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Is it fair game to discuss a candidate's religious beliefs?

Mopeder ~ Proud American 2012/05/19 00:46:49
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  • Pat 2012/05/19 00:48:57 (edited)
    No
    Pat
    +10
    Religion shouldn't enter into the presidential race. I think even the Constitution says that religion will not enter into elections. I'll have to check it but I think there is a phrase that is designed to keep it out of elections.
    Found it:
    "The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the Members of the several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial Officers, both of the United States and of the several States, shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States."

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  • Giantfan 2012/05/19 19:33:12
    Yes
    Giantfan
    +2
    Yes but why should it matter. Unles one is going to run the country as a church is run who cares what religion a person is. That's how I feel.
  • KarenInKenoshaWisconsin 2012/05/19 18:45:19
    No
    KarenInKenoshaWisconsin
    +1
    Yes and no, usually no. It's okay for them to mention it in contexts up to the point that it becomes a religious litmus test of sorts and up to the point that people think we're electing a Pastor-in-Chief.

    President Kennedy on Issues, Separation of Church and State: http://youtu.be/x2Jr03ADQmk
  • DavidK 2012/05/19 17:41:32
    Yes
    DavidK
    Obama certainly denies his true beliefs.........
  • Giantfan DavidK 2012/05/19 19:33:55
    Giantfan
    +1
    And what are they.....
  • JEFF DavidK 2012/05/21 03:14:09
    JEFF
    AND WHAT BELIEF WOULD THAT BE?
  • DavidK JEFF 2012/05/21 04:30:26
    DavidK
    It figures you'd want me to tell you.........PAY ATTENTION AND YOU WOULDN'T HAVE TO ASK!
  • JEFF DavidK 2012/05/26 02:47:49
    JEFF
    LET'S PRETEND I JUST CAME OUT OF A COMA. PLEASE TELL ME. WHAT BELIEF WOULD THAT BE? AND PLEASE LET'S NOT ANSWER WITH A STUPID COMMENT REFERRING TO A COMA.
  • DavidK JEFF 2012/05/26 14:00:03
    DavidK
    come out of your coma first and we'll talk...........
  • petean05 2012/05/19 17:27:32
    Yes
    petean05
    +2
    I think it is more than fair if they let their religious beliefs affect their policy decisions. Those decisions affect all of us, and so their religious beliefs do as well. I would like to be informed about things that affect me.
  • jcadla 2012/05/19 17:19:31
    Yes
    jcadla
    +1
    Yes it is fair. Anyone who is devout will, to some degree, be influenced by his religious beliefs. Most religions espouse love, compassion and forgiveness. Religions such as Christianity and Mormonism do not condone or encourage violence or murder so there should be no bad affect on a leader from those religions.
    On the other hand, Islam actually does encourage killing of innocents in some cases. Shariah law is an example of a foul, cruel law of Islam. Fathers and Mothers, even children are encouraged to kill family members who 'dis-honor' their family. Death by stoning is common with Muslims against adulterous women and men,-mainly women. There have been incidences of fathers killing their own precious teenage daughters in the
    presence of and with the approval of other family members for trying to be like their school mates,-dressing in blue jeans, wearing makeup and things of which most of us consider normal. Look it up on the net. Muslims are cold blooded killers. They are instructed to be by their holy book, the Koran, and by their law of Shariah. Dinner Table 5:51 forbids them from befriending Christians and Jews. Muslims are slaves of Islam, period.
  • Wolf97 jcadla 2012/05/20 04:10:43
    Wolf97
    I have Muslim friends....
  • DavidK Wolf97 2012/05/26 14:03:16
    DavidK
    you just can't go to their subsidized apartments. Muslims don't coexist with non-Muslims.
  • Wolf97 DavidK 2012/05/29 02:04:03
    Wolf97
    Turkey. Muslim country. Fights side by side with American and European forces against Muslim terrorists. Wants to join the EU. A Turkish soldier saved my best friends "non-believing" ass during a fire fight. I have been to Turkey and have many good friends there. They were very tolerant of me in everyway. They cant coexist with non-Muslims?
  • DavidK Wolf97 2012/05/29 03:56:52
    DavidK
    not here in America.
  • DavidK Wolf97 2012/05/29 04:01:23
    DavidK
    Message fron the United States Marines:

    This should open the eyes of those who think the Muslim religion is a
    "peaceful religion", and the current occupant of the oval office is
    definitely a Muslim. If you don't believe this, you are ignoring his own
    statements and also comments made in "his" books.

    CAN MUSLIMS BE GOOD AMERICANS?
    This is very interesting and we all need to read it from start to
    finish. And send it on to everyone. Maybe this is why our American Muslims
    are so quiet and not speaking out about any atrocities.
    Can a good Muslim be a good American?
    This question was forwarded to a friend who worked in Saudi Arabia for
    20 years. The following is his reply:

    Theologically - no.. Because his allegiance is to Allah, The moon god
    of
    Arabia .
    Religiously - no... Because no other religion is accepted by His Allah
    except Islam. (Quran, 2:256)(Koran)

    Scripturally - no... Because his allegiance is to the five Pillars of
    Islam and the Quran.

    Geographically - no.. Because his allegiance is to Mecca , to which he
    turns in prayer five times a day.
    Socially - no... Because his allegiance to Islam forbids him to make
    friends with Christians or Jews.
    Politically - no.... Because he must submit to the mullahs (spiritual
    leaders), who teach annihilation of Israel and destruction of America ,
    the
    great Satan.

    Do...




















    Message fron the United States Marines:

    This should open the eyes of those who think the Muslim religion is a
    "peaceful religion", and the current occupant of the oval office is
    definitely a Muslim. If you don't believe this, you are ignoring his own
    statements and also comments made in "his" books.

    CAN MUSLIMS BE GOOD AMERICANS?
    This is very interesting and we all need to read it from start to
    finish. And send it on to everyone. Maybe this is why our American Muslims
    are so quiet and not speaking out about any atrocities.
    Can a good Muslim be a good American?
    This question was forwarded to a friend who worked in Saudi Arabia for
    20 years. The following is his reply:

    Theologically - no.. Because his allegiance is to Allah, The moon god
    of
    Arabia .
    Religiously - no... Because no other religion is accepted by His Allah
    except Islam. (Quran, 2:256)(Koran)

    Scripturally - no... Because his allegiance is to the five Pillars of
    Islam and the Quran.

    Geographically - no.. Because his allegiance is to Mecca , to which he
    turns in prayer five times a day.
    Socially - no... Because his allegiance to Islam forbids him to make
    friends with Christians or Jews.
    Politically - no.... Because he must submit to the mullahs (spiritual
    leaders), who teach annihilation of Israel and destruction of America ,
    the
    great Satan.

    Domestically - no... Because he is instructed to marry four Women and
    beat and scourge his wife when she disobeys him. (Quran 4:3Intellectually - no.. Because he cannot accept the American
    Constitution
    since it is based on Biblical principles and he believes the Bible to be
    corrupt.

    Philosophically - no... Because Islam, Muhammad, and the Quran does not
    allow freedom of religion and expression. Democracy and Islam cannot
    co-exist. Every Muslim government is either dictatorial or autocratic.

    Spiritually - no... Because when we declare 'one nation under God,' The
    Christian's God is loving and kind, while Allah is NEVER referred to as
    Heavenly father, nor is he ever called love in the Quran's 99 excellent
    names. Therefore, after much study and deliberation... Perhaps we should be
    very suspicious of ALL MUSLIMS in this country. - - - They obviously
    cannot be both 'good' Muslims and 'good' Americans. Call it what you wish it's
    still the truth.. You had better believe it. The more who understand this,
    the better it will be for our country and our future.
    The religious war is bigger than we know or understand!

    Footnote: The Muslims have said they will destroy us from within.
    SO FREEDOM IS NOT FREE.
    (more)
  • Wolf97 DavidK 2012/05/30 02:52:30
    Wolf97
    The United States Marine Corp. has never spoken out against Obama. I see you point but I also feel that any religion, taken literally, can be used for violance. Not just Muslims. Politically motivated terrorists hijacked Islam.
  • DavidK Wolf97 2012/05/30 04:37:19
    DavidK
    read the Koran. Study Sharia law.I have. NO other religion come close to the Muslim religion or culture.

    vxcxcvxcv
  • Wolf97 DavidK 2012/05/30 15:15:21
    Wolf97
    So every other religion can get along execpt Muslims? During the crusades, Muslims and Jews fought side-by-side to defend Jerusalem against the invading Franks.
    My point being, they did it once. They can do it again. They can work together. I am just going to state for the record that I think all religions are ridiculous. And Christianity is easily one of the worst.
  • DavidK Wolf97 2012/05/30 15:19:25 (edited)
    DavidK
    The "crusades" days are long over! Besides,

    rwrwerw
  • Wolf97 DavidK 2012/05/30 23:02:19
    Wolf97
    My reasoning for bringing up the crusades was that it proved you wrong. And if you doubt what I said. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... Check and mate good sir.
  • fudge35 2012/05/19 17:08:53
    Yes
    fudge35
    +3
    Generally I would say no. Since the right wing has blabbered on for the last 3 and a half years about Obama being a Muslim or a Christian, then that makes Romney's Mormonism fair game.
  • DavidK fudge35 2012/05/19 17:48:39
    DavidK
    Mormonism coexists with Christianity. Show me a muslim in America that walks the walk and talks the talk like a true American and I'll show you 1'000 that don't! Almost all Muslims here dress in burkas, leech off the Government, receive food stamps, healthcare and housing. Not to mention they don't want to learn English or become citizens. No wonder our Country is going broke!!!! I wish they would quit taking over at Starbucks too.
  • Giantfan DavidK 2012/05/19 19:36:24 (edited)
    Giantfan
    +2
    Kareem Abdul-Jabbar and Mohammad Ali.
    I'll wait for you to list the 2,000 who don't.
  • DavidK Giantfan 2012/05/20 05:30:25
    DavidK
    you left out Shaq, fool! Besides, they weren't raised Muslim. Those idiot libtards don't read the Koran or abide by sharia law either. Nice try though.
  • Giantfan DavidK 2012/05/20 15:20:29
    Giantfan
    +1
    They follow true Islam before it was radically perverted. They don't show the hate you do as a "good loving Christian". It's no wonder the most single used comment from Jesus was "you hypocrites".
    So you couldn't follow up on your pathetic comment of 1,000 who don't for everyone who does. I could name more so get your list ready. How foolish you sounded.
  • DavidK Giantfan 2012/05/20 15:25:48
  • Giantfan DavidK 2012/05/20 23:03:31
    Giantfan
    +1
    IOW Davie you're all talk but you can't walk the walk. Typical big mouthed con.
  • DavidK Giantfan 2012/05/21 04:31:37
    DavidK
    "liberal perverted"....... yea, thats the ticket!
  • Giantfan DavidK 2012/05/21 19:54:58
    Giantfan
    +1
    I knew you were all mouth and no substance.
  • DavidK Giantfan 2012/05/22 03:33:42
    DavidK
    smart enough to see Obama and you libtards are trying your damnedest to destroy our Country........
  • Giantfan DavidK 2012/05/22 14:34:21
    Giantfan
    +1
    So smart all you have is BS. You shut right up when asked to back up your BS.
  • DavidK Giantfan 2012/05/22 15:40:03
    DavidK
    I can't show proof to a libtard because you refuse open your eyes. Grow up you idiot. Tell me something Obama has done to help the economy and create jobs, then we'll talk.
  • Giantfan DavidK 2012/05/22 16:00:40
    Giantfan
    +1
    You're a waste of breath. All you do is name call like typical cons when they have nothing to debate with. Your boys Bush and Cheney averaged 12,000 jobs created a month (private sector jobs) for 8 years. Wonderful wasn't it. You also left with an economy crashing. The stock market crashing and peoples 401K's tanking and all those things have reversed now but you would rather go back to those times. It doesn't show much intellectual aptitude on your part.
  • DavidK Giantfan 2012/05/23 02:18:14
    DavidK
    show us all anything that shows "those things have reversed". Didn't think you could. CASE CLOSED!
  • Giantfan DavidK 2012/05/23 02:33:59
  • DavidK Giantfan 2012/05/23 03:19:45
    DavidK
    Well? I'm glad to answer anything as soon as you answer mine. Do you have the balls to answer? Or are you going to flop again...... NOW ANSWER!!!!!
    Show us all anything that shows "those things have reversed" LAST CHANCE YOU FRAUD!
  • Giantfan DavidK 2012/05/23 20:52:59
    Giantfan
    +1
    How can I show what was reversed if you won't say what was in bad shape the day Bush left office, Einstein.
  • DavidK Giantfan 2012/05/23 23:15:31
    DavidK
    Didn't think you could answer it, now I'm going to block you for being so dumb. I've wasted enough time with your ignorance already.
  • Wolf97 DavidK 2012/05/30 02:54:10 (edited)
    Wolf97
    Looks like Giantfan beat you bud. Whoever blocks first is the loser of the argument.
  • JEFF DavidK 2012/05/21 03:18:20
    JEFF
    +1
    WHO ARE YOU. ARCIE BUNKER? STIFFEL YOUR ASS.

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