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Is It OK for a Child to Have More Than Two Parents?

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California Democrats want to increase the number of parents a child can have. SB 1476 would allow a child to have more than two parents at the same time in order to accommodate same-sex parents, surrogates, assisted reproduction, and other non-traditional parental relationships.

SacBee.com reports: Mom and Dad, same-sex couples or blended families, California law is clear: No more than two legal parents per child. State Sen. Mark Leno is pushing legislation to allow a child to have multiple parents.

"The bill brings California into the 21st century, recognizing that there are more than Ozzie and Harriet families today," Leno said. But some disagree. "It comes as no surprise that he would try to say that a child has more than two parents – that's absurd," said Benjamin Lopez, a legislative analyst for Traditional Values Coalition, a Bible-based civil rights group.

SacBee points out potential problems and complexities caused by SB 1476:
Tax deductions, citizenship, probate, public assistance, school notifications and Social Security rights all can be affected by determinations of parenthood, notes the Association of Certified Family Law Specialists.

Examples of three-parent relationships that could be affected by SB 1476 include: 1) A family in which a man began dating a woman while she was pregnant, then raised that child with her for seven years. The youth also had a parental relationship with the biological father. 2) A same-sex couple who asked a close male friend to help them conceive, then decided that all three would raise the child. 3) A divorce in which a woman and her second husband were the legal parents of a child, but the biological father maintained close ties as well. How do you feel about the proposed bill?

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  • Idiot r... sbtbill 2012/07/05 02:36:40
    Idiot repubs
    Thanks for the info.
  • woodstock 2012/07/04 14:14:16
    No
    woodstock
    +6
    What happened to family values? Where is the commitment when it is so eazy to dump kids when ever you see fit with who ever you see fit and damn what the child thinks or feels. It just gives the parent more leverage not to be a parent, so why would you want children in the first place to experience playing house like you did when you were 8 years old.
  • Idiot r... woodstock 2012/07/04 17:10:47
    Idiot repubs
    More parents more family values.
  • tobe 2012/07/04 14:07:48
    Yes
    tobe
    +4
    bigger support system. i think it accommodates more than that though. I've seen step fathers and step mothers in heterosexual marriages take complete mothering or father responsibility for dead beat moms and dads. its always made me sick they couldn't claim the child they've raised all that time as their own.
  • Wahvlvke 2012/07/04 13:47:45
    No
    Wahvlvke
    +6
    Only a looney left wing california crat could come up with this.
  • Idiot r... Wahvlvke 2012/07/04 14:28:23
    Idiot repubs
    Mormons do it all the time.
  • Wahvlvke Idiot r... 2012/07/04 19:36:16
    Wahvlvke
    But they don't try to put it into law.
  • Idiot r... Wahvlvke 2012/07/05 02:37:17
    Idiot repubs
    Wait till Romney gets in, it'll be his second act.
  • Wahvlvke Idiot r... 2012/07/05 12:36:07
    Wahvlvke
    As long as the first is dumping pissheadcare I'm OK with it.
  • Idiot r... Wahvlvke 2012/07/05 21:18:42
    Idiot repubs
    And replace it with what?
  • Wahvlvke Idiot r... 2012/07/06 13:14:21
    Wahvlvke
    NOTHING ... health care is not a valid function of government.
  • Kim(: 2012/07/04 13:37:09
    No
    Kim(:
    +6
    I really wouldnt put a child through that. I can see it now. Teacher of child with 3 parents: So whats your parents names? Child: Dan, bob and mary. (teacher confused) I really dont care but i wouldnt do that to my kid
  • tobe Kim(: 2012/07/04 14:13:59
    tobe
    +1
    44 % of women remarry. if they have children when they do that they will.
  • glen tobe 2012/07/04 14:28:40
    glen
    +4
    And 100 % of those men that marry those women are not the father of that child . No matter how loving or caring that man is . I'm in that situation and her daughters make sure I know I'm not their father.
  • glen glen 2012/07/04 14:29:14
    glen
    +2
    Especially when their in trouble !
  • tobe glen 2012/07/04 14:49:17
    tobe
    sucks for the daughters that don't have an active father.
  • Charmaine tobe 2012/07/04 15:07:22
    Charmaine
    +3
    They can always have a father figure, but remember not all men who father children are good fathers/dads. It takes a real man to do that, and if a man is willing to step in and help to raise that child that is fine, but having three active parents is WACK!!!
  • tobe Charmaine 2012/07/04 15:24:57
    tobe
    the article didn't say active
  • Charmaine Charmaine 2012/07/04 15:53:20
  • glen tobe 2012/07/04 15:27:03
    glen
    +2
    I'm active when they want me to be their friend . I have to stay the hell out of the way when they don't ! They are 15 and 17 respectively ! They see their father once every two weeks for 2 days and at that he is an ass ! I'm their friend not their parent big difference ! Don't judge what you don't know !
  • tobe glen 2012/07/04 18:47:23
    tobe
    same to you
  • Kim(: tobe 2012/07/04 14:58:15
    Kim(:
    +1
    Still i wouldnt do that to my kid and if i divorce i will get married to the same guy or just stay unmarried.
  • tobe Kim(: 2012/07/04 14:59:22
    tobe
    +2
    if i had a dollar for everything i said i would never do when i was 14 i would have a nice little nest egg built up.
  • Kim(: tobe 2012/07/04 23:30:49
    Kim(:
    Im not you and ik it sounds weird but im already engaged to be married to William J. Fish II on June 15th, 2017
  • tobe Kim(: 2012/07/05 12:08:12
    tobe
    well. my hats off to you if you can pull it off, especially if you plan on going to college cause alot changes there and if you can stick it out in college your doing better than most people. i never knew anyone who is still with the person they were with at 14, except my grandmother and she's dead. she was also married at 14 and world war 2 was going on...
  • Kim(: tobe 2012/07/05 12:49:04
    Kim(:
    wow and yeah im going to college for 4 or 6 years when i can and im gonna be a full time vet and a part time firefighter
  • tobe Kim(: 2012/07/05 12:51:08
    tobe
    you two going to the same school?
  • Kim(: tobe 2012/07/05 12:57:07 (edited)
    Kim(:
    Oh no right now he goes to public school and im home schooled. We are gonna try to get into the same school when we go to college
  • tobe Kim(: 2012/07/05 13:04:42
    tobe
    hope it works out
  • Kim(: tobe 2012/07/05 13:06:57
    Kim(:
    thank you
  • tobe Kim(: 2012/07/05 13:10:24
    tobe
    i would really suggest the same school route though.
  • tobe Kim(: 2012/07/05 13:10:33
    tobe
    your welcome
  • tobe Kim(: 2012/07/04 15:00:39
    tobe
    +1
    its really hard to make it as a single parent and in this economy even more so and sometimes your not the one that wants the divorce.
  • glen Kim(: 2012/07/04 15:30:38
    glen
    You really can't say that .When that someone comes along it just doesn't matter because everything just falls perfectly into place like it did for me ( When I was 35 by the way )
  • Charmaine tobe 2012/07/04 15:05:58
    Charmaine
    +3
    You can only have one mother and one father!!! No one can replace them, it has been designed that way.
  • tobe Charmaine 2012/07/04 15:26:51
    tobe
    even when the parent is about as involved in the childs life as santa clause or the easter bunny.
  • God bless American freedom 2012/07/04 13:11:17
    No
    God bless American freedom
    +4
    I think, that with the advent of vast amounts of social information concerning the development of child behaviour over the aeons, this sort of deviancy from one mother, one father, together raising the progeny from infancy to adulthood, this would be an obvious "no". Quite obvious.

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  • Yuki ~ ... God ble... 2012/07/04 16:13:52
    Yuki ~ ♦Lion King of PHÆT♦
    +1
    Most of the information suggests that having multiple parental or support figures is healthier for a child and their biological parents, because it lifts a good deal of the burden and spreads it around. E.g: Having aunts, uncles, grandparents (or similar figures) to help raise child makes childrearing easier for parents.

    There are some cultures where children have multiple fathers-- the father who sired them, the fathers who provided for them, the fathers that taught them. And the father that sired them is often glad, grateful, thankful to those other fathers for helping provide and raise his son into the man he is. This isn't deviancy, it's human nature taking on nurturing roles without interference by social restrictions you see in western civilizations.
  • God ble... Yuki ~ ... 2012/07/04 20:16:43 (edited)
    God bless American freedom
    ah the hillary ideal.. it takes a village to raise a child theory.

    You misunderstand , perhaps defensively,( difficult to tell without personal knowledge ) perhaps not, ... and still , any child is better having his or her own two parents stand together bravely facing life together loyally, honourably, , back to back, side to side, front to front within the hearts of each other... if that becomes impossible through death of one spouse or both , then of course other relatives shall enter and shall hopefuly be welcome. ( please, note I used the word "honourably" )

    However.. the core values of children are shaped by the mother and the father and their relationship to one another. The stronger the healthy attachment of the parents to one another .. the better for the child. The lesser strength, the more detachment by the child affected ( Source: Freud etc ) .. and so on... A child whose own father impregnated his mother ( sperm donor ) and then abandons the mother and the child to other males to dominate their lives and "help" them .. has taught his own flesh and blood not only is he or she not worthy , but also the mother is not worthy, thus perpetuating and supporting a male idea of "change your partner as often as you want no matter who you hurt ".... The same for a mothe...













    ah the hillary ideal.. it takes a village to raise a child theory.

    You misunderstand , perhaps defensively,( difficult to tell without personal knowledge ) perhaps not, ... and still , any child is better having his or her own two parents stand together bravely facing life together loyally, honourably, , back to back, side to side, front to front within the hearts of each other... if that becomes impossible through death of one spouse or both , then of course other relatives shall enter and shall hopefuly be welcome. ( please, note I used the word "honourably" )

    However.. the core values of children are shaped by the mother and the father and their relationship to one another. The stronger the healthy attachment of the parents to one another .. the better for the child. The lesser strength, the more detachment by the child affected ( Source: Freud etc ) .. and so on... A child whose own father impregnated his mother ( sperm donor ) and then abandons the mother and the child to other males to dominate their lives and "help" them .. has taught his own flesh and blood not only is he or she not worthy , but also the mother is not worthy, thus perpetuating and supporting a male idea of "change your partner as often as you want no matter who you hurt ".... The same for a mother who becomes impregnated and then disposes of her own flesh and blood by abortion.

    What is so wrong with self control and either not having sex or using birth control methods other than murder?

    There is zero strength in have sex whenever with whomever and then thro away children and be hopeful or grateful if someone might come along to feed them... . Zero. That lowers such men and women to the level of hyenas on the wild veldt .. not a man or woman at all, but just animasl with a penis and a vagina.,.. grateful or not to other males being responsible for the child or not... There is nothing good in that. Humans are supposed to be beyond the stupidity of animals ,.. and yet?

    I think situational ethics are from the weak minded... the ones with loose core values shaped by too much input from outsiders. And it is proven ( history of mankind ) that children who are taught situational ethics.. have serious problems keeping a healthy relationship, as well as self governance .. and as well national core values/governance ... for a lifetime.

    Yuki , I am not saying everyone is perfect by any means. I am saying ( paraphrasing ) historical facts in evidence OVER AEONS as well as studies made by actual current history showing the abdication of parents is ruinous for entire nations .... Not current situational ethics being taught worldwide by various cultures/religious which are providing the downfall of America specifically ... . There will always be extremes .. but mankind is no longer supposed to be animals in the field hoping for a chance to mate and run away to let children fend for themselves or hope the mother murders the baby or hope others do the hunting gathering. That is despicable and sly and cheapens life.

    Situational ethics are weaknesses, not strengths... and just create more and more children who are incapable/unable to cope with honour, truth, and justice that does not involve revenge but every day life.


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  • Yuki ~ ... God ble... 2012/07/05 20:36:45
    Yuki ~ ♦Lion King of PHÆT♦
    I think you're misunderstanding me. The father doesn't just make the kid and then walk off to leave the mother and his friends to raise the kid-- he does what all of his friends do, which is basically be a father to other children in the community as well as their own (and plenty of other women in the community do the same). The core values of children are shaped by those who raise them, and biological connection has nothing to do with social bonding. There is a LOT of good in this. You should read up on it sometime-- perhaps start with "Sex At Dawn."

    So what are humans, then? Gods? Demi-gods? We're not divine or above other animals-- we're as driven by our biology as any other animal. We're animals that reproduce, live in groups, are highly social, and with young that are dependent for years and years. It makes sense that with such resource/time/energy-expensive young, that it would be most profitable by both child and community to divide the burden among them (albeit in unequal portions) because children are the future of the community.

    History and observation of modern parenting has shown us that the two-parenting system is failing. It is extremely difficult for two people to raise one child, let alone more (where it has become a norm to have more than one child.) Children ge...



    I think you're misunderstanding me. The father doesn't just make the kid and then walk off to leave the mother and his friends to raise the kid-- he does what all of his friends do, which is basically be a father to other children in the community as well as their own (and plenty of other women in the community do the same). The core values of children are shaped by those who raise them, and biological connection has nothing to do with social bonding. There is a LOT of good in this. You should read up on it sometime-- perhaps start with "Sex At Dawn."

    So what are humans, then? Gods? Demi-gods? We're not divine or above other animals-- we're as driven by our biology as any other animal. We're animals that reproduce, live in groups, are highly social, and with young that are dependent for years and years. It makes sense that with such resource/time/energy-expensive young, that it would be most profitable by both child and community to divide the burden among them (albeit in unequal portions) because children are the future of the community.

    History and observation of modern parenting has shown us that the two-parenting system is failing. It is extremely difficult for two people to raise one child, let alone more (where it has become a norm to have more than one child.) Children get shuffled aside, favorites are played, not enough attention is given, resources dwindle. We see a lot of success where families have a grandparent or an aunt or uncle to fall back on, or godparents/close family friends.

    Coco, we as homo sapiens or even earlier hominids never mated and ran away, nor did we leave our young to fend for themselves. A woman was still likely to get resources provided to her by the man she had sex with, and since there's no possible way for her young to survive without her, the only ones who survived were the ones who were looked after and thus looked after their young in turn. We never did this "in the field". We lived in small groups where running away from responsibility was an impossibility because of how close-knit it was, and how necessary it was that everyone pull their weight.

    What I'm saying is that multiple-parenting situations are superior to two-person parenting. I'm not saying to throw one or both of the original parents out of the equation, I'm saying that it is healthier for both parents and child when others contribute to the child's upbringing.
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