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Is it Possible to Disagree With Obama's Policies and NOT be 'Racist'?

Nimitz 2012/07/16 04:45:09
Related Topics: Obama, Racist, Policies
No.  Just asking the question makes you a racist.
Yes--but you're still a racist anyway.
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  • elijahin24 2012/07/16 16:12:10
    Other racist answer :-)
    elijahin24
    +6
    The gentleman doth protesteth too much.
    Of course you can disagree with President Obama's policies, without being a racist; and most who disagree with him, are NOT racist. But this is not to say that there are no racists out there. The problem is that the racists out there tend to be the most vocal. It's really very simple: Those who oppose the President on policy, can explain in detail why they don't like the policy, without making it personal, or racial. Those who use insults and personal attacks, tend to be the ones who are racist. This is not always the case. Sometimes they're just Conservative-nationalists; but honestly, that's a form of bigotry too.

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  • KingdomNow 2012/07/16 08:18:02
    No. Just asking the question makes you a racist.
    KingdomNow
    +1
    Is it possible to agree with the Empty Suit's policies and not be a racist?

    No.
  • ehrhornp 2012/07/16 08:12:05
    Other racist answer :-)
    ehrhornp
    +4
    One can disagree with Obama and not be a racist. Such people will generally be from the left. Obama is a moderate conservative and we need a progressive liberal.
  • Nimitz ehrhornp 2012/07/16 19:14:31
    Nimitz
    Well, I do remember from back when I was a liberal that I, too, would have been disappointed with him.
  • Kaleokualoha 2012/07/16 07:48:30 (edited)
    Other racist answer :-)
    Kaleokualoha
    +2
    Of course! In fact AG Holder clearly attributes most criticism to ideological differences, not racism:

    [QUOTE]
    In the interview, Mr. Holder offered a glimpse of how he viewed the criticism. He said he thought some critics — like Senator Lindsey Graham, a South Carolina Republican who favors allowing the military to handle terrorism suspects over the criminal justice system — are expressing “good faith” arguments about their policy disagreements.

    But Mr. Holder contended that many of his other critics — not only elected Republicans but also a broader universe of conservative commentators and bloggers — were instead playing “Washington gotcha” games, portraying them as frequently “conflating things, conveniently leaving some stuff out, construing things to make it seem not quite what it was” to paint him and other department figures in the worst possible light.

    Of that group of critics, Mr. Holder said he believed that a few — the “more extreme segment” — were motivated by animus against Mr. Obama and that he served as a stand-in for him. “This is a way to get at the president because of the way I can be identified with him,” he said, “both due to the nature of our relationship and, you know, the fact that we’re both African-American.”

    Mr. Holder, however, attributed mo...


    Of course! In fact AG Holder clearly attributes most criticism to ideological differences, not racism:

    [QUOTE]
    In the interview, Mr. Holder offered a glimpse of how he viewed the criticism. He said he thought some critics — like Senator Lindsey Graham, a South Carolina Republican who favors allowing the military to handle terrorism suspects over the criminal justice system — are expressing “good faith” arguments about their policy disagreements.

    But Mr. Holder contended that many of his other critics — not only elected Republicans but also a broader universe of conservative commentators and bloggers — were instead playing “Washington gotcha” games, portraying them as frequently “conflating things, conveniently leaving some stuff out, construing things to make it seem not quite what it was” to paint him and other department figures in the worst possible light.

    Of that group of critics, Mr. Holder said he believed that a few — the “more extreme segment” — were motivated by animus against Mr. Obama and that he served as a stand-in for him. “This is a way to get at the president because of the way I can be identified with him,” he said, “both due to the nature of our relationship and, you know, the fact that we’re both African-American.”

    Mr. Holder, however, attributed most of the hostility to underlying ideological differences. “I think that people, despite my law enforcement background, view me as taking these consistently progressive stands, and I think that, philosophically, there is a desire to get at that person,” he said. “But I think the stands I have taken are totally consistent with a person who is looking at things realistically, factually.”
    [END QUOTE http://www.nytimes.com/2011/1... ]

    BTW: Your response choice could use some improvement.
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  • Rusty Shackleford 2012/07/16 07:20:18
    No. Just asking the question makes you a racist.
    Rusty Shackleford
    +1
    Anyone who disagrees with any of The 0bama's policies is a racist.
  • BritPunk Rusty S... 2012/07/16 08:35:11
    BritPunk
    +3
    So why has no-one accused me of it?
  • Rusty S... BritPunk 2012/07/16 12:25:47
    Rusty Shackleford
    +2
    Perhaps you haven't specified your decent in a language simple enough for them to comprehend.
  • Nimitz BritPunk 2012/07/16 19:16:12
    Nimitz
    As I suggested above, I'm guessing your points of disagreement occur in the context of greater agreement. In my experience one only gets the racist label if s/he can't find anything redeeming about the man.
  • BritPunk Nimitz 2012/07/16 19:25:56
    BritPunk
    Which is not the point of the OP as I read it. I hear it so often that ANY disagreement with Obama will be met by calls of racism by the bots, Muslims,Commies etc etc.
    The News and Politics section is full of it.
    In both senses of that term :-)
  • Teri- Oregon 2012/07/16 07:09:27
    Other racist answer :-)
    Teri- Oregon
    +1
    If your an Obama supporter, than yes!
  • AL 2012/07/16 07:03:12
    Yes--but you're still a racist anyway.
    AL
    +2
    Obama is half white! So what race would you be a racist against -if you refused to agree with Obama then?
  • Nimitz AL 2012/07/16 19:16:38
    Nimitz
    +1
    DAMN good point!
  • S* 2012/07/16 06:46:21
    Other racist answer :-)
    S*
    +1
    not a racist, just less intelligent.
  • AL S* 2012/07/16 07:05:18 (edited)
    AL
    +1
    LOL! There is no fool- like a liberal fool-that just can't help making a DAMN fool of himself!
  • S* AL 2012/07/16 07:07:56 (edited)
    S*
    +2
    AL, you have too much time on your hands, and too little intelligence to use it to good effect.
  • AL S* 2012/07/16 08:13:22
    AL
    +1
    Have a nice life FOOL!
  • AL S* 2012/07/16 08:20:00
    AL
    +1
    Use it to good effect? REALLY?LOL! How about -using it for effect-instead? Your english is lacking almost as much as your own common sense 'S"!
  • littlebuffalo55TBA 2012/07/16 06:16:48
    No. Just asking the question makes you a racist.
    littlebuffalo55TBA
    +4
    So why answer this poll? I've gone fishing!

    bass boat gifs
  • Nimitz littleb... 2012/07/16 06:29:30
    Nimitz
    +2
    Because it was either this or pick navel lint. :->
  • littleb... Nimitz 2012/07/16 06:33:27
    littlebuffalo55TBA
    +3
    Lol...well does it look like I have much of a NAVY?
  • Nimitz littleb... 2012/07/16 06:35:01
    Nimitz
    +2
    I think that'd be navAL lint. :-)
  • littleb... Nimitz 2012/07/16 06:41:21
    littlebuffalo55TBA
    +3
    Does it look like lint may be the whole foundation of my flotilla?
  • geneticmistake 2012/07/16 05:43:18
    Other racist answer :-)
    geneticmistake
    +4
    Unracist answer: of course one can disagree with him without being racist. I don't agree with all his policies and I voted for him.
  • Nimitz genetic... 2012/07/16 05:51:10
    Nimitz
    +1
    Anybody can make an honest mistake. . .ONCE. :-D
  • genetic... Nimitz 2012/07/16 06:01:50
    geneticmistake
    +3
    Either main choice in November is a mistake. Just a matter of opinion which one is bigger.
  • Nimitz genetic... 2012/07/16 06:04:16
    Nimitz
    +4
    I'd wager that opinion was pretty much universal. We're screwed either way.
  • Michael=Constitution & Liberty 2012/07/16 05:31:51
    Yes--but you're still a racist anyway.
    Michael=Constitution & Liberty
    +2
    I've considered posting a pic of my mixed race family, but naw, its just nonya biz;)
  • Nimitz Michael... 2012/07/16 05:42:52 (edited)
  • Red Nimitz 2012/07/16 10:48:00
  • David Hussey 2012/07/16 05:19:56
    Other racist answer :-)
    David Hussey
    +4
    Of course it is possible, and those who turn to calls of racism over every criticism are only showing they have nothing to counter the critique with.
  • rich David H... 2012/07/16 11:33:01 (edited)
    rich
    Or . . . it could possibly be that if you are white, you really have no clue as to how other whites who are racist act, because they never turn that toward you? Thus, you are blind. Walk in black shoes for a week, and then let's see what you think. There was a white guy on Oprah in maybe the early 90s, who felt much like you speak, that blacks make too much of all of this, and that racism did not exist on the scale that he was so, so tired of hearing about. But unlike most who just talk, he decided to do an experiment, and had his skin clinically darkened with some dermatological formula, by a doctor, and he had wiry dark curly hair, so he moved around as a black man (I think he was a sociology student in college, but don't hold me to that). Memory is shaky, but I think it was for 6 months. When he came on the show at the end of the experiment, he said, "I was wrong. There is a big difference. I was amazed at how white people generally acted toward me, more often than not. It is very different, and it was depressing to live under constant scrutiny and hostility." A lot of the experiment he would not even discuss because he said he simply wanted to put the experience behind him. He had expected to do it longer, but found it too stressful. Yes Virginia, racism is ali...
    Or . . . it could possibly be that if you are white, you really have no clue as to how other whites who are racist act, because they never turn that toward you? Thus, you are blind. Walk in black shoes for a week, and then let's see what you think. There was a white guy on Oprah in maybe the early 90s, who felt much like you speak, that blacks make too much of all of this, and that racism did not exist on the scale that he was so, so tired of hearing about. But unlike most who just talk, he decided to do an experiment, and had his skin clinically darkened with some dermatological formula, by a doctor, and he had wiry dark curly hair, so he moved around as a black man (I think he was a sociology student in college, but don't hold me to that). Memory is shaky, but I think it was for 6 months. When he came on the show at the end of the experiment, he said, "I was wrong. There is a big difference. I was amazed at how white people generally acted toward me, more often than not. It is very different, and it was depressing to live under constant scrutiny and hostility." A lot of the experiment he would not even discuss because he said he simply wanted to put the experience behind him. He had expected to do it longer, but found it too stressful. Yes Virginia, racism is alive, and is more often than not, at the route of most negative behavior toward people of color in this country. So it is up to those of us who see it, to shout it out, like any other danger to society, like a fire!
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  • David H... rich 2012/07/17 00:23:00 (edited)
    David Hussey
    +1
    I don't need to be a black man to have a clue. Living in Georgia offered me plenty of opportunity to observe how the racist behaves towards blacks, which coincidentally was pretty much how I as a (in their words) "long haired, hippy, punko drug freak" was treated by them. In fact I even had a couple of them tell me that I was worse than a N_____, a veritable traitor to my race.

    I don't think blacks make too much of this, please do not put words in my mouth. Those most likely to ascribe racism to someone criticizing Obama are whites.

    Don't know about any guy on Oprah, but this book written in 1961 is a compelling read. Perhaps the author was the one on her show.

    obama whites guy oprah book written 1961 compelling read author
  • rich David H... 2012/07/17 02:54:36
    rich
    +1
    Didn't mean to put words in your mouth. It is clearer now. Thanks.
    Black Like Me is quite wonderful, but no, this was a young student in the 80's who did the same kind of thing, but didn't write a book. Just talked about the experience. She had a woman on there too a couple of years later who did the same thing with testosterone in order to see why men act like they do, that was a fascinating interview.
  • David H... rich 2012/07/17 14:51:46
    David Hussey
    No problem. Have a good day Rich.
  • Dagon 2012/07/16 05:19:40
  • angelbaby 2012/07/16 05:11:04
    Other racist answer :-)
    angelbaby
    +6
    It's just a silencing tactic .. It doesn't work on me!
  • Nimitz angelbaby 2012/07/16 05:13:15
    Nimitz
    +2
    B.I.N.G.O!
  • angelbaby Nimitz 2012/07/16 05:17:35
    angelbaby
    +4
    Yup, that race card thingy expired ~
  • Chokmah Nimitz 2012/07/16 05:20:12
    Chokmah
    +4
    It's a tactic of the bene gesserit
  • Nimitz Chokmah 2012/07/16 05:21:42

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