes will be quick to point out the errors when they are. But to be dismissive of a fact based argument- well that enables one to make any assertion and claim that it is just as likely as any other assertion because anyone can misrepresent facts. The better approach is to show where the facts are being misrepresented and why, when all of the facts are considered they support your point of view. It is difficult yes, but it is also the key to making a valid argument.