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Is It OK for Iran to Ban Women From 'Manly' College Courses?

AdriHead 2012/08/29 00:07:30
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File this under "extremely sexist and regressive." 36 universities in Iran announced that 77 college courses will be "single gender" only and available exclusively to men. The move, which has prompted a demand for a U.N. investigation, may be due to the fact that female Iranian students have outperformed men within the last few years in the academic arena. Do you think the news is just plain ridiculous?

THEDAILYBEAST.COM reports:
Female students in Iran have been barred from more than 70 university degree courses in an officially-approved act of sex-discrimination, which critics say is aimed at defeating the fight for equal women's rights.
officially-approved act sex-discrimination critics aimed defeating fight equal womens rights

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  • Thecharliejay 2012/08/29 01:12:54
    No
    Thecharliejay
    +10
    It is discrimination and sexism, there are hardly any rights for women over in the middle east. It is appalling.

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  • Grammar... Yo'Adri... 2012/09/03 11:02:53
    Grammar Freak
    Interesting. I would argue that women have had loads more power & freedom in Iran until very recently. Those things are only now starting to change. Persia has always been quite ahead of the other nations in their region with women being quite highly educated & many women involved in government. Any reduction of women's rights is a recent occurrence.
  • sgp81 Yo'Adri... 2012/09/04 14:25:41
    sgp81
    you are correct, it is there country and only they can change it. but islam must change, but that will take tousands of years. my point is this, invading or attacking this country will
    not acheive anything good.
  • addie sgp81 2012/09/03 23:08:36
    addie
    Don't worry we wont go in to help women.
  • sgp81 addie 2012/09/04 14:26:31
    sgp81
    it has oil and that means that all bets are off.
  • Gia 2012/09/02 16:36:30
    No
    Gia
    +1
    Women have the right to learn anything they want. To stop a person from learning is like crushing a bug! Crushing bug
  • STEVE 2012/09/02 16:34:55
    Yes
    STEVE
    +2
    AFTER ALL SOME GAL IN A BERKA MIGHT MAKE THE GUYS DISTRACTED BERKA
  • Grammar... STEVE 2012/09/03 11:05:14
    Grammar Freak
    +1
    Persia does not require the bur'qa. Women go out with a scarf loosely over their hair.
    Iran has always been quite progressive regarding women's rights.
    It would be wise to learn something about the nation before making such silly comments. Not every Middle Eastern nation is the same. Iran is quite modern in many ways & traditional in many other ways. It is far more of complex situation than most Americans can fathom... mostly due to our lack of education about other nations/societies & our general fear of the same.
  • STEVE Grammar... 2012/09/03 16:40:16
  • george.... Grammar... 2012/09/09 12:18:54
    george.carty.142
    +1
    The more devout Iranian women wear chadors, but even they don't cover the face.

    I wonder if a misogynistic proposal like this because Iranian conservatives are worried about the birth rate? (Iran's TFR is now only 1.8, comparable to many Western countries.) Lack of family-wage jobs is also making it very difficult for many Iranian men to get married.
  • Grammar... george.... 2012/09/09 12:25:02
    Grammar Freak
    Possibly.
    ...& embargoes aren't helping matters over there either.
    The People are always the ones to suffer embargoes, not the leaders.
    I strongly disagree with our actions regarding Iran. The majority of the American public doesn't have clue one about Persia, its culture or history & they just toe "party" lines, regurgitating the nonsense propaganda they've been force fed.

    Really, the ignorance in our nation puts us somewhere behind those that we taunt,
  • Syl 2012/09/02 12:45:05
    No
    Syl
    Negative discrimination of gender. I strongly disapprove.
  • Kat 2012/09/02 12:41:59
    Yes
    Kat
    +2
    In Iran it is, the females could be in danger there if they took manly courses. The religion there would not allow it. They are sexist to extremes.
  • george.... Kat 2012/09/29 16:26:11
    george.carty.142
    +1
    Actually Islam doesn't have a problem with women working. It does however make it a man's duty to provide for his family, so that any money a woman earns is hers and hers alone.

    This can have nasty consequences for women in times of high unemployment though -- some working women in Basra (Iraq) were murdered by desperate unemployed men who wanted their jobs, and a similar logic also explains why the Taliban banned women from working (in a country devastated by the Soviet invasion and following civil war, the Taliban wanted to save what few jobs there were for the men).
  • Deactivated...? 2012/09/02 12:39:48
    No
    Deactivated...?
    +1
    That's totally effed up -.-
  • urwutuis 2012/09/02 07:05:48 (edited)
    Yes
    urwutuis
    +3
    Iran can do what Iran wants. If you don't like it, don't go there. If you want to go there and fight for women's rights, I'm all for it.
    You and/or the UN can't brand everyone with your idea of right and wrong.
    You don't have to like it but it's not your decision to make. Nor should it be the UN's.
  • bill 2012/09/02 00:34:31
    Yes
    bill
    Obamo is evil Solist loser
  • roadrat bill 2012/09/03 01:46:54
    roadrat
    +3
    And that statement has something to do with this question how?
  • us 2012/09/02 00:08:30
    No
    us
    If women want to learn let them, why not.
  • blackrings70 2012/09/01 23:53:37
  • Okie Lady 2012/09/01 22:41:47
    Yes
    Okie Lady
    +1
    It's not okay, but Iran is not our business, so let's keep our noses out of their business if it doesn't impact us. The only things that are our business are their uranium enrichment and their treatment of Israel. And we should NEVER let another Iranian student come here to study! Or anyone else from an Arab country.
  • us Okie Lady 2012/09/02 00:10:50
    us
    +2
    I agree, we should not tell other country what to do, yes we should protect isreal.
  • Grammar... us 2012/09/03 11:07:24
    Grammar Freak
    Why should we protect Israel?
  • us Grammar... 2012/09/03 15:48:34
    us
    we stand with isreal, and protect her, God will protect us.
  • Grammar... us 2012/09/03 17:47:56
    Grammar Freak
    Why?
    Can't Israel stand on its own? It's all grown up now... & wealthy as hell.
  • us Grammar... 2012/09/04 03:17:29
    us
    Yes, Isreal can defend itself, they have in the past, but if they needed us we would support them.
  • Grammar... us 2012/09/04 09:32:29
    Grammar Freak
    If their actions are counter to our foundations & fundamentals, why would we support them? I personally disagree with most of their actions & rhetoric.
    It is foolish to follow anyone/thing blindly. One must pay attention to what the leaders say/do & not simply think, "We support Israel" because of some fear of being anti-Semitic. It is more detrimental to their nation as well as ours to allow their leaders to act without being checked. The idea that the US agrees with everything they say/do is ridiculous. It is not anti-Semitic to disagree with the government. It is anti-Semitic to bash Jews in general in a racist way.
    People get it wrong when they think that disagreeing with a government must equal antisemitism.
  • us Grammar... 2012/09/04 19:09:25
    us
    I was taught we should always stand with isreal, I agree with government thinks there doing something good but in the end it hurts us. One thing i do believe in all countries Everyone should be treaten with respect, and if they want to take a class that is manly so what,
    she may be great at it. What is considered a manly college course?
  • Grammar... us 2012/09/04 20:21:38
    Grammar Freak
    +1
    Well, I have found in my life that not everything I was taught as a child was correct or right or good. Sometimes things are well-intentioned but are actually very detrimental. I would caution buying into anything ANY government does or says... because governments are all known to be dishonest. They are, after all, full of politicians.

    I do not disagree that such practices should not take place in the US. However, if, in Iran, The People decide that certain classes should not be taken by women, that's their business. Iranian women have always been very strong & have always fought very hard for their rights... particularly when it comes to education. So, I would suggest that we sit back & allow them to take care of this themselves.
    Women are pretty tough cookies... all over the world. It might take a while, but eventually, especially with the Internet & the young generations communicating with each other everywhere, women in Middle Eastern & other Islamic nations will organize themselves & change their own societies.

    I know enough Muslims from all over to know that most do not want strict Shariah, most do not want to be overly controlled... but most firmly believe in the Qu'ran & also do not want their societies to be like ours... where unmarried women with children are commo...&&&&
    Well, I have found in my life that not everything I was taught as a child was correct or right or good. Sometimes things are well-intentioned but are actually very detrimental. I would caution buying into anything ANY government does or says... because governments are all known to be dishonest. They are, after all, full of politicians.

    I do not disagree that such practices should not take place in the US. However, if, in Iran, The People decide that certain classes should not be taken by women, that's their business. Iranian women have always been very strong & have always fought very hard for their rights... particularly when it comes to education. So, I would suggest that we sit back & allow them to take care of this themselves.
    Women are pretty tough cookies... all over the world. It might take a while, but eventually, especially with the Internet & the young generations communicating with each other everywhere, women in Middle Eastern & other Islamic nations will organize themselves & change their own societies.

    I know enough Muslims from all over to know that most do not want strict Shariah, most do not want to be overly controlled... but most firmly believe in the Qu'ran & also do not want their societies to be like ours... where unmarried women with children are commonplace, drugs & alcohol are abused by large numbers of the populace & where there are large numbers of children who are not well fed or educated. There are things about our societies that they like & things they don't. They will change their societies to suite them & we have to allow them to do it. If they want our help, we can then consider giving it to them after they ask. However, I would suggest that other Muslim societies or women from other Muslim societies step up first. It will happen. I have no doubt. Women are tough.
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  • us Grammar... 2012/09/04 23:09:38
    us
    that for writing back, I agree women will decide, but I remember
    in junior high i had to wood shop, metal shop, I wish i would have took a better interest, also we had sewing class. I also remember in high school we had to have half semester of driving ed learning about the car. I could not tell much about a car now.
  • GoatHorns Okie Lady 2012/09/02 00:32:58
    GoatHorns
    +3
    i agree we shouldn't be worried about what they do, but why should we not let anyone come here to study? and if north korea, pakistan, india, russia, china, and israel have nukes, why can't iran? we're the only country to actually ever use them, and they haven't attacked anyone in centuries.
  • george.... Okie Lady 2012/09/02 08:39:12
    george.carty.142
    +2
    If you called an Iranian an "Arab" he'd biff you in the face! It's worse than calling a Canadian "American".
  • Keith george.... 2012/09/02 17:44:30
    Keith
    Lol it is true though
  • Grammar... Keith 2012/09/03 11:08:14
    Grammar Freak
    What's true?
    Iranians are Persians.
  • Keith Grammar... 2012/09/03 15:09:38
    Keith
    Okay, I guess you did don't understand I said it is true Iranians dont like to be called Arab lol
  • Grammar... Keith 2012/09/03 17:49:25
    Grammar Freak
    I see. I thought you were agreeing with something else.
  • george.... Keith 2012/09/29 16:28:53
    george.carty.142
    Indeed, before Muhammad the Arabs were little more than barbarians, while the Iranians had an empire over 1000 years before Muhammad was even born.
  • roadrat george.... 2012/09/03 01:50:34
    roadrat
    On the other hand: if you call someone from Montreal a Canuck, he'll be insulted; yet Vancouver has a Hockey team called Canucks. Go figure.
  • roadrat Okie Lady 2012/09/03 01:48:46
    roadrat
    Jeez, you had me right up until your last sentence.
  • Grammar... Okie Lady 2012/09/03 11:07:08
    Grammar Freak
    Why shouldn't we allow Iranians & other Arabs into the US to study? I don't understand that statement at all. What is your reasoning for it?
  • Michael Hertel 2012/09/01 22:07:02
    Yes
    Michael Hertel
    It is wrong, but if these women wish to live in Iran and are free to leave then their country can do what ever it has decided is right.

    Islam is not going to last long because the people who believe in that religion are devided and very violent , to the point of being irrational, even against each other.

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