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KCurtis 2012/07/16 17:09:15
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There's a poll on SH that actually infers Romney should step down over the so called Bain Capital scandal, what scandal? Is it a scandal that they made money and lots of it under a free market system? Is it a scandal that they salvaged good businesses and closed bad ones. Is it a scandal that some jobs were off shored when it made better business sense?

Let's cover that last one for a few minutes. What about GE, General Electric a company that donates heftily to the DNC and Obama? Is that a scandal? What about General Motors? They offshore a lot of jobs with plants all over the world. They also donate a lot to Obama and the DNC and President Obama actually bailed them out with American Taxpayer's money. Is that a scandal?

Isn't actually more of a scandal to attempt to subsidize businesses with Taxpayer money, like Solindra when it made no sense to attempt to in-source jobs building solar panels when China already has the market cornered?

The scandal is not anything to do with Romney and Bain Capital, they told the truth about what they do; they make capital. Obama is the one lying about not out sourcing American jobs when in fact he is the biggest out sourcer of American jobs since taking office. His Obamacare Plans, EPA Regulators, IRS agenda and down right destructive attitude of business is clearly the biggest proponent of offshoring, outsourcing and just general screwing of the American worker in the last 200 years of this country.
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  • CAPISCE eyes wi... 2012/07/17 13:17:24
    CAPISCE
    +2
    Very true---he saved jobs by keeping the company from going under. Excellent point
  • Ozzyboy 2012/07/17 01:35:09
    Romney doesn't even hold office yet?
    Ozzyboy
    +5
    It is scandalous to this administration to make honest money and to not gift it back so the wife can go on more vacations.
  • mightymouse49 2012/07/17 01:34:20
    Romney doesn't even hold office yet?
    mightymouse49
    +7
    obama should not be allowed to step down. He should be impeached. He is a traitor.
  • Vis Vires mightym... 2012/07/17 03:04:36
    Vis Vires
    +5
    I agree, but it ain't gonna happen. Their are too many traitors in the Senate and who will have the backing of the media to play the race card.

    Do you remember when he was running in 2008, nobody ever saw a black face behind him on stage. They were told to sit in the back. NOW he's black (because he needs their votes more than ever) so he lets blacks sit in the front. If I were black, I would call him RACIST!
  • Chelsea 2012/07/17 00:52:57
  • marcuss LIBERALS ARE IDIOTS 2012/07/17 00:46:52
    Rave if you agree Obama should step down
    marcuss LIBERALS ARE IDIOTS
    +10
    Well lets take a look at YOUR TAX DOLLARS that GE is given by 0WEbama.

    GE has 380,000 employees and ONLY 122,000 are employed in the Divided States. GE pays ZERO DOLLARS in taxes. GE is building a jet engine plant in CHINA with YOUR TAX DOLLARS!
  • urwutuis marcuss... 2012/07/17 05:34:31
    urwutuis
    +1
    And all because Obama refused to close those tax loopholes that GE has been using for decades.
  • Dion Pr... urwutuis 2012/07/17 13:55:43
    Dion Prince
    +2
    no CONGRESS refused to close those tax loopholes. Obama tried in 2010 and the congress voted it down
  • urwutuis Dion Pr... 2012/07/18 04:00:36
    urwutuis
    I know I was being facetious.
  • Dion Pr... urwutuis 2012/07/18 12:20:33
    Dion Prince
    understood
  • lee 2012/07/17 00:44:14
    Romney doesn't even hold office yet?
    lee
    +3
    either he committed a FELONY by signing those SEC documents, or he's LYING about when he left Bain.

    so you choose... you can vote for Romney the LIAR, or you can vote for Romney the FELON.

    i'll stick with the "other" guy.
  • marcuss... lee 2012/07/17 00:47:48
    marcuss LIBERALS ARE IDIOTS
    +10
    LOL! Your STUPIDITY has been debunked. You clowns need to find another LIE to spread.
  • lee marcuss... 2012/07/17 00:49:34
    lee
    +2
    so he didn't sign those documents?

    what, someone forged his name?

    where is this "debunking" you speak of?

    SEC documents are not something you can just ignore.
  • marcuss... lee 2012/07/17 01:00:20
    marcuss LIBERALS ARE IDIOTS
    +10
    Romney did not leave Bain Capital as part of a long-term, planned succession process. Instead, his departure was fairly sudden — The very first reports of Romney being considered for the Salt Lake City job were on Feb. 2, 1999. Just nine days later, he officially took over the Olympics.

    Bain Capital hadn’t worked out all the details of Romney’s departure. It eventually would discard the CEO position in favor of a horizontal management committee made up of numerous partners, and provide Romney with a golden parachute that included limited partnership interests in all Bain-related funds raised through 2009 (including the option for Romney to invest additional monies). But none of that was in place when Romney took the Salt Lake City job.

    Unwinding a private equity firm’s ownership structure is extremely complicated. The “firm” itself is largely a legal construct of convenience, since it doesn’t pay salaries, make investments or do much of anything else. Instead, what matters are the individual funds.
    it’s reasonable to assume that Romney was considered a “key man,” meaning that each fund’s limited partners could have voted to end the fund’s investment period — or take over fund management themselves — if a super-majority felt it prudent. But that didn’t happen, and Bain saw no reas...



    Romney did not leave Bain Capital as part of a long-term, planned succession process. Instead, his departure was fairly sudden — The very first reports of Romney being considered for the Salt Lake City job were on Feb. 2, 1999. Just nine days later, he officially took over the Olympics.

    Bain Capital hadn’t worked out all the details of Romney’s departure. It eventually would discard the CEO position in favor of a horizontal management committee made up of numerous partners, and provide Romney with a golden parachute that included limited partnership interests in all Bain-related funds raised through 2009 (including the option for Romney to invest additional monies). But none of that was in place when Romney took the Salt Lake City job.

    Unwinding a private equity firm’s ownership structure is extremely complicated. The “firm” itself is largely a legal construct of convenience, since it doesn’t pay salaries, make investments or do much of anything else. Instead, what matters are the individual funds.
    it’s reasonable to assume that Romney was considered a “key man,” meaning that each fund’s limited partners could have voted to end the fund’s investment period — or take over fund management themselves — if a super-majority felt it prudent. But that didn’t happen, and Bain saw no reason to expend massive administrative effort to amend existing funds. Instead, it asked Romney to sign documents when necessary, and made the managerial/ownership changes on new funds going forward.

    The part about lying to the SEC is absurd, since the SEC doesn’t require an owner to be the operational decision-maker (Romney delegated such responsibilities, as is his right).

    Fortune magazine obtained the offering documents for a Bain Capital Fund circulating in June 2000, as well as a fund in 2001. None of the documents show that Romney was listed as being among the “key investment professionals.” As Fortune put it, “the contemporaneous Bain documents show that Romney was indeed telling the truth about no longer having operational input at Bain.
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  • lee marcuss... 2012/07/17 01:04:00
    lee
    +1
    catapult!

    incoming propaganda.

    wow, you are NECK deep... how's it feel?

    is it all warm and squishy?

    ever wonder what woudl happen if someone kicked the plug out of the wall?

    would your heated vat congeal around you? trapping you like a fly in amber?

    just a thought.
  • marcuss... lee 2012/07/17 01:06:24
    marcuss LIBERALS ARE IDIOTS
    +8
    Nothing that can be posted will make you change from your propaganda mode. You have been programmed well.
  • lee marcuss... 2012/07/17 01:13:27
    lee
    +1
    is there an echo in here?
  • marcuss... lee 2012/07/17 01:18:57
    marcuss LIBERALS ARE IDIOTS
    +9
    What do you want me to do? LIE and say everything 0WEbama has done has been great?

    Is the deficit cut in half? Is GITMO closed? Did unemployment remain below 8% 3 years ago because of 0WEbamas stimulus bill?


    I am not a LIAR so i can not agree with you.
  • lee marcuss... 2012/07/17 18:29:17
    lee
    no, i want to you to recognize reality.

    and stop blaming your hangover on the guy making your breakfast.
  • marcuss... lee 2012/07/17 01:00:58
    marcuss LIBERALS ARE IDIOTS
    +9
    You REEK of desperation.
  • lee marcuss... 2012/07/17 01:04:20
    lee
    +1
    you would know.
  • Andrew lee 2012/07/17 07:49:33
    Andrew
    +5
    I'd avoid using "the other guys" name too if I were you!
  • lee Andrew 2012/07/17 18:30:54
    lee
    is that why Romney won't use it?

    doesn't want to be reminded of his inevitable defeat?

    thought so.
  • Lady Wh... lee 2012/07/17 09:35:51
    Lady Whitewolf
    me too
  • jimmy d 2012/07/17 00:28:48
    Rave if you agree Obama should step down
    jimmy d
    +7
    obummer is campaigning (again) in a bus MADE IN CANADA. Scumbag hypocritical little weasel.....
  • keymanjim jimmy d 2012/07/17 03:26:53
    keymanjim
    +3
    Buses made in Canada that are flown to where his campaign stop is where he get on them for the last mile or two just so he can look like the average guy.
  • Sister Wolf 2012/07/17 00:07:47
    Rave if you agree Obama should step down
    Sister Wolf
    +8
    get him out.
  • COCO 2012/07/17 00:01:44
    Rave if you agree Obama should step down
    COCO
    +9
    He should have stepped down a long time ago,but nothing of integrity could come out of a THUG,and he is getting away with a lot,what is more amazing is the blindness and apathy of the American people.
  • sick'n'tired 2012/07/16 23:46:18
    Rave if you agree Obama should step down
    sick'n'tired
    +8
    A scandal ridden presidency and a supreme failure.
  • Chi~Cat 2012/07/16 23:43:47
    Rave if you agree Obama should step down
    Chi~Cat
    +6
    Later, wipe.
  • Carol 2012/07/16 23:34:41 (edited)
    Romney doesn't even hold office yet?
    Carol
    +2
    No this scandal.

    WASHINGTON -- Between 1999 and 2001, Mitt Romney, then the CEO of Bain Capital, signed at least six documents that the private equity firm filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission. The documents run in direct contradiction to a claim that Romney has made repeatedly: that he had nothing to do with Bain, and therefore no responsibility for Bain investments, during that period.



    It's also a claim he made in August 2011 on the federal disclosure form he filed as part of his presidential bid. Romney didn't leave any wiggle room: "Mr. Romney retired from Bain Capital on February 11, 1999 to head the Salt Lake Organizing Committee [for the 2002 Winter Olympics]. Since February 11, 1999, Mr. Romney has not had any active role with any Bain Capital entity and has not been involved in the operations of any Bain Capital entity in any way."



    That is false.



    SEC files include at least six instances of Romney signing documents after February 1999, proving -- unless the signatures were forged -- that his claim to not have "been involved in the operations of any Bain Capital entity in any way" is wrong.



    Most of the documents reference Romney as the "reporting person." Most of the filings were first reported by Glenn Kessler of the Washington Post, although he noted them in a...























































    No this scandal.

    WASHINGTON -- Between 1999 and 2001, Mitt Romney, then the CEO of Bain Capital, signed at least six documents that the private equity firm filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission. The documents run in direct contradiction to a claim that Romney has made repeatedly: that he had nothing to do with Bain, and therefore no responsibility for Bain investments, during that period.



    It's also a claim he made in August 2011 on the federal disclosure form he filed as part of his presidential bid. Romney didn't leave any wiggle room: "Mr. Romney retired from Bain Capital on February 11, 1999 to head the Salt Lake Organizing Committee [for the 2002 Winter Olympics]. Since February 11, 1999, Mr. Romney has not had any active role with any Bain Capital entity and has not been involved in the operations of any Bain Capital entity in any way."



    That is false.



    SEC files include at least six instances of Romney signing documents after February 1999, proving -- unless the signatures were forged -- that his claim to not have "been involved in the operations of any Bain Capital entity in any way" is wrong.



    Most of the documents reference Romney as the "reporting person." Most of the filings were first reported by Glenn Kessler of the Washington Post, although he noted them in an opinion column otherwise dedicated to demonstrating that Kessler was correct weeks ago when he wrote that Romney had parted ways with Bain in 1999.



    For instance, in April 1999, Romney signed documents related to a Bain deal with Pirod Holdings.







    In November of that year, his signature appears on documents connected to a deal with Stericycle.



    In January 2000, he signed paperwork for a deal with VMM Merger Corp.



    His John Hancock appears on ChipPAC Inc. documents in February 2001.



    That same month, Romney's signature can be found on paperwork connected to a Bain deal with Integrated Circuit Systems Inc.



    In February 2000, he signed documents related to a deal with Wesley Jessen Visioncare Inc.



    "There's no contradiction here," a Romney spokesperson told HuffPost in a statement. "He did not participate in the investment or management decisions on any of these or any other investments during this period, as has been said repeatedly by Bain Capital and as was unanimously determined by the bipartisan Massachusetts ballot commission in 2002."



    That's not entirely true, either.



    As HuffPost reported Thursday, Romney sat in on the board meetings of at least one Bain investment. And the SEC filings back up Romney's own earlier statements involving Bain. In February 1999, the Boston Herald reported that "Romney said he will stay on as a part-timer with Bain, providing input on investments and key personnel decisions. But he will leave running day-to-day operations to Bain's executive committee."



    In 2002, the Boston Globe quoted Bain employee Marc Wolpow saying, "I reported directly to Mitt Romney ... You can’t be CEO of Bain Capital and say, 'I really don’t know what my guys were doing.'"



    Romney later said that he became too busy organizing the Winter Olympics and couldn't fulfill even the basic responsibilities he had outlined to the Herald. Yet in a 2002 hearing in a dispute over whether he was a Massachusetts resident eligible to run for governor, he testified that he still attended board meetings for at least one Bain-affiliated company.



    Also in that hearing, he claimed to have taken a temporary leave of absence from Bain to helm the Salt Lake City Olympics.



    As part of running for governor, Romney was required to submit personal financial disclosure statements to Massachusetts' State Ethics Commission under threat of perjury. In his 2001 disclosure statement, he listed himself as "Former Executive" for both Bain Capital Inc. and Bain Capital LLC, with a gross income of more than $100,000. But in his 2002 disclosure statement, he provided a different answer, listing himself as "Executive" of Bain Capital Inc. and Bain Capital LLC, with a gross income of more than $100,000. The latter may be one instance in which Romney and the SEC filings agree on his role.
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  • KCurtis Carol 2012/07/16 23:41:15
    KCurtis
    +9
    It's common and often takes years to move out of a position such as COO, CIO or CFO. So let me ask you a question. While Romney was running corporations, saving the Olympics and going on Religious retreats to help the less fortunate and Obama was smoking Pot and doing Cocaine... who was committing the crimes?
  • Carol KCurtis 2012/07/16 23:46:01
    Carol
    +1
    Your suppositions are meaningless to the discussion.
  • KCurtis Carol 2012/07/17 00:04:30
    KCurtis
    +8
    Facts are not suppositions brainaic.
  • Carol KCurtis 2012/07/17 00:18:42
    Carol
    What facts?
  • KCurtis Carol 2012/07/17 00:25:38
    KCurtis
    +5
    I can tell you've never held a job at that level, do you often ask people, "would you like fries with that?"
  • Carol KCurtis 2012/07/17 01:21:35
    Carol
    +1
    Ahhhhh the usual tactic, throw a ugly remark at someone, when you have nothing.
  • marcuss... Carol 2012/07/17 00:50:21
    marcuss LIBERALS ARE IDIOTS
    +6
    ANOTHER LWNJ clown who has not read Barry's book.

    This might be a shock to you but your savior ate dogs.
  • urwutuis marcuss... 2012/07/17 05:40:22
    urwutuis
    Eating local food
    .Now that's a crime.
  • Gris marcuss... 2012/07/17 21:16:56
    Gris
    Psttttt... and hey, did you have bacan and eggs this morning? Dead hog meat, and little premature chickens, pushed out of a chickens, anal opening..

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