Is it finally time to turn 50 States into 50 Countries??
Space Invader
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The time has come for all 50 states to become sovereign countries as in the new Russia; as the breakaway states have become countries of their own?
Each state would have their own sovereign Constitution; Own President and own borders...and have a centralized board like the EU to monitor the new countries
No more all encompassing corrupt government to rule over the states; no more corruption of taxpayers monies..
Set up a retirement and health system for the 50 individual countries; and have each "country" to have their own economies.
50 small Presidents; over 1 corrupt system.
I think it's time....
Each state would have their own sovereign Constitution; Own President and own borders...and have a centralized board like the EU to monitor the new countries
No more all encompassing corrupt government to rule over the states; no more corruption of taxpayers monies..
Set up a retirement and health system for the 50 individual countries; and have each "country" to have their own economies.
50 small Presidents; over 1 corrupt system.
I think it's time....
Bark
B. Any type of Cessession would constitute anyone imposing martial law who could, including a Dictator in the former American Armed Forces with enough charisma. Hello Fascism!
C. Economic Collapse far outweighs the financial do over that Separating allows. Even the narrow lens by which you are viewing this as a benefit economically, is not without fault.
D. Even if everyone were civilized about it, unlike the last violent break. We would be vulture food for powerful nations like Russia and China, who already are buying land here from coming in and making us the new Middle East/3rd World from the early to mid 20th Century and adding this once great land to their Empire.
Instead of Separation, I would advise us politically, and economically, to go back to policy from the beginning of our Country that lasted well through the turn of the 20th Century. To be truly radical--to go back to what works. No Central Bank. A system of checks and balances between state and federal as well as between the Branches of State and Federal that do not give too much power to the Federal...
B. Any type of Cessession would constitute anyone imposing martial law who could, including a Dictator in the former American Armed Forces with enough charisma. Hello Fascism!
C. Economic Collapse far outweighs the financial do over that Separating allows. Even the narrow lens by which you are viewing this as a benefit economically, is not without fault.
D. Even if everyone were civilized about it, unlike the last violent break. We would be vulture food for powerful nations like Russia and China, who already are buying land here from coming in and making us the new Middle East/3rd World from the early to mid 20th Century and adding this once great land to their Empire.
Instead of Separation, I would advise us politically, and economically, to go back to policy from the beginning of our Country that lasted well through the turn of the 20th Century. To be truly radical--to go back to what works. No Central Bank. A system of checks and balances between state and federal as well as between the Branches of State and Federal that do not give too much power to the Federal Government or to one branch of federal/state government. Put the debt where the debt belongs, on the Federal Reserve Private Central Bank and their 20 Private Owners(G20). Separate the Government from the Cancer and bankrupt the Cancer. Finally, to truly go back to the principles of the Constitution and only interpret it from that perspective instead of allowing liberal and progressive interpretations that often make the very words of the Document Null and Void.
My own pet theory is that major cities should become their own States, the sooner the better. The reason is that the urban culture and its politics are typically so different than flyover country in the same State.
Also lower Illinois wants to split away from Chicago control
Especially as some our now wondering if the solution to the crises mighr be a Federated States of Europe (which the UK would refuse to join).
Ultimately I suspect that a solution to the global financial crisis would have to be found first...
How would sir like to settlie the check ? ;)
All 50 State secede and then re-form a New Federal Government. Re-establish the Constitution and then form a new government. Washington DC would not be allowed and would remain as the existing United States. They would be responsible for all that debt and would be stuck with the Federal reserve, the IRS, NAFTA etc. The New government would take over the military. All treaties, laws etc would need to be written from scratch. The New Capitol would be in Kansas City. All existing Federal Lands would revert to the respective State.
Now some states tinker with nullification, a very few bring up secession, and meanwhile the crap just gets deeper and deeper.
Somehow something's gotta give! My thoughts on ReStart here:
http://no-ruler.net/new-const...
That's not intended to be complete, but simply to get your minds back to work.
Better control over monies and the books.
Each new country with open books; where all people would be provided a chance to make it...no more China trash; no more foreign trash; with guarded borders, and no illegal aliens....a passport to enter each country; with "gentleman's rules" concerning import-export of good between the 50 countries....where all would have equal opportunity to prosper in the Continent-The New America
Oh yes; two simple rules....drug dealers are executed; and no mercy for sex offenses;especially against children......
No more "Robed Idiots" to define what is and isn't proper for the 50 states....
The time has come..at 18; mandatory service in the "Country's" military....
It is time...
No more Federal Reserve. all taxes for the Countries are taken out for purchases, and wages at the time received.
No more Welfare for the lazy bums; they will either have gainful employment or starve. the disabled; that "truly" are disabled; will be monitored and taken care of as before..with a yearly check-up to decide disability status for the coming year..
The time is now.....
No unions to divide the countries; no more Mob corr...
Better control over monies and the books.
Each new country with open books; where all people would be provided a chance to make it...no more China trash; no more foreign trash; with guarded borders, and no illegal aliens....a passport to enter each country; with "gentleman's rules" concerning import-export of good between the 50 countries....where all would have equal opportunity to prosper in the Continent-The New America
Oh yes; two simple rules....drug dealers are executed; and no mercy for sex offenses;especially against children......
No more "Robed Idiots" to define what is and isn't proper for the 50 states....
The time has come..at 18; mandatory service in the "Country's" military....
It is time...
No more Federal Reserve. all taxes for the Countries are taken out for purchases, and wages at the time received.
No more Welfare for the lazy bums; they will either have gainful employment or starve. the disabled; that "truly" are disabled; will be monitored and taken care of as before..with a yearly check-up to decide disability status for the coming year..
The time is now.....
No unions to divide the countries; no more Mob corruption; as the citizenry will be on active or inactive service(like Israel); corruption found would be stopped...because the smaller the population per country; the easier it is to monitor said people(s)..
Yes; I do believe it is time....
This would wipe out most of the south. You would have to run and hide from your fellow TN that want to steal your TN money.
The thing to really watch out for, tho, is our new "Federal States" adopting the same stupidity and Force as FedGov has already thrust upon America.
Forgetting for a moment that cost of goods will skyrocket as shipping between 'countries' will include more beuracracy and cost. Not to mention that 50 independent small militaries will never be nearly as strong as the current United States military.
And all of your suggestions imply the assumption that all 40 'countries' will behave exactly alike. If that were the case we could go to one nation without states now.
Maybe, maybe one state goes to draconian mandated military service AND a national sales tax AND Union busting measures. But do you really think a nation of California or New York does that? No.
At the end of the day the reason to stay as a unique nation of 50 unified states is simple on the ground floor - security. Again, our current national military is stronger than the potential 50 independent armies would be. We'd certainly hand China the world leader ball, and if they were provoked into invading (and defaulting on our current debt to them by disbanding America may be a factor) establishing a beachhead in California or Oregon would be so much easier and that makes it easier to move into stronger 'countries' once you're knocking on a border.
This is an absurd concept.
I get the implication, that having a military lends politicians to use it more often than not. I don't agree.