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Is it correct for the U.S.Department of Justice to tell Florida election officials to stop its non-citizen voter purge?

Steverno~POTL~PWCM~JLA 2012/06/01 14:08:43
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The Justice Department told Florida election officials that they must stop their non-citizen voters purge. Florida argues it is not violating any law.

The Justice Department ordered Florida’s elections division to halt a systematic effort to find and purge the state’s voter rolls of noncitizen voters.

Florida’s effort appears to violate both the 1965 Voting Rights Act, which protects minorities, and the 1993 National Voter Registration Act – which governs voter purges – T. Christian Herren Jr., the Justice Department’s lead civil rights lawyer, wrote in a detailed two-page letter sent late Thursday night.

State officials said they were reviewing the letter. But they indicated they might fight DOJ over its interpretation of federal law and expressed frustration that President Barack Obama’s administration has stonewalled the state’s noncitizen voter hunt for nine months.

“We are firmly committed to doing the right thing and preventing ineligible voters from being able to cast a ballot,” said Chris Cate, spokesman for Secretary of State Ken Detzner, who was ordered by Gov. Rick Scott to conduct the search for potentially ineligible voters.

DOJ’s written demand came hours after the agency refused to comment on the matter to The Miami Herald. It also followed a federal court ruling Thursday that struck down a Republican voter-registration law that a judge found too onerous.

So far, Florida has flagged 2,700 potential noncitizen voters and sent the list to county elections supervisors, who have found the data and methodology to be flawed and problematic. The list of potential noncitizen voters – many of whom have turned out to be lawful citizens and voters – disproportionately hits minorities, especially Hispanics.

About 58 percent of those flagged as potential noncitizens are Hispanics, Florida’s largest ethnic immigrant population, a Miami Herald analysis found. Hispanics make up 13 percent of the overall 11.3 million active registered voters.

Independent voters and Democrats are the most likely to face being purged from the rolls. Republicans and non-Hispanic whites are the least likely.

Under the Voting Rights Act, Florida needs federal approval before it makes changes to voting because five Florida counties – Monroe, Hillsborough, Collier, Hardee and Hendry – had minority-voting troubles decades ago

"Our records do not reflect that these changes affecting voting have been submitted to the United States District Court for the District of Columbia for judicial review or to the Attorney General for administrative review as required by Section 5 of the Voting Rights Act," Herren wrote.

"Accordingly, it is necessary that they either be brought before that court or submitted to the Attorney General for a determination that they neither have the purpose nor will have the effect of discriminating on account of race, color, or membership in a language minority group under Section 5."

He gave the state until next Wednesday to inform the Justice Department of its planned course of action.

“Specifically, please advise whether the State intends to cease the practice discussed above, so that the Department can determine what further action, if any, is necessary,” Herren wrote.

Herren also said that the National Voter Registration Act bans Florida’s effort because it says “a State shall complete, not later than 90 days prior to the date of a primary or general election for Federal office, any program the purpose of which is to systematically remove the names of ineligible voters from the official lists of eligible voters.”

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From: The Miami Herald

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  • Theresa 2012/06/01 14:13:39
    Florida election officials need to fight the DOJ because....
    Theresa
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    The DOJ has no jurisdiction in how any State conducts its election process! This is a totally 10th amendment situation! State of Florida Ignore them and have your sheriffs arrest them if they try to interfere!

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  • electracon 2012/06/01 21:13:35
    Florida election officials need to fight the DOJ because....
    electracon
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    Screw the DOIJ (I=in)
  • Ozzyboy 2012/06/01 21:02:35
    Florida election officials need to fight the DOJ because....
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    Non citizens shouldn't be protected by the voting laws of this country, no matter what color they are. Since when are non citizens allowed to vote in these elections. Boston may be ok with that as a city but not as a nation. If non citizens are allowed to skew our elections what is the point of being an American citizen? All we apparently are good for is to pay for all these non citizens.
  • Lanikai Ozzyboy 2012/06/02 16:18:58
    Lanikai
    +3
    And that is the basis of this stoppage. ILLEGAL immigrants who are registered to vote, and with over 180,000 found so far, illegally registered-they could EASILY affect the outcome.
  • jool 2012/06/01 21:01:39
    Florida election officials need to fight the DOJ because....
    jool
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    community organizer at work!
  • Dan ☮ R P ☮ 2012 ☮ 2012/06/01 20:59:32 (edited)
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    I have mixed feelings here. While purging people that are illegally registered to vote is a good things, I'm hearing evidence that their purge may be harming US citizens.

    http://www.nbcmiami.com/news/...

    Thisi s just something that needs to be looked into.


    Also, I'd ignore the DoJ. Voting is a state governed issue. Not federal. The federal government needs to get the hell out unless they are going to press charges for poll taxes or something the constitution authorized;
  • God ble... Dan ☮ R... 2012/06/02 00:23:31 (edited)
    God bless American freedom
    +2
    we need to protect the entire nation from this sort of ridiculous lawless stupidty perpetrated on the entire US LEGAL citizenry by our own government employees ( who frequently are NOT even Amercan citizens!!! ) .
  • Lanikai 2012/06/01 20:59:18
    Florida election officials need to fight the DOJ because....
    Lanikai
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    Voter roles are a STATE matter to begin with.

    Illegal voters can affect the outcome of an election.

    If the DOJ doesn't want illegals off the roles, they must need them to win.

    Therefore, obama must WANT the illegals to vote.

    It is obamas fault. HE needs to tell Holder to STFU.
  • God ble... Lanikai 2012/06/02 00:24:13
    God bless American freedom
    +1
    he may have told Holder to tell Florida to disobey the law eh?
  • Lanikai God ble... 2012/06/02 16:17:51 (edited)
    Lanikai
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    Sounds like he did. STATES have the control over voter rolls, but I guess obie thinks he is king. Even CNN was acting like this was weird,.
  • Always Right 2012/06/01 20:48:26
    Florida election officials need to fight the DOJ because....
    Always Right
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    It's a state government right, per the US Constitution, article 1, section 4!
  • aherbert 2012/06/01 20:42:23
    The Justice Dept. actions are correct because....
    aherbert
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    This sounds like another “hanging Chad” incident in Florida. This conservative state must be watched else it will be another Dubya and Gore situation … that so called list have American citizens on it in which they want to purge … Oh and the majority of the people on the list is minority and primary democrat voters. The crocked GOP will do anything to steal an election … I am glad the DOJ is haltering their efforts … I hope the DOJ will look into the other Southern states that are trying to disenfranchise American voters.
  • mich52 2012/06/01 20:31:29
  • Lanikai mich52 2012/06/01 21:02:42
    Lanikai
    +3
    They found 182,000 illegally registered voters, including MANY actual ILLEGALS.

    Now, why would the DOJ want illegals to stay on the voter roles???????
  • ScottyG... Lanikai 2012/06/01 21:44:57
    ScottyG - Faqueue
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    There is only one right answer to your question. Holder = FRAUD!
  • mich52 Lanikai 2012/06/01 21:51:16
  • CuresCancer 2012/06/01 20:16:13
    Florida election officials need to fight the DOJ because....
    CuresCancer
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    Holder would probably prefer that the illegals be given weapons.
  • God ble... CuresCa... 2012/06/02 00:25:18 (edited)
    God bless American freedom
    +2
    lol true

    Source: current Holder history
  • Hawkeye 2012/06/01 20:04:50
    Florida election officials need to fight the DOJ because....
    Hawkeye
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    The DOJ is just worried that the close scrutiny of the Voter Fraud problem will reveal a REAL problem that the Democrats have been taking advantage of for years..
  • God ble... Hawkeye 2012/06/03 01:36:09 (edited)
    God bless American freedom
    +1
    but this IS a BI-partisan problem eh?
  • wildcat 2012/06/01 20:04:32
    The Justice Dept. actions are correct because....
    wildcat
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    It was a judge that knows the law that said Florida needed to stop purging the voter rolls. It is a violation of the Voting Rights Laws.
  • Hawkeye wildcat 2012/06/01 20:06:49
    Hawkeye
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    If THAT were the case then it wouldn't BE an order from the DOJ.. It would be a COURT Order.. ANd THEN it would just go to the Supreme Court..
  • dallas Hawkeye 2012/06/01 20:28:49
  • Hawkeye dallas 2012/06/01 20:59:56
    Hawkeye
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    Don't worry.. Hoilder can shove it up his Backside and he'll HAVE to before FLorida takes UNCONSTITUTIONAL Orders from him..

    Let HIM take it to court like he did with all the other states.. Doesn't matter though.. He'll be OUT of there and so will his boss long before it ever goes before a Judge..
  • dallas Hawkeye 2012/06/01 21:04:16
  • Hawkeye dallas 2012/06/01 22:44:31
    Hawkeye
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    Better still.. Don't LET them vote Illegally and you don't HAVE to go to court..

    I say AGAIN.. The State does NOT have to prove that they are ILLEGAL unless they've already committed the offense and you're going to prosecute them..

    The Citizen is obligated to PROVE that they are citizens BEFORE they are allowed to vote.. That IS the LAW..
  • dallas Hawkeye 2012/06/02 01:36:29
  • Hawkeye dallas 2012/06/02 11:19:28
    Hawkeye
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    YOU have this uncanny tendency to take what people say and twist it around to say something TOTALLY Alien to what was actually said..

    WHO said that there was NO voter fraud before Obama??

    We ALL know about the magical trunkloads of DEMOCRAT votes that mysteriously appeared in South Florida during the elections of 2000.. You remember.. the ones which turned out to be bogus and weren't counted because they included multiple votes,, otes by Illegals and votes by DEAD people and cartoon characters..

    it was ONE of the 6 Main Lawsuits that the Democrats LOST..

    And HOW about the election in Minnisota where Coleman actually WON the election and THEN had it stolen by Al Franken using the very SAME tactics,, trunkloads of magically apperaing DEMOCRAT votes,, that didn't work in FLorida.. No.. No.. The Democrats have been doing this for DECADES..
  • dallas Hawkeye 2012/06/02 13:05:51 (edited)
  • Hawkeye dallas 2012/06/03 09:49:03
    Hawkeye
    +1
    AGAIN you twist reality and HISTORY to suit your agenda..

    There were SIX reconts in Florida before the case ( and a number of UNOFFICIAL ones after the case was settled and Bush WON every single one of them ) that went to the Supreme Court and the Court did NOT say that there was NO reason to perform another one..

    The Democrats demanded that there be another recount and that it be restricted to heavilly Democrat districts only.. CLEARLY Unconstitutional.. The FLorida SUpreme COurt violated not ONLY the U.S. Constitution by approving this but also the Florida Constitution..

    I'll tell you what.. JUST for the sake or argument,, I'll accept that Republican cheat as much as Democrats as you say.. Let's just say that it's ONLY Republicans that cheat.. Okay.. I'll go with that..

    NOW I want Voter ID verification to keep the Republicans from getting away with cheating..

    Happy??
  • dallas Hawkeye 2012/06/04 00:46:16
  • Hawkeye dallas 2012/06/04 08:56:19
    Hawkeye
    +1
    Real Americans would support it.. I'll TELL you something that HISTORY has taught us... IF the voter ID verification process revealed Republican Fraud and Democrat suppression the Republican MEMEBERSHIP would STILL want and support voter verification.. If the REVERSE were tre case the Democrats would SUE to get Voter ID verification tossed out like they did in 2000...
  • dallas Hawkeye 2012/06/04 12:02:01
  • Hawkeye dallas 2012/06/04 12:54:06
    Hawkeye
    +1
    You can name whoever you want with your RACIST accusations.. ALL that you accomplish is to reveal what a LIAR you are..
  • dallas Hawkeye 2012/06/05 17:02:43
  • Hawkeye dallas 2012/06/05 22:31:59
    Hawkeye
    +1
    You wouldn't know a fact if it came up and smack you right in the snoot..
  • dallas Hawkeye 2012/06/19 04:12:37
  • kudabux 2012/06/01 19:58:10
    The Justice Dept. actions are correct because....
    kudabux
    +4
    Just one question: Why did Florida wait so long to do this, so close to the election, and impose a time limit for a response? Why wasn't this done a year ago, that would give the voters plenty of time to come up with a BC. Because it is a concerted effort by Florida to knock legitimate voters off the rolls.
  • Hawkeye kudabux 2012/06/01 20:10:01
    Hawkeye
    +4
    Florida has been trying to do this for years but it has always been the "other side" who blocks or otherwise postpones it.. What POSSIBLE legitimate reason can there BE for being against Voter verification except that those who ARE want Voter Fraud to continue??
  • dallas Hawkeye 2012/06/01 20:32:02
  • Hawkeye dallas 2012/06/01 21:01:45
    Hawkeye
    +2
    It's not UP to FLorida to prove that they can't vote.. It's up to the individual to prove that they CAN.. Geez,, WHERE did you graduate High School from?? Romper Room???

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