Is it hypocritical to cry foul over a boycott when your group organizes boycotts frequently?

by JDLogan Posted 2012/07/28 16:36:36

Related Topics: Planned Parenthood, God, First Amendment, Christian, Boycott, Dr Pepper, Politics, Pledge Of Allegiance, Under God, Chick-fil-a, Parenthood, CEO

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The Chick-fil-a boycott is raising quite a stir with Christians claiming chief executive Dan Cathy has The First Amendment right to state his opinion. Many would argue that not doing business with his company is also a First Amendment protected expression of opinion.

The problem for me is that Christians often boycott businesses over matters of opinion, policy and expression, sometimes over matters that aren't even true.

http://www.christiannewswire.com/news/9903117746.html

Show one Christian organizations boycott list over Planned Parenthood. Some organizations are on a "Dishonorable Mentions" list because they do not completely and whole-heartedly damn the very existence of Planned Parenthood.

Various Christian organizations launched boycotts against Pepsi, Coke and Dr Pepper over cans that had a few words of the Pledge of Allegiance on them; cans that only Dr Pepper made, cans that many organizations said or implied had the entire pledge minus "Under God" (the point of the boycott) on them, which was never true, the cans only had a few words from the pledge. And even if you make the leap that there was a legitimate reason to boycott one company, what about the other two?

www.snopes.com/politics/business/undergod.asp

So, regardless of whether you agree with the Chick-fil-a position (or at least their CEO's position) or not, do you agree complaining about the boycott is hypocritical?

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Deliciously Melicious 2012/07/28 16:42:26

There is blatant hypocracy there.

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I do agree. Both are within their rights. The ceo to make his comments and the general public to boycott his company because they don't like it.

So many Christians have the "do as I say, not as I do" attitude, and this is one of the biggest problems I have with the religion, they are often hypocritical in many things.
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elijahin24 2012/07/30 03:11:58

There is blatant hypocracy there.

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Wait, a Christian group being hypocritical? Say it isn't so!

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Katherine 2012/07/28 22:03:36

There is no hypocracy with this.

If there's hypocrisy, it's on the side of the radical left. Some people will purchase what they purchase and leave politics aside. Some people feel strongly about their beliefs and will pick one product over another based on the option not to support something they don't agree with. Those are fine. Then there are the radical left who terrorizes people the moment they find out you don't submit to their beliefs and they'll keep at it until you're dead or cave in. You can't even hand out fliers in front of Planned Parenthood, even though half of their billion-dollar budget is paid for with taxpayer money, that they cover up rapes and incest, target minority groups, teach kids about anal sex and bestiality and if drinking urine is unhealthy, even though they encourage little children to get abortions (try to divert as many as possible from adoption) without the knowledge of the parents responsible for raising them. There's enough about the American Birth Control League aka Planned Genocide to write a library full of books. You can't boycott them, they're publicly funded and in our school system. This is not about boycotts, it's about bullying and intimidating people for their beliefs. And if I might inject my personal opinion, beliefs that support normality. Something even our so-...

If there's hypocrisy, it's on the side of the radical left. Some people will purchase what they purchase and leave politics aside. Some people feel strongly about their beliefs and will pick one product over another based on the option not to support something they don't agree with. Those are fine. Then there are the radical left who terrorizes people the moment they find out you don't submit to their beliefs and they'll keep at it until you're dead or cave in. You can't even hand out fliers in front of Planned Parenthood, even though half of their billion-dollar budget is paid for with taxpayer money, that they cover up rapes and incest, target minority groups, teach kids about anal sex and bestiality and if drinking urine is unhealthy, even though they encourage little children to get abortions (try to divert as many as possible from adoption) without the knowledge of the parents responsible for raising them. There's enough about the American Birth Control League aka Planned Genocide to write a library full of books. You can't boycott them, they're publicly funded and in our school system. This is not about boycotts, it's about bullying and intimidating people for their beliefs. And if I might inject my personal opinion, beliefs that support normality. Something even our so-called president believed in until it became politically expedient for him to change his mind. The thing is, there's only about 1.5-2% of the population that are gay. This isn't even being orchestrated by gays, but by militants that I have to deduce hate Christianity, since no other religion -- in spite of it being the forbidden in other religions -- are under attack. I don't see Islam attacked and threatened, even though in their religion the punishment is hanging. Christians just don't condone an unhealthy lifestyle, believe it's a sin and want to help those people find God. How terrible is that? You're given a choice in life, but it's up to you whether you accept it or not. It isn't, however, for you to force it onto others. Christians are forced to teach their children homosexuality. Unhealthy. Not even forced to teach something healthy -- like states trying to ban salt, ban soda, ban fat, ban sugar for the "greater good." It's not the same thing and they know it.
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Ruby De... to Katherine 2012/07/29 00:38:43
JDLogan to Katherine 2012/08/01 00:48:43

Your bigotry, hatred, lies and name calling have gotten you blocked.

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Piperpc 2012/07/28 19:26:56

There is blatant hypocracy there.

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Yes, and I was about point this out on another SH poll. Some of the very people that are acting outraged over Chick-fil-A getting boycotted and 'harassed', are the ones who said they would boycott JC Penney, simply for hiring Ellen Degeneres as their spokesperson.

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Delicio... to Piperpc 2012/07/29 00:46:25

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Or Kraft foods for the rainbow Oreo??

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Piperpc to Delicio... 2012/07/29 02:15:05

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That too, of course. Those "Christian Family Values" folks are very busy, worrying about other people's values, based on generalizations.

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Diane Spraggs Yates 2012/07/28 17:59:08

Undecided

Anyone is free to go where they choose it is everyone choice I am going 4 times more often now you can not if you choose FREE Country yet !!!!

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JDLogan to Diane S... 2012/07/28 18:07:00

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So no opinion on the hypocracy of calling foul on a politically motivated boycott by people who do the exact same thing. The question says "So, regardless of whether you agree with the Chick-fil-a position (or at least their CEO's position) or not, do you agree complaining about the boycott is hypocritical?"

Now that you've answered the question not asked, how about answering the question asked?

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Diane S... to JDLogan 2012/07/28 18:20:56

There is no hypocracy with this.

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elijahin24 to JDLogan 2012/07/30 03:13:04

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Don't waste your time with her JD. It's only hypocrisy to them, if other people do it.

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Distort... to Diane S... 2012/08/02 01:46:27

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If it's a "FREE Country", let the gay people have their silly marriages as well as the straight. Oh wait, it's only a "FREE Country" for the bible thumpers, right?

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thefatguy 2012/07/28 17:49:58

There is no hypocracy with this.

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Typical of the Left, which has no standards, to decry the right for having standards. I am amazed at the ability of the Left to point out the "hypocrisy" of others but completely ignore their own. The biggest hypocrites are the Leftists.

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JDLogan to thefatguy 2012/07/28 17:57:49

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I'm a Libertarian, the party of principles. So you think it's only ok for Christians to boycott companies with stands they dislike? How very "loving, forgiving God" Christian of you.

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thefatguy to JDLogan 2012/07/28 18:15:42

First, your whole premise is bogus. I have not heard one person, Christian or otherwise, "cry foul" over a boycott of Chick-fil-A. What I have heard is Christians voice support for Chick-fil-A and planning a reverse boycott on August 1.

And, nice straw man argument but I never said that "it's only ok for Christians to boycott companies with stands they dislike". People can boycott whatever they want for whatever reason they want, whether Christian or not. It has nothing to do with a "loving, forgiving God".

And, you assume I am a Christian. Don't you know the old adage about making assumptions?

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JDLogan to thefatguy 2012/07/28 18:39:50

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I've seen and heard many Christians claim the boycott somehow infringes on Dan Cathy's First Amendment rights. The claim that it is not hypocritical to critisize one group for a boycott and support another shows alliance with one side or another. If you really believed anyone can boycott whatever they want, you would see the hypocrisy here. And excuse me for assuming you are Christian, you support their position and respond as they do.

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thefatguy to JDLogan 2012/07/28 18:59:57

I don't believe there's any hypocrisy because I haven't seen any evidence that "many Christians claim the boycott somehow infringes on Dan Cathy's First Amendment rights". What I have heard is Christians (and others) stating that the local government refusing to grant building permits for new Chick-fil-A restaurants infringes on Dan Cathy's First Amendment rights. It is not the boycott they oppose but the government censure, by way of preventing the growth of the CFA chain.

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elijahin24 to thefatguy 2012/07/30 03:14:23

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That's right. We decry you for having standardS (plural) as in one for you, and a different one for everyone else. This is commonly known as a "double-standard". It's also known as hypocrisy.

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thefatguy to elijahin24 2012/08/01 00:27:15

I will repeat myself. I am amazed at the ability of the Left to point out the "hypocrisy" of others but completely ignore their own. The biggest hypocrites are the Leftists.

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elijahin24 to thefatguy 2012/08/01 00:47:53 (edited)

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I don't deny that there are hypocrites on all sides; but to say unequivically and without any way to support the claim with proof, that "the biggest hypocrites are the Leftists" (by the way, I love that term); is pointless. You'll say we are, I could say that you are, and neither of us would change our minds. Instead, why don't we focus on THIS issue.
FACT: Christians and right-wingers boycott anything and everything that they find offensive.
FACT: Liberals find Chick-Fil-A to be offensive.
FACT: To call us out for something your side regularly does, is , by definition, hypocritical.

See how easy that was?

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thefatguy to elijahin24 2012/08/01 01:14:29

FACT: Christians and right-wingers boycott things that they find offensive.
FACT: "Liberals" boycott things that they find offensive.
FACT: Christians and right-wingers find redefining "marriage" to include same sex couples to be offensive.
FACT: Liberals find Chick-Fil-A to be offensive.
FACT: No one is calling you out for boycotting Chick-fil-A. We don't care. I haven't seen any evidence that Christians oppose the Leftists right to boycott. What I have heard is Christians (and others) stating that the local government refusing to grant building permits for new Chick-fil-A restaurants infringes on Dan Cathy's rights. So, it is not the boycott which is opposed but the government censure, by way of preventing the growth of the CFA chain. Therefore, your charge of hypocrisy is, as usual, bogus and disingenuous.

See how easy that was?

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elijahin24 to thefatguy 2012/08/01 01:59:43

Would you be upset if the group Cathy was giving money to, was the KKK or Neo-Nazi's?

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thefatguy to elijahin24 2012/08/01 02:47:13

I would be upset, yes, and I would boycott them. What's your point?

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elijahin24 to thefatguy 2012/08/01 02:49:55

Would you oppose a mayor of a city, denying him the right to build a franchise in his city, if he was giving money to these groups?

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thefatguy to elijahin24 2012/08/01 02:59:57

I don't understand what you're asking me. Are you asking if I'd oppose the mayor of a city who donates to the KKK and/or other white supremacist groups? Or, are you talking about Chick-fil-A? I don't understand what franchise you're talking about.

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elijahin24 to thefatguy 2012/08/01 03:02:10

If a mayor tried to stop a guy who owned a restaurant chain from moving into his city, because the restaurant owner donated much of his earnings to the KKK; would you oppose that mayor for his action?

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thefatguy to elijahin24 2012/08/01 03:29:10

Yes, I would oppose the mayor if he was denying a restaurant owner from opening a business because of the owner's financial and philosophical support for the KKK.

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elijahin24 to thefatguy 2012/08/01 12:11:49

Fair enough. At least you're consistent.

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Xerxes,Phantom of PHAET 2012/07/28 17:26:50

Undecided

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Unfortunately you have zealots(both sides) that care little for the facts or the rights of others, just want to make a much ado over nothing.

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Randy 2012/07/28 17:05:42 (edited)

Undecided

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It's just that when liberals boycot, they got to individual's homes and actually terrorize the neighborhood! They seek and destroy peoples reputations, hope and pray for excruciating death from sickness.

When I hear all the belly aching about Chick-Fil-A, which closes on Sunday because of Christian values. What in the world are you lefties worried about? Marriage between a man and woman, as it has been for ages? Why the silence then concerning Islam, who will stone or behead all factions included in this argument for not consorting to their believes?
Oh, concerning Planned Parenthood, with almost 56,000,000 abortions since 1973, I'm not a big fan either!

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ed 2012/07/28 17:03:13

There is blatant hypocracy there.

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I am sure there will more people going to CHIC-FIL-A now more than ever then people not going.

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bags the Indigenous Guru 2012/07/28 16:44:36

There is blatant hypocracy there.

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Good post. Very good post.

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Deliciously Melicious 2012/07/28 16:42:26

There is blatant hypocracy there.

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I do agree. Both are within their rights. The ceo to make his comments and the general public to boycott his company because they don't like it.

So many Christians have the "do as I say, not as I do" attitude, and this is one of the biggest problems I have with the religion, they are often hypocritical in many things.

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