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Is it time for Patriotic American citizens to take up arms against Right Wing Terrorists?

Lee 2012/08/06 16:48:46
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A Right Wing Terrorist strikes again, this time killing
Sikhs in Wisconsin. Is it time for Patriotic American citizens to
take up arms against Right Wing Terrorists?

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  • kyle 2012/08/07 00:03:49
    Undecided
    kyle
    Oh common. Neo-Nazis are not right wing. They are Neo-Nazis. Nazis were far more left wing back in the day.
  • Lee kyle 2012/08/07 01:40:55 (edited)
    Lee
    BS . . . Nazis are right wing.

    Nazism is a type of Fascism and Fascism is Right Wing Socialism.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

    Nationalistic and xenophobic neo-Nazis who hate a multicultural society are indeed Right Wing Nut Job creeps.

    Anders Brevik is another good example or a Right Winger opposed to a multicultural society.

    http://www.cnn.com/2012/04/17...

    http://kenanmalik.wordpress.c...
  • kyle Lee 2012/08/07 02:37:12 (edited)
    kyle
    So environmental protection, animal rights, expanding government jobs are right wing?
  • Lee kyle 2012/08/07 02:42:56
    Lee
    Not necessarily. Why do you ask?
  • kyle Lee 2012/08/07 18:54:51 (edited)
    kyle
    Hitler was not a right wing extremist. He had extreme views on both sides of the spectrum. He was a tyrant and evil man. No need to throw out the left and right labels when they are not even irrelevant. Hitler wanted power, so he used left and right ideas to get more power. That does not make him a right wing extremist, but instead that makes him an extremist.
  • Lee kyle 2012/08/07 22:56:49
    Lee
    Wrong.

    Hitler was a nationalistic, xenophobic, racist, Aryan Supremacist, Right Wing Nut Job piece of scum . . . not at all unlike a good percentage of self-described Conservatives right here on SodaHead.

    "A majority of scholars identify Nazism in practice as a form of far-right politics."

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

    Of course, a small minority of "scholars" (Right Wing extremist nut jobs) try to deny that Nazism is right wing.

    Just accept the facts. Hitler was a right wing extremist piece of garbage . . . a waste of oxygen . . . and a waste of space.
  • Superman 2012/08/06 19:36:29
    Undecided
    Superman
    So, this presumes that you can pick out who these nuts are yourself without any help?

    Or are you just promoting violence against people you don't like politically in general by scapegoating the acts of a crazy person?
  • Lee Superman 2012/08/06 22:47:10 (edited)
    Lee
    The People who carry out the actual violence are not the source of that violence.

    They are only the thugs who do the bidding of demagogues.

    And the demagogues are much easier to identify. After all, they have the soap box, they are the loudest voices, who like Hitler, claim to be the voice of Reason.

    It is no coincidence that Rush Limbaugh and others of these "voices of reason" ranted continuously for months about the evils of the Federal government prior to McVeigh's demolition of a Federal building and the murder of innocent civilians.

    It doesn't matter that Limbaugh is really just an entertainer who excites the mindless rabble for the purpose of building listenership, market share, and advertising revenue.

    What matters is that when he and his kind do so, they cause massive damage to the fragile psyches of their listeners, which in turn inspires them to commit murder.

    Hitler never actually killed anybody. But he encouraged the murder of innocents by Right Wing Extremist thugs in the same way that Rush Limbaugh and others of his ilk do today. Like Rush Limbaugh et al, Hitler committed his monstrous crimes purely by exercising his right to free speech.

    No, the villains behind today's murderous villains are easy to identify . . . No problem there.
  • Superman Lee 2012/08/07 03:07:26
    Superman
    Godwins Law in practice.

    I'm pretty sure Hitler did a lot more to incite and shepherd violence then spout a few talking points.

    Whats funny here is that your complaining here about someone "inciting" violence when they're just using their free speech to share a political view point. Meanwhile you're the one ACTUALLY inciting violence. I would call you a hypocrite if it weren't so obvious.

    Whats sad is that you'd use a tragedy in an effort to silence free speech by assigning the actions of a crazy person to people with whos political opinion you want to silence. You're making a mockery of murder to suit your own agenda.

    I can see a villain as clear as day, its a shame you don't own a damn mirror.
  • Lee Superman 2012/08/07 03:31:41
    Lee
    Well, I guess you could say that anyone who advocates self defense is advocating violence.

    Guilty as charged.

    However, I believe that we Americans have the right to defend ourselves against terrorists.

    Free speech is not free when people lose their lives because of it.

    Domestic terrorists and the demagogues who incited them must be held accountable, and their murderous actions should be interdicted.

    Is it immoral to kill in self-defense? I don't think so.
  • Superman Lee 2012/08/07 03:47:48
    Superman
    You aren't advocating self defense. In this case self defense would simply be using the second amendment to be armed in case someone goes insane and attacks you. Thats self defense.

    You're advocating political assassination, no matter how cute you try to get as far as phrasing it.

    The bottom line is that there isn't a talking head out there advocating violence and murder. All they do is talk about political issues that you clearly disagree with.

    Meanwhile you are clearly advocating offensive (not defensive) violence against people with whos political views you find troubling. You're clearly worse then the people you're slandering.
  • Lee Superman 2012/08/07 11:45:27 (edited)
    Lee
    I advocate self-defense.

    No action now on the part of American citizens against murderous Right Wing demagogues can reasonably be considered "offensive."

    The first blows have been struck . . . REPEATEDLY . . . by Right Wing Terrorists against innocent Americans. Right Wing demagoguery creates those terrorists and the climate of hate that drives them.

    We citizens have a right to self-defense.

    Perhaps It is time for innocent Americans to fight back.
  • Superman Lee 2012/08/07 14:29:09
    Superman
    More violent rhetoric without evidence to back up your statements. Basically, blah blah blah - you're a violent ideologue talking out your ass. No respect for the Constitution or due process.
  • Lee Superman 2012/08/07 15:04:50 (edited)
    Lee
    "Violent rhetoric?"

    Recognizing a need for self-defense is "violent rhetoric?"

    I don't think so.

    Is my "violent rhetoric" something more terrible than being murdered by Right Wing thugs?

    I have great respect for the Constitution.

    Thank God for the second amendment, which facilitates our ability to protect ourselves from murdering Right Wing Nut Jobs.

    I am suggesting that we citizens have a right to defend ourselves through a sensible application of the second amendment.

    Right Wing Extremists, inspired by evil Right Wing Demagogues, have murdered far too many of us.

    Isn't it reasonable to fight back?

    Or do you think we should passively let ourselves be slaughtered by Right Wing maniacs ?
  • Superman Lee 2012/08/07 15:44:48
    Superman
    You haven't evidenced a need for "self-defense". You haven't connected any dots with evidence. And you certainly haven't made a solid claim to your own well being.

    Being murdered by a lunatic is awful and being murdered on the word of an internet blogger because you don't have the right politics is jsut as bad.

    You have no respect for the Constitution, no respect for free speech. You're advocating murder because you disagree with what someones says and implies without any evidence that it lead to something done by a crazy person.

    You spit on the Constitution.

    Further, you suggest the 2nd Amendment be used as a tool of violence to silence innocent people because they bother you another clear violation of the document.

    I think you should step into reality where awful things are done by crazy people but where people that have different political views are allowed that freedom without the threat of political assassination via "mob" justice.
  • Lee Superman 2012/08/07 22:59:08
    Lee
    Of course I respect the Constitution.

    Long live the Second Amendment !

    And no, I don't advocate murder. I advocate self-defense.
  • Superman Lee 2012/08/07 23:11:53
    Superman
    The more you repeat yourself without evidencing a link to substantiate your premise the more of an ignorant fool you look like and the less credibility you have. So, assuming your next reply will be some version of everything else you've said, I think you've dug a big enough hole for yourself.
  • Lee Superman 2012/08/07 23:16:57
    Lee
    lol

    The more you splutter and the more you project your obvious deficiencies onto others, the more you define yourself.

    . . .NUT JOB
  • Lee Superman 2012/08/07 11:54:44 (edited)
    Lee
    I forgot to mention, Godwin's Law does not apply to discussions of Right wing Extremism, demagoguery, nationalism, xenophobia, genocide, neo-Nazism, and racism, which of course this thread is all about.

    Here, comparisons to Nazi Germany are more than appropriate.
  • Superman Lee 2012/08/07 14:29:26
    Superman
    Wow, you're insane.
  • Lee Superman 2012/08/07 15:05:50
    Lee
    Oh?? And why would you say a crazy thing like that?
  • Superman Lee 2012/08/07 15:46:22
    Superman
    Because you're heads so far up your own ideology that you're hypocritically calling for political assassinations of people you clearly irrationally hate due to their politics. And thats gone so far that you can't even accept something silly like Godwins Law being applied to you on the internet without trying to rationalize it.
  • Lee Superman 2012/08/07 23:08:51 (edited)
    Lee
    I'm saying that American citizens have the right to defend themselves against murdering Right Wing Extremists.

    What is so insane about that?

    Yes, Godwin's law IS silly. And if if emphasizing something so silly is an indication of insanity . . . then . . . why do you keep bringing it up?

    You certainly do put a lot of emphasis on Godwins's so-called Law . . . so ridiculous and inconsequential.

    Why does it dominate your posts?

    . . . Have you ever considered . . . . Maybe YOU are insane?


    Know what I mean? . . . NUT JOB
  • Superman Lee 2012/08/07 23:13:11
    Superman
    And now I'm on the execution list, gotcha . . . .

    You know, I used to laugh off the communist crap they painted Obama with, but Jesus Christ you followers are scary.
  • Lee Superman 2012/08/07 23:25:39
    Lee
    Are you on the "execution list?"

    How are you going to do it?

    Just curious . . . . And I respect you so much that I won't even try talking you out of it.

    You know what's best for you.

    Besides . . . the next life is bound to be more pleasant for you than this one.

    Say hello to the Wizard Lizard for me.
  • ConLibFraud 2012/08/06 17:32:25
    No – We should let Right Wing Domestic Terrorists have their way. Maybe Law e...
    ConLibFraud
    Who says it was right wing terrorists?
  • Bill 2012/08/06 17:18:29
    No – We should let Right Wing Domestic Terrorists have their way. Maybe Law e...
    Bill
    Wow, this question has put you on the outer limit of the outer fringe of far left wing lunacy. I sincerely hope that the government has put you on a watch list.
  • Lee Bill 2012/08/06 17:34:41 (edited)
    Lee
    No . . . This question puts me squarely in the middle of the concerned-citizens segment of the American population.

    If someone would have posed such a question in the late 1920's in Germany, when Hitler's Nazi Brown Shirts first began exterminating Non-Aryans, perhaps Hitler's rise to power (and of course WWII) could have been completely averted.

    Are you suggesting we should follow in the tradition of those oh so politically correct "good Germans" who, although they didn't agree with those xenophobically inspired murders, did nothing at all to stop them?

    And because they did nothing to stop it, those sporadic murders of a few people, and then a few dozen people, and then a few hundred people gradually grew into the highly systematic extermination of millions of non-Aryans . . . who were deemed unacceptable and detrimental to the German nation by those wonderful Right Wing extremists, the Nazis.

    A bullet in the head of Adolph Hitler in 1928 would have done wonders to guarantee world peace.

    And let's not forget that Hitler personally did NOT kill anyone. He merely exercised his freedom of speech and encouraged others to kill.
  • Bill Lee 2012/08/06 17:51:28
    Bill
    LOL, you have no proof whatsoever that the guy who killed the Sikhs was even right wing, however it's been confirmed that both the Aurora shooter and the Arizona shooter were left wing loons. I think it's about time America rises up with guns against these leftist terrorists.
  • Lee Bill 2012/08/06 17:56:01 (edited)
    Lee
    Let's see your so-called confirmations.

    links please.

    The guy who killed the Sikhs was an unabashed Right Winger . . . a nationalistic, xenophobic, white-supremacist, Nazi son of a b*tch.

    http://www.bloomberg.com/news...

    Why do you think he targeted people who wear turbans?
  • Bronar 2012/08/06 17:12:04
    Yes - Obviously Law enforcement not getting the job done. It’s time for rea...
    Bronar
    So your saying left wing terrorists are ok and should be left alone?
  • Lee Bronar 2012/08/06 17:16:26
    Lee
    Left Wing Terrorists have not been a problem since the 1970's.

    Right Wing Terrorists are a clear and present danger.
  • keymanjim Lee 2012/08/06 17:18:04
    keymanjim
    +1
    OWS

    'nuff said?
  • Bill Lee 2012/08/06 17:21:24
    Bill
    +2
    The Aurora shooter was a left wing loon, just like you.

    So was the Gabby's shooter in Arizona, who used to work as one of her volunteers.
  • Lee Bill 2012/08/06 17:41:47
    Lee
    lol

    So you say . . . . but the facts don't support you.

    Please provide a link to any REPUTABLE source that might support your view.
  • Lee Bronar 2012/08/06 17:18:59
    Lee
    As I indicated in an earlier post . . . "A neo-Nazi xenophobe who resists multiculturalism with violence is a Right Wing Nut Job Deeeeluxe . . . of the kind so well represented right here on Soda Head.

    This guy was an American Anders Breivik . . . following in the glorious tradition of other American Right Wing Domestic Terrorists like Timothy McVeigh.

    I say it's time to stop these Repugnant Thugs."
  • Grabitz 2012/08/06 17:09:09
    Undecided
    Grabitz
    +1
    How do you know it was a right winger or are you in here trying to separate the people ?
  • Kyra 2012/08/06 17:04:05
    Yes - Obviously Law enforcement not getting the job done. It’s time for rea...
    Kyra
    It's all so fake.
  • JMCC 2012/08/06 17:03:48
    Undecided
    JMCC
    I believe that however tempting it may seem, it is the first step on a very slippery slope.

    After all that is how witch hunts started...
  • Lee JMCC 2012/08/06 19:05:55
    Lee
    But there's a big difference.

    The so-called Witches weren't really witches. They weren't real.

    Right Wing Domestic Terrorists ARE real . . . and so are the demagogues who incite them to violence.

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