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Is It OK for a Child to Have More Than Two Parents?

Fef 2012/07/03 21:00:00
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California Democrats want to increase the number of parents a child can have. SB 1476 would allow a child to have more than two parents at the same time in order to accommodate same-sex parents, surrogates, assisted reproduction, and other non-traditional parental relationships.

SacBee.com reports: Mom and Dad, same-sex couples or blended families, California law is clear: No more than two legal parents per child. State Sen. Mark Leno is pushing legislation to allow a child to have multiple parents.

"The bill brings California into the 21st century, recognizing that there are more than Ozzie and Harriet families today," Leno said. But some disagree. "It comes as no surprise that he would try to say that a child has more than two parents – that's absurd," said Benjamin Lopez, a legislative analyst for Traditional Values Coalition, a Bible-based civil rights group.

SacBee points out potential problems and complexities caused by SB 1476:
Tax deductions, citizenship, probate, public assistance, school notifications and Social Security rights all can be affected by determinations of parenthood, notes the Association of Certified Family Law Specialists.

Examples of three-parent relationships that could be affected by SB 1476 include: 1) A family in which a man began dating a woman while she was pregnant, then raised that child with her for seven years. The youth also had a parental relationship with the biological father. 2) A same-sex couple who asked a close male friend to help them conceive, then decided that all three would raise the child. 3) A divorce in which a woman and her second husband were the legal parents of a child, but the biological father maintained close ties as well. How do you feel about the proposed bill?

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  • sweetserinity13 2012/07/03 23:00:10
    Yes
    sweetserinity13
    +3
    A parent is not limited to names on a piece of paper. A parent is someone who guides and loves you. My husband has 3 mothers and 3 fathers by this definition. A bio mom who didn't raise him but loved him from afar, and a bio dad who did the same. He was raised by his grandparents who took great care of him but did not raise him as a son more of as a grandson so he is a little spoiled. And his step father and step mother both of whom treat him as their own child as it should be.

    My point is that blood doesn't make you a parent. If someone asks my husband today who is parents are he would say his grandparents. Children need more than two people in their lives, the old tale of it taking a village to raise a child is true. Children need all the love and support they can get and it does take more than biological parents, so if California wants to recognize more than two parents legally its a great thing. because the others need to be recognized as well as the biological parents.
  • shaboogie 2012/07/03 22:52:17
    No
    shaboogie
    +2
    Actually, if you stop and think about it they already have more than one set of parents. If you count grandparents and some people have friends or other family members as God parents. I'm sure they all have a role in raising the children.
  • ☆ Queen... shaboogie 2012/07/04 02:35:57
    ☆ QueenAline
    true, but here comes the freekin government, wanting to pass a bill to make this statement? Ahh...I'm so sick of all this bullsh*t...Government needs to get the hell out of our lives. This is just totally absurd
  • dustin.oubre 2012/07/03 22:45:43
    Yes
    dustin.oubre
    +5
    There's really nothing wrong with it. I don't understand why so many people are angered by this.
  • Scatter... dustin.... 2012/07/03 23:51:13
    ScatterJoy!
    +2
    People get the most uppity about the things they can't control - don't try to make sense of the senseless, just be thankful you're not narrow-minded!
  • ☆ Queen... dustin.... 2012/07/04 02:37:05
    ☆ QueenAline
    because to pass a bill, use our tax dollars on such bull makes me mad...I don't know about you, but I think with the debt this country has, we don't need legislature in our private lives dammit.
  • zeldamaster17 2012/07/03 22:38:47
  • Simmering Frog 2012/07/03 22:37:27
    No
    Simmering Frog
    +2
    California was once cutting edge. Now it's just a place where the freaks on the left can play Fantasy land.
  • ☆ Queen... Simmeri... 2012/07/04 02:38:30
    ☆ QueenAline
    +1
    oh God....are you spot on with that answer....California is the pits...this is par for the course coming out of there...along with an insane democrat...it has no place in legislature.
  • Simmeri... ☆ Queen... 2012/07/04 04:58:34 (edited)
    Simmering Frog
    It's too bad too because California is one of the most beautiful states. It once set the trends for the rest of the country. Now the rest of the country sees California as the land of freaks and nuts. And what they see in Governor Moonbeam is beyond me.
  • TheCouchF*cker 2012/07/03 22:30:07
    Yes
    TheCouchF*cker
    +3
    Government should have no place in the family dynamic, no matter what kind of family it is. None. It's not their place.
  • gregaj7 2012/07/03 22:17:30
    No
    gregaj7
    +2
    No effort of "Man" can change what Yahweh has set-up. One man and one woman, only, to create another living vessel with a soul and spirit.
  • ☆ Queen... gregaj7 2012/07/04 02:38:46
  • retrograve 2012/07/03 22:13:12
    Yes
    retrograve
    +1
    Eh, if they want him/her too.
  • k fleming 2012/07/03 22:07:42
    No
    k fleming
    +2
    Here we go! This is exactly what the conservatives were talking about with gay marriage.
    Group marriages and sexdoll marriages are next.
  • dobby123 k fleming 2012/07/04 00:53:02
    dobby123
    +1
    Please, tell me how gay marriages, and group marriages effect YOUR life in any way.
  • k fleming dobby123 2012/07/04 00:56:10
    k fleming
    +2
    Well no, it doesn't affect my life, but it does affect another party. The child will have nonexistent understanding of the nuclear family. Did anyone ask him?
  • dobby123 k fleming 2012/07/04 01:05:35
    dobby123
    +1
    Hah. Wow, you actually think that a child wouldn't get the basic idea that a marriage can have any way into it m/f m/m f/f fm/fm when so many kids at their school have a mother and a father instead of a father and a "papa" and a mom and a "mama". It will eventually be obvious to kids that they can have a family of any type. In fact, when I have kids, I'll tell them straight out, that they cannot birth a child without a male involved.
  • k fleming dobby123 2012/07/04 01:17:43
    k fleming
    +1
    We are obviously working at entirely different levels here, and the reasoning you give is exactly why I believe there is a breakdown of the family unit in this country.
    Homosexual parents are notorious for instilling their learned behavior into their adopted children at young ages.
  • dobby123 k fleming 2012/07/04 01:40:56
  • k fleming dobby123 2012/07/04 02:39:13 (edited)
    k fleming
    It's a psychological disorder to want to have sex with the same sex, and should be treated as such.
    Children raised by homosexual couples are 7 times more likely to be homosexual, tell me it's not learned behavior.
    http://www.wnd.com/2009/06/10...
  • dobby123 k fleming 2012/07/04 02:59:33
    dobby123
    +1
    A DISORDER. Hahaha! A disorder? A disorder is LOVING SOMEONE? Seriously?
    A lot of children raised by a homosexual are homosexual. But you know what? This is nothing for YOU to worry about. If your kid turns out homosexual what would you do?
  • k fleming dobby123 2012/07/04 03:16:05 (edited)
    k fleming
    Children are taken away from psych patients every day of the week.

    I would teach mine it is an abomination against God and a psycological disorder.
    It's not going to happen in my household.
    There is nothing wrong with loving someone of the same sex, I love my father for example, but some how I don't think you are talking about endearing love. You are just talking about sex.
  • dobby123 k fleming 2012/07/04 03:42:28
    dobby123
    No. I am not talking about sex. I am talking about actually loving someone of the same sex. Loving them as if they were my husband.
    "Children are taken away from psych patients every day of the week."
    And...? Your point is? It does not matter who the parents are, or what their parent's genders are. It depends on who the child is, and what the parents do towards the child.
    NOW, did you know, that God, will let you love whoever you will love?
  • k fleming dobby123 2012/07/04 03:51:06
    k fleming
    "NOW, did you know, that God, will let you love whoever you will love?"
    hmmm no.
    Romans 1:26
    1 Corinthians 6:9-11
    1 Timothy 1:8–10
    What you are talking about is straight up sex.
    This is what the bible has to say about love.
    http://www.godandscience.org/...
  • dobby123 k fleming 2012/07/04 04:00:00
    dobby123
    WOW I'm so sorry I'm not some religious person who knows everything about God and has read his little "blog" known as the Bible. I'm not going to let someone I can't see tell me who I should love.

    And I'm not reading ANYTHING from the Bible. It's a waste of pages.
    No. I know what I am talking about. I am talking about LOVING someone for who they are, not for how well they give a nice fingering (in fact I've not really done that stuff). I am talking about loving someone for how they treat YOU. And that connection where we just.... "click" (sounds cheesy, I know).
  • k fleming dobby123 2012/07/04 04:09:05
    k fleming
    I posted the blog because I didn't feel like typing out a whole presentation for someone I knew would not listen.
    Do not presume to tell me what I know is wrong to be ok with God and then turn around and say you don't care about him.
    Your God is a figment of your imagination, and you change him to suit your needs.
    And you can't have it both ways, either someone is "stuck" being gay, or a straight person just "clicks" with someone of the same sex.
    Which is it?
  • dobby123 k fleming 2012/07/04 04:21:57
    dobby123
    My god is a figment of my imagination. Yes he is. I will not change my god to suit my needs. My needs are filled. My wants are not, but my wants are selfish.
    You cannot tell me what gender I need to "click" with. You may, but I will not listen. I would stick with being "stuck" with my girlfriend any day. You don't know what it is like loving someone of the same sex. What it is like? It is the same as loving someone the opposite gender of you. Except loving someone the same sex has given me pain. Has given bullies to me. Has put me through hell and back. But did you know something? It's actually worth it. If I loved a man as much as I loved my girlfriend, I would go through hell and back for them too.
  • k fleming dobby123 2012/07/04 04:38:09 (edited)
    k fleming
    Well at least you showed some creativity by not using the "born that way" argument.
    I've done all I can.
  • dobby123 k fleming 2012/07/04 04:50:40
    dobby123
    At least you tried, I mean, there are tons of other people you can convince out there, I mean I am only sixteen, I'm a stubborn little teenager, see if I'm active on Sodahead when I get my head out of the clouds. I must give you credit for trying though.
  • ☆ Queen... k fleming 2012/07/04 02:39:29
    ☆ QueenAline
    +1
    exactly
  • JackSchitt 2012/07/03 21:58:48
    No
    JackSchitt
    Hey Fef! Can I claim YOUR kid(s) as dependents on MY taxes?
  • Wortmore 2012/07/03 21:52:22
    Yes
    Wortmore
    +2
    Sometimes, the other parent can't be there all the time and it can be good for some children
  • ☆ Queen... Wortmore 2012/07/04 02:40:24
    ☆ QueenAline
    so why then, does this have to be LAW????????????
  • Herb 2012/07/03 21:49:08 (edited)
    No
    Herb
    +6
    thats why they are called parents, mom and dad they procreate look at all definitions from many diffrent dictionaries.

    par·ent/ˈpe(ə)rənt/

    Noun
    A father or mother.

    Verb
    Be or act as a mother or father to (someone).
    Father - origin - mother

    Wikipedia- Dictionary.com- Answers.com- Merriam-Webster
    One who begets, gives birth to, or nurtures and raises a child; a father or mother. 2. An ancestor; a progenitor. 3. An organism that produces or generates ...


    par·ent
       [pair-uhnt, par-] Show IPA

    noun
    1.
    a father or a mother.

    2.
    an ancestor, precursor, or progenitor.

    3.
    a source, origin, or cause.

    4.
    a protector or guardian.

    5.
    Biology . any organism that produces or generates another

    Random House Webster's College Dictionary
    1.
    parent(n.)ˈpɛər ənt, ˈpær-

    a father or a mother.

    2.
    parentˈpɛər ənt, ˈpær-

    a source, origin, or cause.

    3.
    parentˈpɛər ənt, ˈpær-

    any organism that produces another.

    4.
    parentˈpɛər ənt, ˈpær-

    a precursor; progenitor.

    5.
    parent(adj.)ˈpɛər ənt, ˈpær-

    being the original source.

    6.
    parentˈpɛər ənt, ˈpær-

    pertaining to an organism, cell, or structure that produces another.

    7.
    parentˈpɛər ənt, ˈpær-

    of or designating a corporation or other enterprise that owns controlling interests in one or more subsidiaries.

    8.
    parent(v.t.)ˈpɛər ənt, ˈpær-

    to be or act as parent of.

    Etymology: (1375–1425; late ME (< MF) <...
    thats why they are called parents, mom and dad they procreate look at all definitions from many diffrent dictionaries.

    par·ent/ˈpe(ə)rənt/

    Noun
    A father or mother.

    Verb
    Be or act as a mother or father to (someone).
    Father - origin - mother

    Wikipedia- Dictionary.com- Answers.com- Merriam-Webster
    One who begets, gives birth to, or nurtures and raises a child; a father or mother. 2. An ancestor; a progenitor. 3. An organism that produces or generates ...


    par·ent
       [pair-uhnt, par-] Show IPA

    noun
    1.
    a father or a mother.

    2.
    an ancestor, precursor, or progenitor.

    3.
    a source, origin, or cause.

    4.
    a protector or guardian.

    5.
    Biology . any organism that produces or generates another

    Random House Webster's College Dictionary
    1.
    parent(n.)ˈpɛər ənt, ˈpær-

    a father or a mother.

    2.
    parentˈpɛər ənt, ˈpær-

    a source, origin, or cause.

    3.
    parentˈpɛər ənt, ˈpær-

    any organism that produces another.

    4.
    parentˈpɛər ənt, ˈpær-

    a precursor; progenitor.

    5.
    parent(adj.)ˈpɛər ənt, ˈpær-

    being the original source.

    6.
    parentˈpɛər ənt, ˈpær-

    pertaining to an organism, cell, or structure that produces another.

    7.
    parentˈpɛər ənt, ˈpær-

    of or designating a corporation or other enterprise that owns controlling interests in one or more subsidiaries.

    8.
    parent(v.t.)ˈpɛər ənt, ˈpær-

    to be or act as parent of.

    Etymology: (1375–1425; late ME (< MF) < L parent-, s. of parēns, n. use of prp. of parere to bring
    (more)
  • Cyan9 Herb 2012/07/04 01:00:37
    Cyan9
    +1
    legally being a parent is not the same as biologically. If you disagree, you may want to start advocating to make adoption illegal.
  • Herb Cyan9 2012/07/04 03:06:24
    Herb
    were are talking the word. adoption is not biological, thats more family they techically not parents, a family yes mom and dad yes but the word extends ro biological.
  • Cyan9 Herb 2012/07/04 10:38:13
    Cyan9
    No it doesn't. If you're adopted then whoever adopted you are legally considered your parents. You even get a new birth certificate. I had lived with my Aunt for most of my childhood and she was going to adopt me but didn't because it would have had weird legal implications. Mainly, I would no longer be legally related to anyone on my mother's side of the family.
  • 4gotten Israelite 2012/07/03 21:38:53 (edited)
    No
    4gotten Israelite
    +3
    But only in America aka Sodom and Gamora

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