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All-American Bitch 2011/01/13 23:09:49
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She is sickening, but the nut jobs rant; read this:

(1) She used the word "bloodlible" to fight back. Bloodlible is a old term used in the 1800s about to make a FALSE accusation on the Jews of using Christian children's blood for rituals. disgusting.

(2) In time of great sorrow she decides to leave these victims (including an innocent 9 year old girl) to die in vain and argues instead of mustering the courage to apologize for any influence she may had on the shooting. I figure it would hurt her ego too much.

(3) She blames the media for misinterpreting her actions and rallies. The media is the one who was trying to help you look better, Palin!

(4) The word "bloodlible" is an uncommon, negative word. It's is like the owrd "Wiccan" you do not know the word unless you heard it from someone else, is a part of the subject, and.or looked it up. A school friend told me the word "wIccan" and Palin told me the word "bloodlible."

(5) Even commentators and Republicans do not wish to equate themselves with her. She misrepresents Republicans has a whole. Anyone who follows her now is a racist, extremist.

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Obama's speech was touching, heartfelt and made sense. Palin, take the advice and listen to it.

TRANSCRIPT:

On Saturday morning, Gabby, her staff, and many of her constituents gathered outside a supermarket to exercise their right to peaceful assembly and free speech. They were fulfilling a central tenet of the democracy envisioned by our founders - representatives of the people answering to their constituents, so as to carry their concerns to our nation's capital. Gabby called it "Congress on Your Corner" - just an updated version of government of and by and for the people.



That is the quintessentially American scene that was shattered by a gunman's bullets. And the six people who lost their lives on Saturday - they too represented what is best in America.



Judge John Roll served our legal system for nearly 40 years. A graduate of this university and its law school, Judge Roll was recommended for the federal bench by John McCain twenty years ago, appointed by President George H.W. Bush, and rose to become Arizona's chief federal judge. His colleagues described him as the hardest-working judge within the Ninth Circuit. He was on his way back from attending Mass, as he did every day, when he decided to stop by and say hi to his Representative. John is survived by his loving wife, Maureen, his three sons, and his five grandchildren.



George and Dorothy Morris - "Dot" to her friends - were high school sweethearts who got married and had two daughters. They did everything together, traveling the open road in their RV, enjoying what their friends called a 50-year honeymoon. Saturday morning, they went by the Safeway to hear what their Congresswoman had to say. When gunfire rang out, George, a former Marine, instinctively tried to shield his wife. Both were shot. Dot passed away.



A New Jersey native, Phyllis Schneck retired to Tucson to beat the snow. But in the summer, she would return East, where her world revolved around her 3 children, 7 grandchildren, and 2 year-old great-granddaughter. A gifted quilter, she'd often work under her favorite tree, or sometimes sew aprons with the logos of the Jets and the Giants to give out at the church where she volunteered. A Republican, she took a liking to Gabby, and wanted to get to know her better.



Dorwan and Mavy Stoddard grew up in Tucson together - about seventy years ago. They moved apart and started their own respective families, but after both were widowed they found their way back here, to, as one of Mavy's daughters put it, "be boyfriend and girlfriend again." When they weren't out on the road in their motor home, you could find them just up the road, helping folks in need at the Mountain Avenue Church of Christ. A retired construction worker, Dorwan spent his spare time fixing up the church along with their dog, Tux. His final act of selflessness was to dive on top of his wife, sacrificing his life for hers.



Everything Gabe Zimmerman did, he did with passion - but his true passion was people. As Gabby's outreach director, he made the cares of thousands of her constituents his own, seeing to it that seniors got the Medicare benefits they had earned, that veterans got the medals and care they deserved, that government was working for ordinary folks. He died doing what he loved - talking with people and seeing how he could help. Gabe is survived by his parents, Ross and Emily, his brother, Ben, and his fiancee, Kelly, who he planned to marry next year.



And then there is nine year-old Christina Taylor Green. Christina was an A student, a dancer, a gymnast, and a swimmer. She often proclaimed that she wanted to be the first woman to play in the major leagues, and as the only girl on her Little League team, no one put it past her. She showed an appreciation for life uncommon for a girl her age, and would remind her mother, "We are so blessed. We have the best life." And she'd pay those blessings back by participating in a charity that helped children who were less fortunate.



Our hearts are broken by their sudden passing. Our hearts are broken - and yet, our hearts also have reason for fullness.



Our hearts are full of hope and thanks for the 13 Americans who survived the shooting, including the congresswoman many of them went to see on Saturday. I have just come from the University Medical Center, just a mile from here, where our friend Gabby courageously fights to recover even as we speak. And I can tell you this - she knows we're here and she knows we love her and she knows that we will be rooting for her throughout what will be a difficult journey.





And our hearts are full of gratitude for those who saved others. We are grateful for Daniel Hernandez, a volunteer in Gabby's office who ran through the chaos to minister to his boss, tending to her wounds to keep her alive. We are grateful for the men who tackled the gunman as he stopped to reload. We are grateful for a petite 61 year-old, Patricia Maisch, who wrestled away the killer's ammunition, undoubtedly saving some lives. And we are grateful for the doctors and nurses and emergency medics who worked wonders to heal those who'd been hurt.



These men and women remind us that heroism is found not only on the fields of battle. They remind us that heroism does not require special training or physical strength. Heroism is here, all around us, in the hearts of so many of our fellow citizens, just waiting to be summoned - as it was on Saturday morning.



Their actions, their selflessness, also pose a challenge to each of us. It raises the question of what, beyond the prayers and expressions of concern, is required of us going forward. How can we honor the fallen? How can we be true to their memory?



You see, when a tragedy like this strikes, it is part of our nature to demand explanations - to try to impose some order on the chaos, and make sense out of that which seems senseless. Already we've seen a national conversation commence, not only about the motivations behind these killings, but about everything from the merits of gun safety laws to the adequacy of our mental health systems. Much of this process, of debating what might be done to prevent such tragedies in the future, is an essential ingredient in our exercise of self-government.



But at a time when our discourse has become so sharply polarized - at a time when we are far too eager to lay the blame for all that ails the world at the feet of those who think differently than we do - it's important for us to pause for a moment and make sure that we are talking with each other in a way that heals, not a way that wounds.



Scripture tells us that there is evil in the world, and that terrible things happen for reasons that defy human understanding. In the words of Job, "when I looked for light, then came darkness." Bad things happen, and we must guard against simple explanations in the aftermath.



For the truth is that none of us can know exactly what triggered this vicious attack. None of us can know with any certainty what might have stopped those shots from being fired, or what thoughts lurked in the inner recesses of a violent man's mind.



So yes, we must examine all the facts behind this tragedy. We cannot and will not be passive in the face of such violence. We should be willing to challenge old assumptions in order to lessen the prospects of violence in the future.



But what we can't do is use this tragedy as one more occasion to turn on one another. As we discuss these issues, let each of us do so with a good dose of humility. Rather than pointing fingers or assigning blame, let us use this occasion to expand our moral imaginations, to listen to each other more carefully, to sharpen our instincts for empathy, and remind ourselves of all the ways our hopes and dreams are bound together.



After all, that's what most of us do when we lose someone in our family - especially if the loss is unexpected. We're shaken from our routines, and forced to look inward. We reflect on the past. Did we spend enough time with an aging parent, we wonder. Did we express our gratitude for all the sacrifices they made for us? Did we tell a spouse just how desperately we loved them, not just once in awhile but every single day?



So sudden loss causes us to look backward - but it also forces us to look forward, to reflect on the present and the future, on the manner in which we live our lives and nurture our relationships with those who are still with us. We may ask ourselves if we've shown enough kindness and generosity and compassion to the people in our lives. Perhaps we question whether we are doing right by our children, or our community, and whether our priorities are in order. We recognize our own mortality, and are reminded that in the fleeting time we have on this earth, what matters is not wealth, or status, or power, or fame - but rather, how well we have loved, and what small part we have played in bettering the lives of others.



That process of reflection, of making sure we align our values with our actions - that, I believe, is what a tragedy like this requires. For those who were harmed, those who were killed - they are part of our family, an American family 300 million strong. We may not have known them personally, but we surely see ourselves in them. In George and Dot, in Dorwan and Mavy, we sense the abiding love we have for our own husbands, our own wives, our own life partners. Phyllis - she's our mom or grandma; Gabe our brother or son. In Judge Roll, we recognize not only a man who prized his family and doing his job well, but also a man who embodied America's fidelity to the law. In Gabby, we see a reflection of our public spiritedness, that desire to participate in that sometimes frustrating, sometimes contentious, but always necessary and never-ending process to form a more perfect union.



And in Christina...in Christina we see all of our children. So curious, so trusting, so energetic and full of magic.



So deserving of our love.



And so deserving of our good example. If this tragedy prompts reflection and debate, as it should,let's make sure it's worthy of those we have lost. Let's make sure it's not on the usual plane of politics and point scoring and pettiness that drifts away with the next news cycle.



The loss of these wonderful people should make every one of us strive to be better in our private lives - to be better friends and neighbors, co-workers and parents. And if, as has been discussed in recent days, their deaths help usher in more civility in our public discourse, let's remember that it is not because a simple lack of civility caused this tragedy, but rather because only a more civil and honest public discourse can help us face up to our challenges as a nation, in a way that would make them proud. It should be because we want to live up to the example of public servants like John Roll and Gabby Giffords, who knew first and foremost that we are all Americans, and that we can question each other's ideas without questioning each other's love of country, and that our task, working together, is to constantly widen the circle of our concern so that we bequeath the American dream to future generations.



I believe we can be better. Those who died here, those who saved lives here - they help me believe. We may not be able to stop all evil in the world, but I know that how we treat one another is entirely up to us. I believe that for all our imperfections, we are full of decency and goodness, and that the forces that divide us are not as strong as those that unite us.



That's what I believe, in part because that's what a child like Christina Taylor Green believed. Imagine: here was a young girl who was just becoming aware of our democracy; just beginning to understand the obligations of citizenship; just starting to glimpse the fact that someday she too might play a part in shaping her nation's future. She had been elected to her student council; she saw public service as something exciting, something hopeful. She was off to meet her congresswoman, someone she was sure was good and important and might be a role model. She saw all this through the eyes of a child, undimmed by the cynicism or vitriol that we adults all too often just take for granted.



I want us to live up to her expectations. I want our democracy to be as good as she imagined it. All of us - we should do everything we can to make sure this country lives up to our children's expectations.



Christina was given to us on September 11th, 2001, one of 50 babies born that day to be pictured in a book called "Faces of Hope." On either side of her photo in that book were simple wishes for a child's life. "I hope you help those in need," read one. "I hope you know all of the words to the National Anthem and sing it with your hand over your heart. I hope you jump in rain puddles."



If there are rain puddles in heaven, Christina is jumping in them today. And here on Earth, we place our hands over our hearts, and commit ourselves as Americans to forging a country that is forever worthy of her gentle, happy spirit.



May God bless and keep those we've lost in restful and eternal peace. May He love and watch over the survivors. And may He bless the United States of America."


Can you not agree?

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  • Sissy 2011/01/17 02:14:26
    None of the above
    Sissy
    +4
    You know what? I think we on the Left would be mighty sad if ol' Sarah just stopped giving! If you know what I mean. LOL

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  • Carol 2011/01/17 18:11:37
    Yup, Palin just lit a bomb for herself. I knew she'd do something.
    Carol
    +1
    Her understanding is very limited.
  • broken hearted survivor 2011/01/17 03:35:36
    Yup, Palin just lit a bomb for herself. I was never for her, but I didn't thi...
    broken hearted survivor
    +3
    Palin used the word Blood Lible because she is so arrogant that she believes anyone daring to hold her responsible for her own words is committing an atrocity as bad as Hitlers treatment of the Jews. And there is the true, purposeful connection that she and her buddy Beck love to make for their cult of followers: Obama = Hitler. It was a dog-whistle aimed at the simmering mobs: "You should be AS outraged by anyone daring to insult ME, as anyone should be by the extermination of the Jews!" Her arrogance has grown exponentially with her number of fb fans.

    I've been surprised that no one seem to have caught that she took the opportunity of 6 innocent American citizens' murders to, yet again, label her opposition as "Evil".

    And this is the real heart of her depravity: She urges her cult of followers to perceive the opposition (Democrats), not as fellow American Citizens who hold an opposing point of view, opinions, goals, or policies - but as a Force for Evil, NOT legitimately American, lacking in morals, and somehow less than "real" humans.

    She encourages her followers to an "if you aren't with us, you are against us" mentality, dehumanizes the opposition while labling them as Evil, and grants herself and her followers as morally superior. It is a formula for b...





    Palin used the word Blood Lible because she is so arrogant that she believes anyone daring to hold her responsible for her own words is committing an atrocity as bad as Hitlers treatment of the Jews. And there is the true, purposeful connection that she and her buddy Beck love to make for their cult of followers: Obama = Hitler. It was a dog-whistle aimed at the simmering mobs: "You should be AS outraged by anyone daring to insult ME, as anyone should be by the extermination of the Jews!" Her arrogance has grown exponentially with her number of fb fans.

    I've been surprised that no one seem to have caught that she took the opportunity of 6 innocent American citizens' murders to, yet again, label her opposition as "Evil".

    And this is the real heart of her depravity: She urges her cult of followers to perceive the opposition (Democrats), not as fellow American Citizens who hold an opposing point of view, opinions, goals, or policies - but as a Force for Evil, NOT legitimately American, lacking in morals, and somehow less than "real" humans.

    She encourages her followers to an "if you aren't with us, you are against us" mentality, dehumanizes the opposition while labling them as Evil, and grants herself and her followers as morally superior. It is a formula for bloodshed, fully conceived of, endorsed, and preached by The Republican Party. They are all perfectly "on message" from the new Speaker of the House, throughout congress, throughout the upper echilon of the business community, blanketing Right Wing Media outlets - cable "news", talk radio, magazine, newsprint, blogosphere, and even grade school text-books - and perhaps worst of all, a great many Christian Churches.

    Ask yourself: What harm could it have done her to apologize for her use of violent imagery and rhetoric? What harm would it be for her - and the entire Republican Party - to, in the interests of doing what is best for the people of this Country, in the interest of compassion and common human decency, in the interest of Christian Morality, and in light of the weekends human tragedy..... what harm would it be for her to proclaim an intention to remove allusions to violence in Political Discourse?

    Those two simple and admirable sentiments would have done her NO HARM. In fact, would have likely increased her esteem universally - from The Right through The Left and, indeed, world-wide.

    She and her party have made too much progress in dehumanizing their "enemies"..... they dare not allow their obedient flock to recall their humanity now.
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  • Sissy 2011/01/17 02:14:26
    None of the above
    Sissy
    +4
    You know what? I think we on the Left would be mighty sad if ol' Sarah just stopped giving! If you know what I mean. LOL
  • All-Ame... Sissy 2011/01/17 02:15:51
  • uncle r... Sissy 2011/01/20 16:51:57 (edited)
    uncle remus
    +2
    you are correct, I really miss the 'Bagger rallies and town hollers they were such great live entertainment,the best! ignorance and stupidity at it's finest.!! lol
    bagger rallies town hollers live entertainmentthe ignorance stupidity finest
  • Sissy uncle r... 2011/01/20 18:35:42
    Sissy
    +1
    I hadn't seen that sign before uncle remus. How fortunate that you don't need to have two brain cells to rub together to join the bags, isn't it? LOL
  • All-Ame... uncle r... 2011/01/23 23:23:50
    All-American Bitch
    +1
    Ignorance and stupidity at its finest. lol.
  • wombat 2011/01/14 18:06:42
    Yup, Palin just lit a bomb for herself. I was for her, but now im not.
    wombat
    +3
    she is aggressive and dumb.
  • Dave Sawyer ♥ Child of God ♥ 2011/01/13 23:49:21
    NO! I still stand by her side! This is all Bull!
    Dave Sawyer ♥ Child of God ♥
    1) "blood libel" is two words. It's nice that you know so much history, but is it likely she used it in that sense?

    2) There is no evidence and no reason to think she influenced the shooter.

    3) The media has never tried to make her look better.

    4) I see "Wiccan" used a lot on Sodahead. And again, it is not one word.

    5) I am a Conservative Republican, and for that I am probably an extremist, but I am not racist.

    Are you saying that to be a victim is to represent America?

    How is the word "racist", which you use, any better than "blood libel"?
  • All-Ame... Dave Sa... 2011/01/15 19:22:50 (edited)
    All-American Bitch
    +6
    1) "blood libel" is a word that is uncommon, like the word Wiccan. If you want details read the description. The fact that Palin even knew the word is not very Kosher.

    2) She hosted rallies showing a map. I'm sure you know about it.
    details read description palin kosher 2 hosted rallies map palin map

    Gabrielle Griffods happen to be on the list and a Jew.

    No there is no ''evidence'', but there is a reason to think that Palin had an influence. Either way, Palin should have swallowed her pride and apologized out of respect for the victims. She choses to let these victims die in vain. Did you even read the bold in Obama's speech?

    3) Even Fox? The media have tried their best by even giving her the time of day and a REALITY SHOW. Now the media is tired.

    4) Wiccan is one word. I know this for a fact. SH is BS. I've found that out a long time ago. If you want facts, go to Google and governement/edu sites. Not this one.

    5) You were a Conservative Rep.; but that doesn't make you an extremist. You have the class enough to debate instead of block. I respect that.

    No. If you feel that way, then you have misunderstood the point of this post.

    It isn't. But Palin is a undermining racist in my view.
  • Dave Sa... All-Ame... 2011/01/15 19:41:26
    Dave Sawyer ♥ Child of God ♥
    1) Well you've split it into two words, but you are still calling it "a word". I had never heard the expression, but using the two words together made the meaning clear enough - not apparently the meaning you ascribe to it - does that mean you are not very Kosher?

    2) Now if the list had been found among the shooter's stuff, then you might have a point. I don't see a Jew on the list - why do you? The people on that list were people they wanted to defeat at the polls, not to shoot.

    3) Well, then you admit that the Main Media, the ones Obama approves of, have done nothing to make Sarah look good.

    4) When I said "It is not one word" I was referring to "bloodlibel", not Wiccan.

    5) Thanks, but you may tire of debating me.

    I will still fight for what I believe in and I believe that the Founders did not intend for anyone to take over the liberties they were given when this Country was founded. Sarah has guns but she doesn't use them on people. The crosshairs were fine; she shouldn't have been shamed into removing them - they are used on maps for many purposes (few having to do with killing people).

    How is Sarah Palin a racist? The word is worn out by now and means nothing anymore the way it is used.
  • All-Ame... Dave Sa... 2011/01/16 02:04:07
    All-American Bitch
    +6
    1) What i meant was that the PHRASE is so uncommon and sick that most likely a person that even know it exists is not totally Kosher.

    2) When Palin tweets "Dont retreat, reload." and uses it as a motto at her rallies then shows this map, it's hard for the crazy extremists to put 2 and 2 together.

    3) The media if anything was trying to give the fairest playing field they could give. It's not their fault that Obama whips her ass by a long shot. The point is that Palin can't just swallow her pride and apologize. No! She decides to retaliate and blame, and let the victims die in vain. She just got a response she didn't expect.

    4) Debating is my passion, especially when political. I don't mind.

    5) The Crosshairs were not fine. I could see Palin saying that the Democrats should not be in office and give political reasons why; but to subtley encourage their extermination is mental. If you have not noticed, this is the only site that bothers with her now. Even FOX and the Tea Party broadcast her for 1 minute then continues to the next subkect. She's done. I'm just glad she;s self-destructing. Less work for the liberals.

    6) Is it not racist by assuming Obama is a terrorist based on him name and color? When has Palin refuted Obama's opinions and political views? All she did wa...





    1) What i meant was that the PHRASE is so uncommon and sick that most likely a person that even know it exists is not totally Kosher.

    2) When Palin tweets "Dont retreat, reload." and uses it as a motto at her rallies then shows this map, it's hard for the crazy extremists to put 2 and 2 together.

    3) The media if anything was trying to give the fairest playing field they could give. It's not their fault that Obama whips her ass by a long shot. The point is that Palin can't just swallow her pride and apologize. No! She decides to retaliate and blame, and let the victims die in vain. She just got a response she didn't expect.

    4) Debating is my passion, especially when political. I don't mind.

    5) The Crosshairs were not fine. I could see Palin saying that the Democrats should not be in office and give political reasons why; but to subtley encourage their extermination is mental. If you have not noticed, this is the only site that bothers with her now. Even FOX and the Tea Party broadcast her for 1 minute then continues to the next subkect. She's done. I'm just glad she;s self-destructing. Less work for the liberals.

    6) Is it not racist by assuming Obama is a terrorist based on him name and color? When has Palin refuted Obama's opinions and political views? All she did was mud-sling which is what politics have come to. It's shameful. We are Americans and should be debating not creating rumors like girly, high school students.

    Is it not racist to accuse Obama of being a Muslim like there is something wrong with being a Muslim? She is a 'true American' but doesn't not follow the right of Freedom of Religion?

    Did she not emphasize if not release the false birth certificate from Kenya?

    These are all examples of Palin subtley discrimnating against a race through Obama. I'm proud of Obama for not engaging into the pettiness of arguing. We are not high school students anymore. We are full-grown Americans that should be above this behavior.
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  • Dave Sa... All-Ame... 2011/01/16 02:23:46 (edited)
    Dave Sawyer ♥ Child of God ♥
    1) But YOU know it exists. I didn't find the phrase to be "sick". We have changed the meaning of a lot of words and expressions over the years.
    2) It is hard for "crazies" to put 2 and 2 together anyway.
    3) What? Apologize for an imagined offense?
    4) Great!
    5) She was not subtly encouraging their extermination - are you one of those "crazies" you say can't put 2 and 2 together? I did not know the TEA Party had a broadcast.
    6) Who is calling Obama a terrorist based on his name and color? Arabs aren't black. I've only called Obama a Liar because that's what he does. Has nothing to do with his color or name. He was the one who didn't like the use of his middle name.

    I have no idea where the Kenyan birth certificate came from. I know it was Hillary supporters who started the question of his Hawaiian birth certificate.
  • All-Ame... Dave Sa... 2011/01/16 02:28:31
    All-American Bitch
    +5
    1) Everyone who follows politics knows the word now. :P

    2) Not really. It's just that they get 5 instead of 4.

    3) Apologize out of respect for the victims, especially when she has a relation to the incident.

    4) What I meant the media and her team are not giving her the attention she wants. They don't want to be equated with her anymore. They don't even use her as a validation of their group.

    5) No, Arabs are not always black, but you Palin doesn't get that. Plus, it's Palin im talking about.

    6) I don't support Hilary Clinton or even follow her enough to pick and engage in a side. But I did no most conservatives that fed into the false accusation were Palin followers. Coincidence? I think not.
  • Dave Sa... All-Ame... 2011/01/16 02:36:55
    Dave Sawyer ♥ Child of God ♥
    1) Yes. I know it now, but I interpret it in a different light.
    2) No one should be held responsible for that - even the crazies get an insanity defense.
    3) She had no relation to the incident.
    4) The Media (except for FOX) were only giving her bad press before.
    5) Anyone should be interested if Obama is not an American citizen.
    6) Hilary's supporters shut up when she lost to support the Party. Palin's supporters had no reason to support the Democrats.
  • All-Ame... Dave Sa... 2011/01/17 00:50:29
    All-American Bitch
    +5
    1) I knew the word because of Sarah Palin. I looked it up because I wanted to know. How she knows the word is very suspicious.

    2) Yes, and sadly Pailn isn't qualified for it.

    3) And? Does that still mean she had the moral right to back and choose to argue instead of mourn?

    -But what we can't do is use this tragedy as one more occasion to turn on one another. As we discuss these issues, let each of us do so with a good dose of humility. Rather than pointing fingers or assigning blame, let us use this occasion to expand our moral imaginations, to listen to each other more carefully, to sharpen our instincts for empathy, and remind ourselves of all the ways our hopes and dreams are bound together.

    -And so deserving of our good example. If this tragedy prompts reflection and debate, as it should,let's make sure it's worthy of those we have lost. Let's make sure it's not on the usual plane of politics and point scoring and pettiness that drifts away with the next news cycle.

    As much as you may dislike Obama, you cannot deny the truth of his words. These people's lives should not just mean another spark to start a fight. Palin, of course, misunderstood the situation.

    4) Define bad press. For instance, the newspapers have been writing stories that were impartial. The chan...





    1) I knew the word because of Sarah Palin. I looked it up because I wanted to know. How she knows the word is very suspicious.

    2) Yes, and sadly Pailn isn't qualified for it.

    3) And? Does that still mean she had the moral right to back and choose to argue instead of mourn?

    -But what we can't do is use this tragedy as one more occasion to turn on one another. As we discuss these issues, let each of us do so with a good dose of humility. Rather than pointing fingers or assigning blame, let us use this occasion to expand our moral imaginations, to listen to each other more carefully, to sharpen our instincts for empathy, and remind ourselves of all the ways our hopes and dreams are bound together.

    -And so deserving of our good example. If this tragedy prompts reflection and debate, as it should,let's make sure it's worthy of those we have lost. Let's make sure it's not on the usual plane of politics and point scoring and pettiness that drifts away with the next news cycle.

    As much as you may dislike Obama, you cannot deny the truth of his words. These people's lives should not just mean another spark to start a fight. Palin, of course, misunderstood the situation.

    4) Define bad press. For instance, the newspapers have been writing stories that were impartial. The channels have been giving her publicity.

    Either way, it was not the media job to make Palin look better. Palin should have gotten a better image, like Lindsay Lohan.

    5) Yes, but Palin is the topic in this post. This is petty and stupid. I do not have to explain myself in this part.

    6) Who said they had to?
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  • Dave Sa... All-Ame... 2011/01/17 00:55:57
    Dave Sawyer ♥ Child of God ♥
    You obviously don't think that Conservatives have the same rights as everyone else.

    You have been pointing fingers at Palin, who had nothing to do with the tragedy - take your own advice.

    I have never heard a word from Obama that was not self-serving. He is a great orator, but he does not stand by his own words.
  • All-Ame... Dave Sa... 2011/01/17 01:08:10
    All-American Bitch
    +7
    I actually think that every legal American should have the same rights. Therefore, i respect Consevratives if they carry a mature and/or educated image. Same with Democrats.

    I've been pointing fingers at Palin simply because there is a reason to and someone needs to speak out about it. Whether the statement is credible or not is the issue you brought. I gave my reasons. If you can't comprehend them, pull up a dictionary and re-read my comments.

    How are the quotes above 'self-serving"? As far as I see, they are words of wisdom that give advice to others on how to react to this political/emotional/social tragedy.
  • Dave Sa... All-Ame... 2011/01/17 01:37:50
    Dave Sawyer ♥ Child of God ♥
    So you are just a snob.

    Since most everyone had a public education, who do you blame for everyone not having the same smarts?

    There is no reason to blame Palin for what happened in Tuscon.

    They are self-serving because he has to raise his public image to get re-elected.

    His own record of reacting to situations has not been exemplary.
  • All-Ame... Dave Sa... 2011/01/17 01:59:21
    All-American Bitch
    +6
    I am a snob, but I will treat just the same as you act. If you are a well informed or presentable person who has the showmanship and intelligence of someone of class, I will treat you as such.
    Yet, if you act like a child acting up in a store; I will ignore your behavior and stroll on by with my shopping cart, leaving your parents to get you.

    I blame the persecutors. There are many who come from the worst of circumstances and still go to college, get careers, and/or become famous. Eminem for example. A bad childhood is no reason to give up on yourself. You as a conservative, should understand this priniciple the most; since most likely you don't favor 'Obamacare' and refuse to pay and care for other families. Same understanding.

    You didn't change the subject, but you changed the perspective. Sneaky, but not going pass me. How are the quotes above self-serving?

    Oh! So Obama should have slung mud back at Palin and chose revenge over America during the Presidential Race? I bet that reaction would have been better, wouldn't it? He would fall into the trap of Palin and she could just have more true colors to paint her resume with. Too bad Obama didn't react and she was left with nothing. :(

    Sometimes, it's better to ignore the bad child in the store.
  • Dave Sa... All-Ame... 2011/01/17 02:03:24
    Dave Sawyer ♥ Child of God ♥
    I support the poor through my Church.

    Obama can get someone else to do the dirty work. Why should he dirty his own hands?

    Unless the child is pulling things off of the shelf.
  • All-Ame... Dave Sa... 2011/01/17 02:17:46
    All-American Bitch
    +4
    We can't all save the world but you shouldn't treat the poor like lower classmen who need a charity case to get help. no. they should be helped nationwide. Therefore, I vote 4 the Obamacare.

    Why should the playingfield be dirty in the first place?
  • Dave Sa... All-Ame... 2011/01/17 02:21:51
    Dave Sawyer ♥ Child of God ♥
    My Church is world wide.

    Obamacare is not charity. It is robbing from one to give to another.

    Politics has been dirty for decades.
  • broken ... All-Ame... 2011/01/17 02:32:47
    broken hearted survivor
    +3
    well said
  • Sissy All-Ame... 2011/01/17 02:19:27
  • All-Ame... Sissy 2011/01/19 03:31:03
    All-American Bitch
    idiotic pictures dont offend me. :/ i view them as rather childish.
  • Sissy All-Ame... 2011/01/20 14:04:35
    Sissy
    +1
    I agree, some certainly are rather childish and can be pretty offensive as well. Its just those other times when it expresses what you're thinking better than words. This is one of those times.
  • All-Ame... Dave Sa... 2011/01/15 19:24:27
    All-American Bitch
    +3
    Did i also mention she tweeted "dont retreat, reload"?
  • Dave Sa... All-Ame... 2011/01/15 19:43:57
    Dave Sawyer ♥ Child of God ♥
    Maybe she should change it to "Don't give up the ship"? It's an expression of encouragement. In our Church, we use "Endure to the end". In the Salvation Army of which I was once a member, they used "Praise the Lord, and pass the ammunition." Do you think they were going to go out and shoot people? Maybe you do, but I know they were not.
  • All-Ame... Dave Sa... 2011/01/16 02:06:41
    All-American Bitch
    +8
    1) I do not want to bring religion into this.

    2) I do not think those mottos have a violent message to them, but you act as there is no difference. There IS a difference between saying "Stand for what you believe in" and "Weakness is not pulling the trigger." Small, but effective.
  • Dave Sa... All-Ame... 2011/01/16 02:24:54
    Dave Sawyer ♥ Child of God ♥
    There is no difference but the words. The meaning is the same.
  • All-Ame... Dave Sa... 2011/01/16 02:29:01
    All-American Bitch
    +8
    Who said standing for what you believe in required violence?
  • Dave Sa... All-Ame... 2011/01/16 02:37:44
    Dave Sawyer ♥ Child of God ♥
    No one asked for violence - they were only symbolic triggers.
  • All-Ame... Dave Sa... 2011/01/17 00:51:40
    All-American Bitch
    +6
    "Don't retreat, reload." insinuates violence, along with the crosshair-map. This is a debate you cannot win, sir.
  • Dave Sa... All-Ame... 2011/01/17 00:57:17
    Dave Sawyer ♥ Child of God ♥
    +1
    No more than "Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition." - used by the Salvation Army.
  • ὤTṻnde΄ӂ Dave Sa... 2011/01/17 01:07:43
    ὤTṻnde΄ӂ
    +11
    "Praise the Lord and Pass the Ammunition" is an American patriotic song written by Frank Loesser and published as sheet music in 1942 by Famous Music Corp. The song was a response to the Attack on Pearl Harbor that marked United States involvement in World War II. The song describes a chaplain ("sky pilot") being with some fighting men who are under attack from an enemy. He is asked to say a prayer for the men who were engaged in firing at the oncoming planes. The chaplain puts down his Bible, mans one of the ship's gun turrets and begins firing back, saying, "Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition".
  • All-Ame... ὤTṻnde΄ӂ 2011/01/17 01:08:59
    All-American Bitch
    +5
    Wow. someone knows their history. :)
  • Dave Sa... ὤTṻnde΄ӂ 2011/01/17 01:39:29
    Dave Sawyer ♥ Child of God ♥
    Very good. Now is that insinuating violence?
  • #Justic... ὤTṻnde΄ӂ 2011/01/17 04:50:27
    #Justice4Trayvon 629 BLOCKT CONS
    +4
    My mother usta sing that song when I was coming up. She was born in 1926 & worked at Rome Air Depot (later known as Griffiss AFB in Rome, NY) during WW2.

    Thanx so much for that info my feathered friend.
  • ὤTṻnde΄ӂ Dave Sa... 2011/01/17 01:04:14
    ὤTṻnde΄ӂ
    +6
    In your head only.

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