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Is It Time For a NEW Declaration of Independence & Constitution?

snell/GOD & COUNTRY-zero cliques 2012/07/04 17:38:13
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Is It Time to Call for a Second Declaration of Independence & Constitution?


Declaration-of-Independence_full_600Let’s
start with a shocking, but true premise: If you are a patriotic
American, you believe that there are circumstances under which it is
right to take up arms against your own government. That statement feels
wrong to me. It reeks of militia and McVeigh and toothless loons holed
up with guns in cabins in order to avoid paying income taxes.

But the fact remains that the rationale for the existence of the
nation known as the United States of America, which first appeared in
print 236 years ago today, is entirely dependent on the premise that
there are indeed times “…when in the Course of human events, it becomes
necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have
connected them with another…” and that such times may require the first
group of people to “…mutually pledge to each other [their] Lives,
[their] Fortunes and [their] sacred Honor.” And that having dissolved
those political bands with another people, the newly liberated people
(“…and that as Free and Independent States, they have full Power to levy
War…”) may, among other things, protect themselves from a tyrannical
power which engages in “…a long train of abuses and usurpations,
pursuing invariably the same Object [which] evinces a design to reduce
them under absolute Despotism…”


This is the argument presented to the world by Adams, Jefferson, and
Franklin. It was adopted and approved by the Continental Congress. It
has been graphically represented in the Great Seal of the United States
and it is treated as the origin of the American Republic not just in the
Declaration of Independence itself, but also in the Constitution.


In other words the Constitution was signed in the fall of 1787, which
was during the 12th year of the United States, which places the event
which initiated the Republic sometime before September 1776. Is there
any other event, save the Declaration, which would fit the historical
bill? Of course not. And just in case any would argue, as Bork tried to
in our debate, that this is simply a matter of a date to which no
significance can be attributed, I would point out that the Great Seal of
the United States, which was the result of several years of
deliberation, labels the foundation (it is a literal architectural
foundation at the base of a pyramid) with the Roman numerals for the
year 1776. In short, the Declaration and the principles on which it is
based are the foundational ideas of our Republic. One can deny their
truth, but one cannot deny their legal authority.


This implies something very important: No governmental official can
deny the right of the people to dissolve the political bands which tie
them to a tyrannical government without at the same time denying the
Declaration and, by extension, the Constitution on which his own power
is based. If he says, “The Declaration no longer applies; you must obey
my authority no matter what.” We can rightly reply, “If the Declaration
no longer applies, then the government of which you are a part no longer
possesses legitimacy; which means you have no authority in the first
place and therefore have no right to demand that we obey.”








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  • ALPEAUX 2012/07/04 19:30:08
    NO! What's wrong with the Ones Our Forefathers Created?
    ALPEAUX
    +8
    I am 100% behind the Constitution. Alpeaux
  • snell/G... ALPEAUX 2012/07/04 20:13:59
  • Elementer 2012/07/04 19:29:40
    YES! What is taking so long?
    Elementer
    Actually, yeah.
  • Nimitz 2012/07/04 19:22:57
    NO! What's wrong with the Ones Our Forefathers Created?
    Nimitz
    +6
    Use the current one. Just change the intended recipient. :-)
  • snell/G... Nimitz 2012/07/04 19:33:51
  • Mike 2012/07/04 19:21:18
    NO! What's wrong with the Ones Our Forefathers Created?
    Mike
    +10
    Its time for a administration change
  • Biki 2012/07/04 19:15:57
    Undecided
    Biki
    +6
    Good post. Especially the last paragraph. I honestly hadn't thought of that before. Shall share this on my facebook page today, if you don't mind snell??? I couldn't decide between the two other choices. Good arguments for both sides I guess. Keep it, don't keep it because it's been trashed anyway by DC politicians...who knows? It says it best in the final paragraph. I don't think it means anything to most people anymore because they've stopped teaching it in the schools.
  • snell/G... Biki 2012/07/04 19:35:36
    snell/GOD & COUNTRY-zero cliques
    +4
    crying Lady Liberty .....I know.:-{
  • tncdel 2012/07/04 19:13:30 (edited)
    NO! What's wrong with the Ones Our Forefathers Created?
    tncdel
    +8
    But, just like some wedded couples renew their vows, we need a REAFFIRMATION starting this November.

    Although I had hoped that the Tea Party would be the mode to get that done, I have been greatly disappointed by such facts as that the Tea Party is advocating such TRAITORS to America like Marco Rubio, who not only puts the interests of foreign nationals here illegally ahead of America's best interests, but has also even been diabolically blocking attempts by America to defend itself from the illegal alien invasion.

    As you will see here, Benedict Arnold had nothing on Mr. Rubio:
    http://www.sodahead.com/unite...

    Further, Rubio was born in Miami of two foreign nationals who didn't become naturalized U.S. citizens till over 4 years after he was born. So Rubio is constitutionally ineligible to be either VP or president. And those who still insist on him serve to help Obama have another excuse to dodge his own ineligibility.

    We should instead be pushing Romney to pick either Allen West or Rand Paul as VP.

    West would help Romney siphon off a couple million of the 12 million black votes Obama will otherwise get, especially in Bible Belt states. And Paul would help stop Paul-bots from helping Obama to a 2nd term by wasting their votes writing in for his father.
  • Biki tncdel 2012/07/04 19:17:59
    Biki
    +2
    West or Paul sound good to me. I totally agree with you on Rubio. He would pick him to garner the Hispanic vote and continue to shred the eligibility issue even further. Two wrongs don't make this "right"
  • Ken tncdel 2012/07/04 21:10:56
    Ken
    Paul (Ron) might be Romney's best chance to win.
  • heirsoftheking 2012/07/04 19:13:19
    Undecided
    heirsoftheking
    +3
    The Old Declaration is still good - we just need all our leaders to follow it and abide by it.

    Perhaps a Re-Declaration of Independence might work, the same way married couples re-new their wedding vows.
  • Biki heirsof... 2012/07/04 19:19:23
    Biki
    +4
    I kind of thought that was what happened when the new Speaker of the House had everyone read from the Constitution on the first day back in session. I thought piglousys head was going to explode off her body when it was her turn.
  • snell/G... Biki 2012/07/04 19:36:56
    snell/GOD & COUNTRY-zero cliques
    +5
    Pelosi screw America ....Especially coming from her!
  • Ken snell/G... 2012/07/04 21:13:03
    Ken
    +2
    She would make the perfect target for new weapon testing.
  • warkitten snell/G... 2012/07/05 17:24:19
    warkitten
    +1
    She's one scarwwwy biotch
  • wtw 2012/07/04 19:03:05
    NO! What's wrong with the Ones Our Forefathers Created?
    wtw
    +9
    We need to adhere to the basic principles because all of them apply today!
  • Biki wtw 2012/07/04 19:19:46
    Biki
    +3
    Just don't ask the Supreme Court to follow it.
  • wtw Biki 2012/07/05 02:10:49
    wtw
    +2
    Yeah that seems like too much to ask!
  • ReconMa... wtw 2012/07/04 19:23:40
    ReconMarine~AVA/POTL/JLA/PWCM
    +4
    Yes They Do...And Enforce Them, instead trying to go around them as ODUMBO is..
  • Theresa 2012/07/04 19:01:19
    NO! What's wrong with the Ones Our Forefathers Created?
    Theresa
    +8
    all our problems can be resolved if we follow the advice of our own Founding Fathers in the document they created. The last form is the States banding together and removing the Federal Gov't completely. This is called a Constitutional Convention or the Con Con. Once impaneled The function of the federal gov't passes to the representatives of the Con Con. The only other thing is the states are needing shoulder the responsibilities of their people.
  • Biki Theresa 2012/07/04 19:20:25
    Biki
    +3
    Good points Theresa.
  • ReconMa... Theresa 2012/07/04 19:25:37
    ReconMarine~AVA/POTL/JLA/PWCM
    +4
    OUR Problems Can Also be Resolved By Replacing Congress with Members the Work For The People and Defend The Constitution as They Swore to Do...
  • Theresa ReconMa... 2012/07/04 21:12:36
    Theresa
    +2
    Yes we have doing that for the last 100 years how has that worked out?
  • ReconMa... Theresa 2012/07/04 23:56:26
    ReconMarine~AVA/POTL/JLA/PWCM
    Well, it would Work just Fine, if the Country could Come Together and Elect a Congress that worked for US...That is the Key...Not a new Constitution...they would still trash it for their own Power and Corruption, if we do Not Replace Congress...
  • Theresa ReconMa... 2012/07/05 14:43:16
    Theresa
    +1
    I have tried to get rid of the Communist legislator in my district for 10 years he is still there. You are not going to get the brain dead not to vote for the incumbent! The system is not corrupt the people entrenched in it are!
  • ReconMa... Theresa 2012/07/06 03:50:18
    ReconMarine~AVA/POTL/JLA/PWCM
    You Got It....
    Same here in CA and when I lived in NV...Everyone talks about getting rid of the Incumbent, then Election Day comes and they vote the Same Crooks Back in...I always Vote them Out....
    I always Wonder How Corrupt the Voting Machines and Maintainence Companies are..SEIU, and Keep Them Empowered as well....
    Does OUR Vote Really GET Counted...
    Do away with this Elecrorial College Crap and Let The Popular Vote Count...
  • Theresa ReconMa... 2012/07/06 04:01:03
    Theresa
    Actually No the Electorial college is the only thing which prevent the smaller states from being steamrollered by the bigger ones. If you go to popular vote then 10 states with the largest populated cities would dominate the country. No one else would have a say!
  • The Duke 2012/07/04 18:56:19
    NO! What's wrong with the Ones Our Forefathers Created?
    The Duke
    +5
    I don't honestly think we could improve on the original documents and the ideals they still represent. We only need to make full use of them in the ways intended. First and foremost, to vote out of office ANY and ALL of our "public servants" of ANY political persuasion or party who do not represent the best interests of America and the ideals those documents represent.
  • Biki The Duke 2012/07/04 19:20:59
    Biki
    +4
    Then that includes a bunch of people on the Supreme Court that don't know their ass from a hole in the ground!
  • ReconMa... The Duke 2012/07/04 19:26:35
    ReconMarine~AVA/POTL/JLA/PWCM
    +2
    AMEN....BROVO...
  • ReconMarine~AVA/POTL/JLA/PWCM 2012/07/04 18:55:15 (edited)
    NO! What's wrong with the Ones Our Forefathers Created?
    ReconMarine~AVA/POTL/JLA/PWCM
    +9
    The One WE Have Is Just Fine....
    What WE Need...Is A GOV that Honors It and Upholds It as They Swore To Do...

    This Administration...No Honor, No Standing By Their Oath To Defend the Constitution obama no honor obama no honor gov honors upholds swore administration honor standing oath defend constitution obama shreads constitution
  • snell/G... ReconMa... 2012/07/04 19:38:55 (edited)
    snell/GOD & COUNTRY-zero cliques
    +3
    live animated applause....albeit its a european retired vet - [couldn't find an American] ,still you get the meaning!
  • ReconMa... snell/G... 2012/07/04 23:57:13
    ReconMarine~AVA/POTL/JLA/PWCM
    +1
    Absolutely...Still a Vet...
    Thanks My Brother...
  • snell/G... ReconMa... 2012/07/06 03:23:32
    snell/GOD & COUNTRY-zero cliques
    +2
    ...Thank YOU for all your great input! You make it a joy to blog on SH!
  • ReconMa... snell/G... 2012/07/06 03:51:17
    ReconMarine~AVA/POTL/JLA/PWCM
    Thanks, my Friend...I enjoy your Polls...it is fun with Friends and a blast to Piss off the Foes...
  • Pearlie Momi♥Patriot Warrior♥ 2012/07/04 18:53:22
    NO! What's wrong with the Ones Our Forefathers Created?
    Pearlie Momi♥Patriot Warrior♥
    +10
    Obama and his cronies are on track to destroy what we already have.
    Destroy them and vote them out instead of destroying America.
  • ReconMa... Pearlie... 2012/07/04 18:59:13
  • Pearlie... ReconMa... 2012/07/04 19:25:23
    Pearlie Momi♥Patriot Warrior♥
    +2
    Exactly ..Get rid of the destroyer.. Thanks RM
  • ReconMa... Pearlie... 2012/07/04 23:57:58 (edited)
    ReconMarine~AVA/POTL/JLA/PWCM
    +1
    You Betcha...
    Welcome Pearlie...:-)

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