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Is It Time to Abolish the 2nd Amendment or Strengthen Or Resolve to Retain It?

Andrew 2012/07/26 22:31:24
It Is Time to Strengthen Our Resolve to Retain the Second Amendment
The Second Amendment Is Outdated and Has Outlived Its Usefullness.
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There are approximately 12 to 15 million illegal aliens in the United States. Our political leaders and advocates for these illegal immigrants claim that the job of rounding up and deporting them is just too big, so we might as well just grant them legal status and be done with it. If so, consider the following!

There are approximately 300 million firearms in the United States. Yet, many of the same political leaders and advocates who throw up their hands in defeat over illegal immigrants are more than willing to endeavor to collect all the firearms across this land. In fact, Barack Obama and Eric Holder couldn't keep track of about 2000 weapons which they authorized to be sold to Mexican Drug Cartels. They had the serial numbers, they knew the criminals who purchased the weapons, knew the date and time of the sales and still couldn't keep track of them. Pray tell, how do they expect to find and confiscate all those weapons even if it were prudent and Constitutional?!

The naked truth is that it is a matter of WILL, not ability. Regressives want to legalize all illegals because they are building an army to overwhelm law abiding American citizens in future elections. Quite truthfully, this is VOTER FRAUD on a massive scale. We ought to REQUIRE our leaders to come up with a solution to illegal immigration and the plan to deport those that are here. If they can't , those that resist should be driven from office!

Conversely, these same people who are relentless in their quest to strip us of our Second Amendment guarantee, do so, not to save lives, but to render law abiding Americans powerless against wholesale infringement of the other nine Amendments contained in the Bill of Rights! If you think their recent efforts to subvert the Constitution are brazen, imagine what they will do without concern that those whom they wish to enslave might not surrender willingly, and that they, in fact have the means to resist!

Everyone would like a society, free from fear. The fact is, government cannot provide it and has presided over some of the most fearful times in world history. As a side note, those fearful times were almost invariably preceeded by the confiscation of the people's means of self defense. Removing guns from society will not eliminate fear or threats. May I remind you that Timothy McVeigh accomplished murder on a scale fourteen times as devastating as Aurora, CO without the use of a firearm. Fear is part of life and as long as evil exists, fear will be present as well. What we must have is the ability to respond when a threat is imminent, regardless of its source. Firearms are a legitimate and capable means of dealing with real threats. A few law abiding citizens with concealed handguns may have averted the Aurora, CO tragedy completely or seriously minimized the damage. Such cowards as Holmes will think twice if they count the cost and understand that their intentions for their victims could very likely be their fate as well.

Those who advocate the abolition of firearms are either incredibly naive and trusting, or have sinister intentions. We must continue to resist and defeat them to retain our right to viable self defense tools against those who surely will NOT relinquish them if they are outlawed and confiscated.
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  • NPC 2012/07/26 22:40:29
    It Is Time to Strengthen Our Resolve to Retain the Second Amendment
    NPC
    +3
    Nobody can change the 2nd Amerdment. Barack needs the redneck Liberal voters. .

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  • Darnel 2012/11/16 18:35:20
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    Darnel
    With respect to all the strong feelings here:
    This is Fear mongering.
    the NDAA is an OLD document tweaked by EVERY president as he comes in,..

    The 2nd Amendment is not going anywhere,.. and before you trot out that United Nations lie: http://www.snopes.com/politic...

    In regards to our border we need to just decide:
    Open or Closed.

    As far as the Illegals,.. they get a choice,.. Hop through the hoops and pay to become citizens,.. Or leave.

    This isn't rocket science.
  • gracious43 2012/09/23 19:14:20
    It Is Time to Strengthen Our Resolve to Retain the Second Amendment
    gracious43
    +1
    Regardless of whether or not I have a gun, or even if I esteem the wisdom of owning a gun, this is our Bill of Rights, without which the constitution would have never been ratified. If the second amendment is abolished, why not the first?

    The Bill of rights is what makes our nation great.
  • Andrew gracious43 2012/09/24 09:16:05
    Andrew
    +1
    Our govenmental structure and balance of powers was brilliiant, but pales in importance to the Bill of Rights!
  • Arizona1950 2012/09/23 19:12:09
    It Is Time to Strengthen Our Resolve to Retain the Second Amendment
    Arizona1950
    +1
    by not supporting any candidate who supports the NDAA ... the first big step of taking down our Constitution and enacting Sharia Law. But it took a lot of little steps to get us there ... please, do not vote the status quo of tyranny.
  • Mamaknows 2012/09/23 17:56:10
    It Is Time to Strengthen Our Resolve to Retain the Second Amendment
    Mamaknows
    +1
    Want peace prepaire for war
    or
    Better to not need it then need it and not have it.

    Guns are a major part of our culture and I would never vote for anyone that does not completly support our RIGHT to keep and bear arms. Simple as that.
  • MichaelDillon 2012/09/23 17:53:21 (edited)
    It Is Time to Strengthen Our Resolve to Retain the Second Amendment
    MichaelDillon
    +1
    concord and lexington
    rifel



    pistol on hip

    All safety certified adults should be free to carry unless revoked for crimes or judged unfit by court (Improper action by court officers should be a felony offense resulting in instant deportation or 5 years on a chain gang ((defendants pick))
  • none 2012/09/23 17:26:22
    It Is Time to Strengthen Our Resolve to Retain the Second Amendment
    none
    +1
    Everyone has the right to protect themselves and their family, the Second Amendment has always worked and it always will as long as it's left alone.
  • heirsoftheking 2012/09/23 17:09:30
    It Is Time to Strengthen Our Resolve to Retain the Second Amendment
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  • DuncanONeil 2012/09/23 17:06:13
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    DuncanONeil
    +1
    Why would anyone think weakening it is a good idea. I have heard rumors that the fist ten stand or fall as a unit. But like I said rumors.

    The oft heard refrain has nothing to do with rights but a fear. The founders were quite clear;
    "James Madison was put in charge of drafting the Bill of Rights and that his purpose was to incorporate the proposals of the "Pennsylvania minority, Sam Adams, and the New Hampshire delegates." One of the several rights that he proposed was that,

    "The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed; a well armed and well regulated militia being the best security of a free country; but no person religiously scrupulous of bearing arms shall be compelled to render military service in person."

    Several changes were then made to the proposal, and according to the report,

    "The Senate in the process indicated its intent that the right be an individual one, for private purposes, by rejecting an amendment which would have limited the keeping and bearing of arms to bearing 'for the common defense.'"" ( http://www.saf.org/MilitiaAnd... )
  • Flamingolady 2012/09/23 16:09:18
    It Is Time to Strengthen Our Resolve to Retain the Second Amendment
    Flamingolady
    +1
    I don't want to be part of the ya yaing going on here, I just don't think the 2nd Amendment should ever be revoked, and that there is something to be said about the theory that the Japanese would not have invaded us, knowing likely all Americans owned guns. If it is true, good, if it is an urban legend, I don't give a hoot, I just like the thought that this might be true and could possibly be a deterrent in the future.
  • Mark 2012/09/22 16:27:01
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    Mark
    The only reason to carry a gun is fear.
    What is the fear?
    Other people with guns? A porous border with violent mexicans?
    What would eradicate the fear?
  • Andrew Mark 2012/09/22 20:10:53 (edited)
    Andrew
    Have you ever heard of hunting, sport shooting or just plain gun collecting? Do you really believe you could eliminate all guns? Are you suggesting that fear is a bad thing? Do you fear absolutely nothing and if you do fear something, what steps do you take to alleviate that fear? Do you bury your head in the sand and pretend there is nothing to fear? If their are deadly deseases floating about, do you attempt to get as close to them as possible or do you avoid them and take steps to eradicate the deadly disease? Seems to me, your argument doesn't make much sense!
  • Mark Andrew 2012/09/22 20:12:52
    Mark
    Wasnt an argument, it was a query.
  • Andrew Mark 2012/09/22 20:15:07
    Andrew
    What's the answer?
  • Andrew Mark 2012/09/22 20:12:38
    Andrew
    Perhaps, I am misinterpreting your post?
  • Arizona... Mark 2012/09/23 19:16:09
    Arizona1950
    +1
    Not too informed are you ...

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  • Mark Arizona... 2012/09/23 21:06:29
    Mark
    So who was more sane?
    The man who shot his old boss outside the Empire State or the policemen who shot 9 innocent bystanders?
  • Arizona... Mark 2012/09/23 22:34:58
    Arizona1950
    +1
    I can't speak for the badshot of the policeman ... but I wonder how many would have been saved at Virginia Tech and at the Batman premier to name but two.
  • Dwight-AFCL>dogsbody 2012/09/22 15:52:15
    It Is Time to Strengthen Our Resolve to Retain the Second Amendment
    Dwight-AFCL>dogsbody
    +1
    Once the 2nd is gone, there is no possible resistance to Government encroachment.
  • Arizona... Dwight-... 2012/09/23 22:36:13
    Arizona1950
    +1
    The 2nd Amendment will do little against the 30,000 drones the DEM/GOP tyranny wish to put in the air by 2016. Can't hit what you can't see or hear.
  • Robin 2012/09/22 15:48:24
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  • Andrew Robin 2012/09/22 20:11:56
    Andrew
    Thanks! Very Valid Point!
  • Kat 2012/09/07 21:03:31
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    Kat
    +1
    We need to abolish crime.
  • Andrew Kat 2012/09/07 22:43:52
    Andrew
    +1
    Guns are a deterant to crime!
  • Kat Andrew 2012/09/07 22:45:54
    Kat
    +1
    Yes, they certainly are as is a concealed carry permit. If they don't know who's armed it makes them think twice.
  • Jensenmk 2012/07/27 04:27:13
    It Is Time to Strengthen Our Resolve to Retain the Second Amendment
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    +2
    The fight to destroy the 2nd Amendment has continued for decades; our largest voice, NRA, hasn't always been completely faithful. The NRA has fallen victim to the 'divide and conquer' process utilized by progressives to chip away at our rights.

    The Second Amendment is in place to enable the citizenry to stop a tyrannical US goverment and is meant to ensure that we the citizens, have access/ownership to the same weapons needed to so, period. Any laws that are contrary to the Second Amendment should be repealed (Gun Control Acts of '89, '68, '34) and states that are infringing on our rights should repeal those laws as well. The Act of '89 has effectively made machine guns unavailable due to no new ones being manufactured or imported for private ownership, thereby freezing the supply and driving up the prices for those that remain; thank you President Bush for succombing to progressive/liberal pressure and throwing us under the bus.
  • Andrew Jensenmk 2012/07/27 07:31:38
    Andrew
    +1
    Agreed!
  • MarinerFH 2012/07/26 23:27:55
    It Is Time to Strengthen Our Resolve to Retain the Second Amendment
    MarinerFH
    +2
    The 2nd Amendment needs to be reinforced.
  • Andrew MarinerFH 2012/07/26 23:36:50
    Andrew
    +2
    And alot of unConstitutional infringements by cities and states across this country need to be repealed!
  • MarinerFH Andrew 2012/07/26 23:44:08
    MarinerFH
    +2
    Absolutely correct. Thanks.
  • Eddie_says_OrlyTaitez_is_nutz 2012/07/26 22:47:50
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    +1
    NEVER EVER should the second amendment be abolished.

    I am not a gun owner, nor any desire to become one.

    I am however perplexed as to why "ordinary citizens" who are neither law enforcement or military have a need for automatic weapons.

    Are the deers and bears massing in numbers to attack us?
  • Andrew Eddie_s... 2012/07/26 22:52:28
    Andrew
    Who had a fully automatic weapon? They have been banned for years!
  • Eddie_s... Andrew 2012/07/26 22:56:51
    Eddie_says_OrlyTaitez_is_nutz
    +1
    Well the most recent is John Holmes (Aurora Colorado shooting).
    And assault weapons ban expired in 2004.

    Not a grocery list, but come to mind immediately.
  • Andrew Eddie_s... 2012/07/26 22:58:46
    Andrew
    +2
    He used a semi-automatic weapon. Not an automatic one. Sorry to disappoint you, but you're wrong.
  • Eddie_s... Andrew 2012/07/26 23:03:06
    Eddie_says_OrlyTaitez_is_nutz
    Nope -- not all facts have been released.... it's only been suggested that it was automated.

    But thanks for speaking in his defense.
  • Andrew Eddie_s... 2012/07/26 23:10:17
    Andrew
    +2
    Don't be stupid. I speak in defense of the 2nd Amendment. Only a fool would seek to misconstrue that fact!
  • NPC 2012/07/26 22:40:29
    It Is Time to Strengthen Our Resolve to Retain the Second Amendment
    NPC
    +3
    Nobody can change the 2nd Amerdment. Barack needs the redneck Liberal voters. .
  • Andrew NPC 2012/07/26 22:44:15
    Andrew
    +1
    Agreed! He is using the fear tactics I am sure he will accuse us of when we stand in defense of the 2nd Amendment!
  • kevracer 2012/07/26 22:34:14
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    kevracer
    +1
    unfortunately our forefathers who framed the Constituion and the Bill of Rights did not write the Second Amendment very clearly as its been open to intrepetation for the last 100 years. It is now such a hot button issue that it can never be revised or corrected.
  • Andrew kevracer 2012/07/26 22:41:12
    Andrew
    +2
    What is NOT clear about "the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall NOT be infringed."

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