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Is it time that we start using our National guard to guard the border?

☆stillthe12c☆ 2012/07/03 18:20:39
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Our Border Patrols and ICE agents are walking targets. In some area's they have been told to run and hide from armed intruders crossing the border. Today again we have an ICE agent shot while conducting an investigation.

HARGILL, Texas (AP) - A sheriff says a federal agent shot while conducting surveillance near a rural South Texas town is out of surgery and in stable condition.

http://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/story/18942035/ice-agent-shot-in...
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  • Wolfman ☆stillt... 2012/07/06 04:16:17
    Wolfman
    Putting the National Guard on the border won't fix any of that. Join the TEA Party, find a local group, get loud and fix it.

    http://www.teapartypatriots.org/
  • ☆stillt... Wolfman 2012/07/06 01:38:36
    ☆stillthe12c☆
    +1
    They are not just picking peaches. I wish that was case. They are taking good paying jobs in construction from American citizens. I watched a report on TV that said that after Katrina 70% of the reconstruction was being done by illegals. I have ran into many Molders that were from Mexico and here illegally. That is a $20/hr. job.
  • Wolfman ☆stillt... 2012/07/06 04:23:45
    Wolfman
    +1
    I am not against controlling the border. The National Guard is the wrong group to stop illegals from laying sheet-rock, too. The Border Patrol is the right group. Push for more border patrol, drones, and more budget for equipment.

    The DEA is the right group to stop drug trafficking. But Obie says there is no problem on the border.

    Obie is the problem.
  • ☆stillt... Wolfman 2012/07/06 04:35:19
    ☆stillthe12c☆
    +1
    I am not sure if the DEA is equipped to handle the job either. They are better armed than the Border Patrol. Maybe we should ship Obie to the south west corner of Arizona and see how long he last.
  • Wolfman ☆stillt... 2012/07/06 04:43:57
    Wolfman
    +1
    Everybody has SWAT now including the DEA, IRS, and the EPA. No, I'm not kidding. They can use the BATF for cannon fodder against the drug cartels. The BATF needs to be shooting at someone besides women holding babies at Ruby Ridge and they can stop setting children on fire at Waco anyway. Yeah, send Obie south and make him take Holder with him.
  • ☆stillt... Wolfman 2012/07/06 04:59:47
    ☆stillthe12c☆
    +1
    I would love too. I would like to do it before Nov. myself. You forgot the 14 year old boy they shot in the back at Ruby Ridge. I have not forgot. Not one of them went to jail. If the good old boys had known what was going to happen I am sure things would have gone very differently for the Government men.
  • Wolfman ☆stillt... 2012/07/06 05:06:42
    Wolfman
    +1
    I didn't forget. I'll never forget. My point is to use those SWATs and BATF against the drug cartels. Let them dress up in black and go up against somebody that shoots back.
  • ☆stillt... Wolfman 2012/07/06 05:12:44 (edited)
    ☆stillthe12c☆
    +1
    I want to hear on the news one day 20 cartel members shot and killed in southwest Arizona. They have some fine Quail hunting down there. It has been about 25 years since I went there. I had a bunch of javelina get after me when I boxed them in canyon. Should have seen go up those walls Lol
    I did not dare shot at them with that bird shot.
  • Wolfman ☆stillt... 2012/07/06 05:16:49
    Wolfman
    +1
    Sounds good to me. I would like to see a couple of air strikes on the cartels.
  • ☆stillt... Wolfman 2012/07/06 05:19:40
    ☆stillthe12c☆
    +1
    I would not even care if they used some of the drones to take them out.
  • Wolfman ☆stillt... 2012/07/06 05:26:35 (edited)
    Wolfman
    +1
    We need cooperation Mexico to hit them in their nests. That won't happen. You can bet they'll be traveling and nesting with women and children.
  • ☆stillt... Wolfman 2012/07/06 06:25:52
    ☆stillthe12c☆
    +1
    We will have to call them colladeral damage or we need to use snippers. We need to be just as ruthless as the advisery. I know that we wont be. Obama does not seem to have that problem in the middle east.
  • Wolfman ☆stillt... 2012/07/06 06:34:06
    Wolfman
    +1
    No, that won't be.
  • ☆stillt... Wolfman 2012/07/06 06:49:04
    ☆stillthe12c☆
    +1
    I use to have a friend that would have loved the duty of taken out the dirtbags. The guy could make head shots at 400 yards. That was with iron sites.
  • Wolfman ☆stillt... 2012/07/06 06:54:51
    Wolfman
    Still need the cooperation of Mexico to kill them in their nests.
  • Turings... Wolfman 2012/07/05 04:28:18
    TuringsChild
    Killing American border agents is a misdemeanor? Really?
  • Wolfman Turings... 2012/07/05 06:41:22
    Wolfman
    Crossing the border is a misdemeanor. Really. Why do you want to murder border patrol agents? Do you smuggle both drugs and people across the border?
  • Turings... Wolfman 2012/07/05 15:50:07
  • Wolfman Turings... 2012/07/05 17:58:24
  • Turings... Wolfman 2012/07/05 18:11:54
    TuringsChild
    I can see that there's no way for me to fix your 'stupid', so I'm dropping this thread. You've got it bass aackwards, just like a good liberal Useful Idiot should.
  • Wolfman Turings... 2012/07/05 22:57:21
    Wolfman
    I'm glad that you are dropping this thread because you make no sense at all. You liberals belong elsewhere.
  • mary E Wolfman 2012/07/08 01:03:05
    mary E
    I am quite sure that if the current health care package can be forced on us, and it was, then our Congress could manage to pass new and delete old laws and regulations to facilitate us having a military presence on the border!

    If it were done right, there would be few deaths. The illegals would very soon be willing to place their name on the list for legal entry.

    But, don't think I hate and/or don't sympathize with the illegals! I would do the same as they are doing if I lived down there. That is, if I could get by with it.

    But, the best solution would be to let the states take care of their own specific problems, don'tcha tink?
  • Striker 2012/07/04 03:28:23
    Do you agree that is time to protect our borders?
    Striker
    +1
    But first things first, which is that the States must take over each their part of the "National" Guard. It must revert to the State Guard, not only to protect our borders, but also so that the States can protect themselves against FedGov. This will become critical when it comes to secession or revolution or martial law.
  • ☆stillt... Striker 2012/07/04 03:33:17
    ☆stillthe12c☆
    Good thought!
  • Striker ☆stillt... 2012/07/04 03:35:59
    Striker
    +1
    I'm trying to produce an article on this for my website (it'll be shared here)
  • ☆stillt... Striker 2012/07/04 04:23:44
    ☆stillthe12c☆
    +1
    Thank You!! Let me know when you post it Please!
  • Striker ☆stillt... 2012/07/04 06:12:57
    Striker
    +1
    okay, sure. It may take a few days, but I'll try to remember. Wish this SH place had a notepad !
  • Daniel 2012/07/04 03:02:09
    Do you agree that is time to protect our borders?
    Daniel
    +1
    Only if the national Guard troops are Oath keepers, we do not need more storm troopers of the FED's/ NWO/DNC/GOP Oath keepers that are sworn to protect and serve the constitution and the Loyal American Citizens. liberity freedom fighters
  • ☆stillt... Daniel 2012/07/04 03:03:30
    ☆stillthe12c☆
    +1
    I hear that my friend.
  • ConLibFraud 2012/07/04 02:19:41
    Do you agree that is time to protect our borders?
    ConLibFraud
    +3
    But not with the national guard! Implement a national plea for our military to come home and rescue their country and put up a fence around DC and call it the National Penitentiary. Then put all of them (politicians and judges) and their bankers on trial and punish them for treason. Then head straight to our borders!!!!
  • ☆stillt... ConLibF... 2012/07/04 02:23:28
    ☆stillthe12c☆
    +3
    Now that a great idea. I would take personal pleasure in arresting Pelosi, Harry Reid and Obama, if I could have the honor please.
  • ConLibF... ☆stillt... 2012/07/04 02:25:04
    ConLibFraud
    +2
    You got it! But I am the chief investigator.
  • ☆stillt... ConLibF... 2012/07/04 02:41:32
    ☆stillthe12c☆
    +2
    That fine by me.
  • ConLibF... ☆stillt... 2012/07/04 13:42:21
    ConLibFraud
    Please spread the word.
  • zapped 2012/07/04 01:58:29
    Do you agree that is time to protect our borders?
    zapped
    +3
    well something needs to be done ...
  • ☆stillt... zapped 2012/07/04 02:04:08
    ☆stillthe12c☆
    +1
    I agree!
  • Ken 2012/07/04 00:59:54
    Do you agree that is time to protect our borders?
    Ken
    +2
    It is way past time to secure our borders.
  • ☆stillt... Ken 2012/07/04 01:28:06
    ☆stillthe12c☆
    +2
    One of the biggest mistakes ever made by Reagan was when gave them amnesty. He promised to seal the border and it never happened. I had all kinds of people asking me to verify that they had been in the US for 5 years. I refused everyone.
  • Ken ☆stillt... 2012/07/04 05:08:00
    Ken
    +1
    Another problem is not having a farm-worker program so agriculture can get the laborers, legally, to work the fields. Most of those jobs are jobs that Americans will not work at, field labor. We used to have what was called the "Bracero Program" that allowed farmers to get temporary green cards for workers, bus them to their farms and house them there, and then take them back across the border when the season was over. In addition to securing the border, a program like that is a necessity.

    As for Reagan and the amnesty for 5 million illegals, that was another of his attempts to be bipartisan with a Democrat-controlled congress that didn't work out. Republicans need to learn that to a Democrat, being "bipartisan" only means that they get their way.
  • santa6642 2012/07/03 23:24:11
    Do you agree that is time to protect our borders?
    santa6642
    +3
    And shoot on site.No excuse.

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