Is It OK for a Child to Have More Than Two Parents?
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2012/07/03 21:00:00
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California Democrats want to increase the number of parents a child can have. SB 1476 would allow a child to have more than two parents at the same time in order to accommodate same-sex parents, surrogates, assisted reproduction, and other non-traditional parental relationships.
SacBee.com reports:
"The bill brings California into the 21st century, recognizing that there are more than Ozzie and Harriet families today," Leno said. But some disagree. "It comes as no surprise that he would try to say that a child has more than two parents – that's absurd," said Benjamin Lopez, a legislative analyst for Traditional Values Coalition, a Bible-based civil rights group.
SacBee points out potential problems and complexities caused by SB 1476:
Examples of three-parent relationships that could be affected by SB 1476 include: 1) A family in which a man began dating a woman while she was pregnant, then raised that child with her for seven years. The youth also had a parental relationship with the biological father. 2) A same-sex couple who asked a close male friend to help them conceive, then decided that all three would raise the child. 3) A divorce in which a woman and her second husband were the legal parents of a child, but the biological father maintained close ties as well. How do you feel about the proposed bill?
SacBee.com reports:
Mom and Dad, same-sex couples or blended families, California law is clear: No more than two legal parents per child. State Sen. Mark Leno is pushing legislation to allow a child to have multiple parents.
"The bill brings California into the 21st century, recognizing that there are more than Ozzie and Harriet families today," Leno said. But some disagree. "It comes as no surprise that he would try to say that a child has more than two parents – that's absurd," said Benjamin Lopez, a legislative analyst for Traditional Values Coalition, a Bible-based civil rights group.
SacBee points out potential problems and complexities caused by SB 1476:
Tax deductions, citizenship, probate, public assistance, school notifications and Social Security rights all can be affected by determinations of parenthood, notes the Association of Certified Family Law Specialists.
Examples of three-parent relationships that could be affected by SB 1476 include: 1) A family in which a man began dating a woman while she was pregnant, then raised that child with her for seven years. The youth also had a parental relationship with the biological father. 2) A same-sex couple who asked a close male friend to help them conceive, then decided that all three would raise the child. 3) A divorce in which a woman and her second husband were the legal parents of a child, but the biological father maintained close ties as well. How do you feel about the proposed bill?
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Top Opinion
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Stryder 2012/07/03 15:41:45
And I'm quite sorry for your former friend. It's a shame such terrible things happened to her. May she find the right way once again.
Dad, I went to him about everything, from bullies to what I wanted for my birthday/christmas, when I wanted to learn how to do something, or even the changes during puberty. Dad taught me all of it, and he did the best thing I think any father can do, he didn't lie about his personal history and was honest about how a lot of teenage boys think when it comes to girls and their own physical changes. So I was prepared for being called a lesbian because I chose not to put out, but Dad was proud that I didn't do that sort of thing.
I go to dad with problems, because I can't count on mum. When I ask her about changes within me or what happens around me, she just laughes and says it's natural. My dad on the other hand tells me each detail, so I rely on him more to explain stuff to me. It's actually thanks to him and not my mum that I've finally started to open up on people.
Biologically nothing can ever be altered, there's one egg and one sperm, and one person providing each necessary component. Biology will always be the same, laws are supposed to reflect the public. If California law does not recognize step-parents as legal guardians or having the same legal rights as the biological parents, this needs to change.
those three sets of examples are prime examples of why this sort of thing needs to happen. Not just for female same-sex couples either, but male same-sex couples who ask a friend to carry their child for them as some do. Why should a woman carry a child for 9 months, and then lose all legal bonds to that child because some law says 'Two parents'? That would put an immense amount of strain on the friendship as well, and yes some will say, "then hire a surrogate" surrogates do not come cheap and not everyone can afford them.
i actually was introduced to this subject in my English class recently, and all of the people in class agreed that it's insanely stupid. It's bad enough for kids to have 2 parents who tell them what to do, but 3..4? Hang yourself. The kids will go insane. I know i would. Come on, leave the poor kids alone. Let them have as decent a life as possible. You aren't fixing anything, you are breaking everything! Maybe it takes "a village" to raise someone, but that's the old way, when people used to think alike(besides.even that happened rarely in those times). But now, you'll be asking a kid to take on ten times more stress, and if you don't know anything, the kids are already stressing with just 2 parents. Screw off!
I also know a few adults in my community who were raised by same-sex parents and honestly it had zero impact on the quality of their character and if anything they had an easier time talking to their parents about sexuality and sexual activity. You want to know the 'shocking' bit? The ones raised by same-sex parents are 90% of the time straight. The same percentage as children raised by straight parents.
My best friend is a lesbian, she's married to her wife. My friend has 4 children from previous relationships or encounters (I won't say what actually happened, just that homophobia is still a horrible issue and you can fill in the rest with your imagination) with men. I'm the god mother of the three youngest ones.
The eldest girl (13) is into boys, the little boy (about 5) is already picking dandilions and giving them to girls, because they're 'cute'. His twin sister tends to chase boys around. The youngest girl is just potty training, but equally interacts with boys and girls her age. They're completely fine. Yes the eldest does get picked on, but surprisingly the bullying comes from her mom's family, nobody else. Far as the school board's concerned, she doesn't show signs of abuse or negl...
I also know a few adults in my community who were raised by same-sex parents and honestly it had zero impact on the quality of their character and if anything they had an easier time talking to their parents about sexuality and sexual activity. You want to know the 'shocking' bit? The ones raised by same-sex parents are 90% of the time straight. The same percentage as children raised by straight parents.
My best friend is a lesbian, she's married to her wife. My friend has 4 children from previous relationships or encounters (I won't say what actually happened, just that homophobia is still a horrible issue and you can fill in the rest with your imagination) with men. I'm the god mother of the three youngest ones.
The eldest girl (13) is into boys, the little boy (about 5) is already picking dandilions and giving them to girls, because they're 'cute'. His twin sister tends to chase boys around. The youngest girl is just potty training, but equally interacts with boys and girls her age. They're completely fine. Yes the eldest does get picked on, but surprisingly the bullying comes from her mom's family, nobody else. Far as the school board's concerned, she doesn't show signs of abuse or neglect, not their issue.
"Your mother is corrupting you with her life style!" being the most common taunt from her maternal grandfather.
The kids and teachers in her school couldn't give less of a rat's backside what her mom's orientation is. All the teachers care about: she makes good grades, does her homework, and dresses appropriately for school. She doesn't have unexplained bruises, doesn't miss a lot of school, and she has never shown any signs of sexual abuse.
She has a bit of a smart-mouth at times, but so do most her age.
though they were ( are ) both great people,
the family dynamic has become way too intense...
Two sets of parents, four sets of Grandparents, and each
with thier set of ideals, opinions, and rules, which created MAJOR
power struggles, amongst themselves, and caused HUGE grief for us kids ~
Not to mention the challenges of an additional six brothers and sisters from it all...
Raising children is a job, for one man, and one woman, to do, together, in wedlock, period !
cheating is emotionally abusive.
Degrading and humiliating someone because they aren't just like your mom/dad is abusive.
And let's not forget some women actually experience domestic violence for the very first time while pregnant.
So, maybe their intent was one man, one woman in wedlock but they began to fear for their safety and the baby's safety and if they could carry to term, so they divorce. She has the baby, remarries, mean time first husband goes into couseling and anger management. Gets a therapist to vouch for him, boom instant paternal rights and the man the child's known to be 'dad' since birth suddenly has no rights.
Now tell me that's fair to the child and the man who raised the child.
Sorry, can't reply ~
My head has just spun out
from your myriad of scenarios, and,
no dis' intended, but, to be quite honest...
I really don't need to defend, or expound, further ~
Sounds like YOU have some issues to address, though,
as, that which you mentioned above doesn't come from thin aire...
I'll pray for you, that everything turns out well, and that you find peace :0 )
There are professionals to help with setting up compromise methods so each parenting party is pacified and work collectively to meet the best interests of the child, the unfortunate part being that therapy is still a taboo topic to some people. Yet child protectors in my area recommend that when going through a divorce, divorcing parents as well as the children attend regular therapy sessions to set a stable foundation in their new life and that when introducing a new guardian or parent into a child's life, a professional is there to help guide the process and attempt to make the transition easier on all involved. That any power struggles be limited to discussions between parents, ect.
Yes, nothing is ever ideal. it's true, and those scenarios regretably I have witnessed either as a by stander or a distant relative. Those scenarios I feel strongly could be less dire with more than two legal parents having rights to the child as then if something happens to one parent, either through legal issues or illness, there's still two people to raise the child and less chance of the child becoming a ward of the state.
Thanks for sharing your opinion ~
But you won't change mine, so please stop trying to do so...
I should have said:
Don't want a PC reply like liberals alway pull out of their asses on a regular basis.
“Be yourself”, is all I say, it's OK to have a few prejudges as long as there the kind that are mostly preferences.