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Is it free speech to prohibit someone else's free speech?

Step Up For Israel 2012/03/26 17:23:33
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Two Israeli soldiers came to speak at UC Davis about their experiences in the IDF. A heckler refused to let them give their presentation, even after they said they'd be willing to talk with him for as long as he liked after they finished. The heckler blatantly stated that he was using his "free speech" to prohibit others from using theirs. This is illegal according to US law. Do you think it's ok?

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  • txgamer Thomas ... 2012/03/26 23:59:43
    txgamer
    Couldn't have said it better myself!
  • Rob Williams 2012/03/26 22:37:20
    No
    Rob Williams
    No... free speech means that both sides of the argument should be heard.
  • jrickell 2012/03/26 22:31:04
  • Honeybuns 2012/03/26 21:56:27
    No
    Honeybuns
    No that's not fair i think. Everyone should be able to speak their mind. and espically seen those are soliders. But are they helping america or aganist america?. I don't know that's why im asking.
  • Rubyking 2012/03/26 21:55:57
    No
    Rubyking
    +1
    that's not free speech, that's suppression
  • vicNav45 2012/03/26 21:55:05
    No
    vicNav45
    +1
    It's called being a classless loon. Traditional societal norms allow people to voice their opinion freely, and then have oppposing viewpoints heard. Unfortunately, we have crazies running society now and everyday, they redefine the "normal", the "acceptable" according to the skewed, alternative reality in which they reside.
  • Richard 2012/03/26 21:51:15
    Yes
    Richard
    Free speech is free speech...
  • John Bubblo 2012/03/26 21:42:27
    No
    John Bubblo
    +1
    First of all, shouting over others is not communicating, which is the implication underlying the free speech clause. Second, anyone has a right to say what he wants (with some restrictions) but it does not mean that he has a right to claim a public platform as his own.
  • alun.pa... John Bu... 2012/03/26 23:09:43
    alun.palmer
    I agree with this too, so why did you vote no? Seems like we have a different understanding of the question.
  • ZB 2012/03/26 21:33:03
    No
    ZB
    +1
    I believe it's called "being an ass"
  • Space Invader 2012/03/26 21:29:11
    No
    Space Invader
    I say take the punks outside; give them a beat-down; then blame it on the "White Hispanics"..the seem to be the whipping boys of the month...
  • Hawkeye 2012/03/26 21:27:57
    No
    Hawkeye
    A good rule of thumb,, in MY opinion,, is that the rights of one person ends where the rights of another are being violated..
  • Doctor 2012/03/26 21:25:12
    Yes
    Doctor
    He is in no violation of the law! I'd do the same thing for a good cause! Right on Israeli! Right on!
  • lynda.appell2 2012/03/26 20:58:33
    Yes
    lynda.appell2
    MKRosen you seem to be only interested in Israel. Yes a Jewish homeland is important. There are other important issues too such as Republican cuts to medicaid, medicare,social security, slashing of social services to the needy, including people with disabilities. You seem to posses a one track mind. To reply to your question it seems like conundrum to me. IMHO the speaker should be permitted to finish his speech. Then let hte heckler say what wanted to too. The man who did the heckling was rude. He seems to like to bully people. What if the speaker was a neonazi spewing hate?
  • alun.pa... lynda.a... 2012/03/26 23:11:50
    alun.palmer
    Hecking IS rude - and it's also free speech
  • Jan Nel 2012/03/26 20:51:54
    No
    Jan Nel
    +1
    No, it's not wise to openly display one's ignorance.
  • SyDrark7 2012/03/26 20:50:14
    No
    SyDrark7
    +1
    i say no, but the questions in its self is a causal loop, what the person is saying is free speech yet preventing the other person from saying what they want to is not free speech
  • Jan Haskell 2012/03/26 20:43:46
    No
    Jan Haskell
    Just rude and stupid ... a lot like bullying.
  • Jose Hernandez 2012/03/26 20:39:12
    No
    Jose Hernandez
    We have the right to free speech. Prohibiting it as an excuse from "criminals and terrorists" is stupid and should be abolished.
  • freed-mind 2012/03/26 20:38:29
    No
    freed-mind
    HOWEVER, it IS free speech to speak against what another is saying.
  • Robert 2012/03/26 20:35:04
    No
    Robert
    No,its rude. Let them finish, then voice your opinion.
  • Johann Robert 2012/03/27 07:30:51
    Johann
    Etiquette and simplicities of life are very down in today's society. We keep heading in the wrong direction.
  • Robert Johann 2012/04/16 02:12:45
    Robert
    I agree with your statement, however, if you PROHIBATE someone else from voicing their opinion, you would be violating their constitutional rights. Even if you disagree with them wholeheartedly, it would be wrong to stop them. Just like it was wrong for the police to arrest a gentleman who was reading from the Bible in the parking lot to the DMV. I believe his arrest was illegal, because they violated his constitutional rights.
  • Old Salt 2012/03/26 20:32:38
    Yes
    Old Salt
    Keep in mind that while we all share the same freedom of speech, that freedom is NOT absolute (remember the Supreme Court's "yelling fire in a crowded theater" ruling). That free speech which is, in any particular moment and venue, going to cause disruption and/or violence, may at that moment be strictly legal, but exercising that freedom may be irresponsible. In the case discussed here, the other members of the audience who DID want to hear what the two soldiers had to say had a social responsibility to beat the living piss out of the heckler. Rudeness should ALWAYS be met with violence. That's the only way we're ever going to end it.
  • Steve 2012/03/26 20:28:56
    Yes
    Steve
    I think its okay that its illegal to disrupt someone else freedom of speech
  • Rich Matarese 2012/03/26 20:22:46 (edited)
    Yes
    Rich Matarese
    But ONLY as long as it's done in a private forum.

    Any time the venue (and funding) has anything to do with taxpayers getting mulcted, it's a government activity, and no officer of civil government has any lawful power to infringe upon the private citizen's right freely to speak, assemble, and petition for redress of grievances.

    This U.C. Davis forum was held on property owned and operated by the government of the State of California, so the heckler in question had a perfect right - as a private citizen - to speak his own piece.

    What he did not have was any lawful right to prevent others from speaking.

    Indeed, it's something of a comment upon the dedication of Americans to social comity and good civil order that this guy didn't leave the venue feet-first.

    In the words of the late SF writer Keith Laumer:

    "I is a great believer in peaceful settlements. [...] Ain't nobody as peaceful as a dead trouble-maker."
  • Doctor Rich Ma... 2012/03/26 21:29:32
    Doctor
    WOOT FREE SPEECH! What privately , are you crazy it's like not having free speech at all! YOU CAN DO THIS BUT NOT IF BLA BLA BLA! D:< I'm sorry to come off wrong but it is Free after all and they are not FORCED to listen they can just ignore him! -_-
  • Seonag 2012/03/26 20:21:10
    No
    Seonag
    It's rude! Unfortunately it is accepted in most liberal universities to be rude when someone is giving a speech or talk.
  • Dirrty English 2012/03/26 20:20:49
    No
    Dirrty English
    Personal freedoms and basic rights cease to be a basic right the moment it infringes upon the rights and freedoms of another. For example, you have the right to bear arms... you do not have the right to unjustly end another's life, liberty or health with that fire arm. You have the rightvto freedom of religion... you do not have the right to use religion to take away another's freedom of religion or any other freedom. Why is fee speech different? I submit to you that it is not and in fact should be help strike fly to the same standard. All the so called basically human rights in the bill of rights should be. No one single right should infringe upon another's rights ever. But that is just my humble opinion.
  • boneman1 2012/03/26 20:03:59
    No
    boneman1
    +1
    Security should have told the heckler to sit down and be quiet. If he refused he should have been shown the door.
  • Rich Ma... boneman1 2012/03/26 20:24:35
    Rich Matarese
    Concussively, perhaps?
  • GiuliettaTomolei 2012/03/26 20:03:14
    No
    GiuliettaTomolei
    I can think of a few people that I'd like to do that to...white supremacists and Westboro Church people amongst them...but they still have the right to speak freely.
  • John Storz 2012/03/26 20:02:01
    Yes
    John Storz
    +2
    Well, at least most liberal's think so anyway
    nancy pelosi on free speech
  • POWERSHAKER 2012/03/26 20:01:33
    No
    POWERSHAKER
    +1
    Everyone has a right to free speech. But, when you interrupt someone, it's just plain rude. Some people are really stupid.
  • angie45 2012/03/26 20:01:08
    No
    angie45
    no...it wouldn't be fair
  • addie 2012/03/26 19:47:16
    No
    addie
    I have always thought that there should be a class on the Constitution in school, just the way they have math and history. If they did this kid would have been embarrassed to say he was excersizing free speech.
  • James 2012/03/26 19:40:21
    No
    James
    Even if you don't agree with what they have to say, they still have the right to say it.
  • jrwooton1962 2012/03/26 19:39:01
    No
    jrwooton1962
    +1
    Sorry, but I think that is just another form of harassment. And the first amendment allows for all persons to have free speech. Period
  • Christo... jrwooto... 2012/03/26 19:59:54
    Christopher Brady
    Even if it's hate speech.
  • sherie 2012/03/26 19:37:11
    No
    sherie
    +1
    No....our rights come with responsibility and are limited from infringing on other peoples rights.That heckler should have been removed.

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