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Is It Right for the Lawless to Request City-Funded Support

Walks_on_Clouds 2011/10/28 19:05:17
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Many of the 'OCCUPY' movements have been protesting by illegally occupying public and private land. In these areas, there have created problems of dealing with human waste, sexual abuse, theft, etc.

Many movement members have complained that city officials have been too slow to respond to their requests for help. This smacks of the guy who called the police because the drug dealer ripped him off and he wanted the rest of his money back.

What do you think, is it right for those breaking the law to expect city official support, such as city-funded port-a-johns with maintenance, extra city-funded law enforcement patrols, etc.?

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  • Jake - 4Q2 2011/10/28 19:25:17
    Undecided
    Jake - 4Q2
    +5
    Sure! And I can ask for my dollar back because I specifically requested a WINNING lottery ticket and didn't win.

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  • princess 2011/11/04 03:02:53
    No
    princess
    +1
    Welcome to the loser Liberal world.
    And thus we have the typical Liberal entitlement mentality...those who believe their lawless ways should be rewarded with handouts. What disgusting pigs!!
  • MichaelDillon 2011/10/30 00:36:10
    Yes
    MichaelDillon
    Do it right or don't do it.
  • JonDeniro 2011/10/29 22:46:25
    Yes
    JonDeniro
    illegally occupying public land? You don't see the absurdity of that premise?

    "is it right for those breaking the law to expect city official support" Breaking what law? Some faux "law" that pretends to have the authority to deny the people their Constitutional rights?
  • Georgia50 2011/10/29 05:59:45
    No
    Georgia50
    It's truly amazing how the filth cling to their self-serving fabricated lies about the Tea Party, but when their own exceed those lies they have nothing to say. (Yes, I know some of you liberals have been critical of the OWSers...this does not apply to all liberals).
  • Georgia50 Georgia50 2011/10/29 06:05:15
    Georgia50
    +1
    While one halfwit liberal goes on a crusade against McDonalds' play areas, another takes her baby to watch men urinate on the ground just a few feet away.

    Where do they come from? Will someone point to the planet?
    milky way galaxy
  • Willl 2011/10/29 03:22:31
    Undecided
    Willl
    Well, you can always request support. That, itself is not against any laws.
    The problem arises when the government ignores laws on the books in order to answer to your calls.
  • Character 2011/10/29 01:47:24
    Yes
    Character
    They should receive the same support the county fair receives. They, of course, should not be allowed on private land, but certainly public land.
  • Torchmanner ~PWCM~JLA 2011/10/29 01:43:48
    No
    Torchmanner ~PWCM~JLA
    +2
    That's something liberals don't understand. It's called personal responsibility. They may as well wear diapers.
    liberals in diapers
  • Georgia50 Torchma... 2011/10/29 06:02:15
    Georgia50
    +2
    Really...

    HOPE they freeze to death and
    CHANGE into Frosty The Snowman!

    Imagine that...death comes early because Al Gore is a LIAR.
  • tomas 2011/10/28 23:25:03
    No
    tomas
    +2
    Why should anyone breaking the law be able to call law "enforcement" to help them out? That is like asking a cop to make your drug deliveries for you.
  • Cal 2011/10/28 22:57:50
    No
    Cal
    +2
    I don't think the city should fund nor support criminals. I say no to this personally.
  • DixieGirl 2011/10/28 22:51:08
    No
    DixieGirl
    +2
    Nope, if they want to assemble then they need to do it just the way everbody else has to. Pay the fees, get the permit, buy the insurance and provide shelter, food, supplies, tc at your own expense. why should they get to do their little pity me party at tax payers expense. As a private land owner, they should have already exercised their rights and had them forceably removed from their property.
  • AL 2011/10/28 22:11:57
    No
    AL
    +2
    Lets put them in jail, since they earned that tax funding already anyway
  • Soundstorm 2011/10/28 21:13:55
    No
    Soundstorm
    +1
    It would be right and probably more financially expedient for the National Guard to remove these moochers who've worn out their welcome and house them in a tent city far outside the city limits. All we need are city leaders with the will and the guts to carry out the law for their constituents. Since only gutless hacks ever manage to get themselves elected you're not going to find that anywhere in the U.S. today.
  • Red Branch Soundstorm 2011/10/28 22:32:39
    Red Branch
    +2
    Sheriff Joe runs a tent city for some of his guests and he is outside the city limits.
  • Cliff 2011/10/28 20:58:27
    Yes
    Cliff
    +4
    Bread and water for 90 days in the city jail.
  • Keen Tojones 2011/10/28 20:36:48
    Undecided
    Keen Tojones
    Depends. I suppose if they are killed then we shouldn't look into that either? You know we're headed that way don't you?
  • Cliff Keen To... 2011/10/28 21:00:31
    Cliff
    +1
    Don't you think you are being just a bit overly optimistic? (sarcasm)
  • Keen To... Cliff 2011/10/28 21:02:33
    Keen Tojones
    Whatevah Cliffy
    Maybe you are next mr. smarty pantsy
    Woman with fangs
  • Cliff Keen To... 2011/10/28 21:05:07
    Cliff
    +2
    Oooooooo....is that a threat?
  • Keen To... Cliff 2011/10/28 21:06:22
    Keen Tojones
    No, this is,

    Roseanne naked
  • Red Branch 2011/10/28 20:28:57
    No
    Red Branch
    +4
    There is no excuse for anyone to trespass on private land. Now for the public land, there is no excuse for anyone to behave in a way that prevents others from using it.

    Anytime else, anyone going to the bathroom in a public park would be arrested and charged with disorderly conduct, public indecency or whatever you get for walking around nude in public, whatever public health laws or sanitation laws apply, and there is even the possiblity that the person may have to register as a sex offender.

    The right to petition the govt is found in the First Amendment to the Constitution. " petition the govt " being the operative words. Wall Street is not the govt. There is the same thing with those Westboro lunatics disrupting military funerals. This is a private time of grief not a govt function or operation. There were protests outside Casey Anthony's home when she was released on bail before being arrested for murder. The way the crowd was acting was one step away from mob or vigilante justice. She is not the govt.

    Like other things in the First Amendment, the left has polluted and contaminated this right as well.

    Sex abuse, its a personal problem; so go home. When you start hanging out with bottom-feeding, scum-sucking, low-lives; what should you expect. Adults are walking around nude and turning the outdoors into a bathroom; why are you hanging around with these people.
  • Soundstorm Red Branch 2011/10/28 21:18:21
    Soundstorm
    +1
    Westlake Park. One of my favorite spots to stop for a break whenever I'm roaming downtown Seattle. No chance of doing that now.

    Westlake Park OWS
  • Red Branch Soundstorm 2011/10/28 22:30:16
    Red Branch
    +3
    That would piss me off.
    A few years ago on a trip to Europe that included Geneva, Switzerland and we ran into some of that crap. The protesters had taken control of Old Town Geneva, so that was off limits to us. Some smaller nearby towns were shut down and were off limits to us.

    These so-called protesters were objecting to the G-8 Summit in Evian France; right across the water from Geneva. Switzerland was not part of the G-8, they were not part of anything and they are the ones with the vandalism and destruction.

    I did collect some of their posters, anarchists, communists, supporters of Islamic terrs, just the dregs of society.
    A Maoist, Trotyskite exiled Greek group of Socialist that had set up in London had put their flag on the statue of Geneva, comparable to our Statue of Liberty. I gave this girl a boost up their to get it. Years ago I would have gotten it myself and I would have had the sign across the street, but some things get left in your youth. If the Swiss had any pride they would have taken it down themselves. I offered it to the girl, but she didn't want it. I am glad her grandmother did not see that. The tour guide was afraid I was going to fly it out the bus window, the thought never crossed my mind.

    I look at it as capturing the enemy battle flag. It i...

    That would piss me off.
    A few years ago on a trip to Europe that included Geneva, Switzerland and we ran into some of that crap. The protesters had taken control of Old Town Geneva, so that was off limits to us. Some smaller nearby towns were shut down and were off limits to us.

    These so-called protesters were objecting to the G-8 Summit in Evian France; right across the water from Geneva. Switzerland was not part of the G-8, they were not part of anything and they are the ones with the vandalism and destruction.

    I did collect some of their posters, anarchists, communists, supporters of Islamic terrs, just the dregs of society.
    A Maoist, Trotyskite exiled Greek group of Socialist that had set up in London had put their flag on the statue of Geneva, comparable to our Statue of Liberty. I gave this girl a boost up their to get it. Years ago I would have gotten it myself and I would have had the sign across the street, but some things get left in your youth. If the Swiss had any pride they would have taken it down themselves. I offered it to the girl, but she didn't want it. I am glad her grandmother did not see that. The tour guide was afraid I was going to fly it out the bus window, the thought never crossed my mind.

    I look at it as capturing the enemy battle flag. It is still in my closet and it still irritates my wife. That girl to another trip with her grandmother after high school graduation and she told me that she used the stuff she saw and gathered in Geneva for many speeches and projects in several high school classes.

    I have yet to figure out how tipping over someone's car and torching it or breaking windows and looting a business owned by several generations of a family is a protest against globalization.
    (more)
  • Pegasis 2011/10/28 19:59:02
    No
    Pegasis
    +2
    Not if they don't want to comply with city and state laws as well.
  • Jake - 4Q2 2011/10/28 19:25:17
    Undecided
    Jake - 4Q2
    +5
    Sure! And I can ask for my dollar back because I specifically requested a WINNING lottery ticket and didn't win.
  • Walks_o... Jake - 4Q2 2011/10/29 00:35:23
    Walks_on_Clouds
    +1
    I'd hold onto it so when a person finally wins, he can redistribute it amongst all the ticket losers.
  • lm1b2 2011/10/28 19:20:40
    Undecided
    lm1b2
    +1
    Where do you suggest these "Lawless"go to protest? If they did not protest on public,and private property do you think they would get the News coverage they desire?The Constitution says we can protest,it even says we can overthrow our Government!
  • MadAsHEck lm1b2 2011/10/28 19:31:43
    MadAsHEck
    +3
    Show me where it says in the constitution that we can overthrow our government.

    The right to "Peceafully assemble" and to "Free Speech" absolutely.

    But the right to destroy property, violate public safety and health ordinances, Camp in unauthorized camping areas, and throw Rocks and bottles at police. Not covered in the constitution.

    As to overthrowing the government, that is done through Voting in Legal elections, not illegally by violence.

    When it is your property, or your family that is harmed by the actions of a mob, you may change your mind. Liberalism always seems right so long as it is applying to someone else.
  • lm1b2 MadAsHEck 2011/10/29 14:52:10
    lm1b2
    The Declaration of Independence gives you the right to overthrow your Government,and the right to bear arms gives you the means, Du! I didn't say they had the right to destroy property or to be rowdy in my comment,Why do you idiots always try to put more into a comment then there is?These people have the right to protest even if you don't agree with them!The way things are going in this Country with the poor getting poorer,and the rich,richer their will be a revolution!
  • MadAsHEck lm1b2 2011/10/30 00:15:52 (edited)
    MadAsHEck
    Please give me the exact wording in the Declaration of independance saying that we can overthrow the government other than by legal Means. Like Voting.

    My question was aimed directly at you . How are you going to feel if these mobs grow to the point where they threaten to destroy your property, or your life in general? Or burn your car like in Vancouver a few months ago. A Mob is a mob is a mob.

    Like most people when that happens you will probably wonder and bitch about the lack of Police protection. Happened here in Seattle a few months ago.

    Essentially most of these protests are Illegal, and being allowed due to Political Correctness. Our wussy of a Mayor won't do squat, while the costs are rising, and businesses in downtown are suffering. Last count the Cost is over $100,000 and rising daily, and at the same time the City Schools are in financial difficulty.
  • swordin... lm1b2 2011/10/28 19:57:08
    swordinhand72
    +6
    The Constitution does say you can protest,however, it does NOT say that the Government is obligated to provide you with property to camp out on while you protest or bathrooms on said property or anything else on the taxpayers dime.And if you urinate/defecate anywhere illegally or commit any other crimes you are subject to tickets,fines,arrest or any other appropriate methods of punishment for doing so.
  • Walks_o... lm1b2 2011/10/29 00:51:22
    Walks_on_Clouds
    +1
    There are rules for HOW to hold a protest. And when people have a problem with fat cats getting favor from our government, they're supposed to protest our government. The protesters are supposed to pay for their own extra costs of public sanitation, etc.
    And it's the Dec of Independence that states we can replace our government if it fails to be one of the people, but I'll be first in line with rifle in hand to defend our government against these lazy, hand out, filthy communists.
  • lm1b2 Walks_o... 2011/10/29 14:57:01
    lm1b2
    I see your quick to label Americans Communists when you disagree with them,what do you call them when you agree with them,"Tea Par tiers" ?
  • MadAsHEck Walks_o... 2011/10/30 00:21:37
    MadAsHEck
    But not with violence, or Illegal means. Thats what the voting booth is for.

    These folks are the "Useful Idiots" as described in the Comminust Manifesto. Pawns is a big pictiure to turn the USA totally Socialist, and under the Control fo the UN. Read Agenda 21, carefully.
  • wolf sloan 2011/10/28 19:17:33
    No
    wolf sloan
    +2
    Unless you mean prison.
  • Soundstorm wolf sloan 2011/10/28 21:19:38
    Soundstorm
    +1
    Hey, that's city funded support.
  • Mr Wayne 2011/10/28 19:07:44
    No
    Mr Wayne
    +4
    You have the right to peaceably assemble; not the right to be comfortable or safe while doing so.
  • Pegasis Mr Wayne 2011/10/28 19:57:13
    Pegasis
    +3
    And I doubt that the right to assemble meant a camping protest with no end in sight!
  • debadow 2011/10/28 19:07:08
    Yes
    debadow
    +5
    pick up your own trash and don't act like a Pig!

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