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Is It A Sin To Kill On The Battlefield?

Aysohmay June 07, 2009 00:48:07

Thou shalt not kill, right? According to the 10 commandments, this is a fundamental, central doctrine for morality. Some people however think this doesn't apply whenever you're fighting for your country. One person has went to far as to say God thinks this is right. What do you think? Does the fact that you're killing during a war negate the act as a sin, or are you still sinning when you do so?
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  • +3 raves Kino June 10, 2009 19:54:47
    Kino

    None of the above

    If you take God and religion out of the equation it's just men and women performing their duty to their nation.
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  • Sun Rea (an LGBT advocate) August 04, 2009 01:14:14
    Sun Rea (an LGBT advocate)

    No, it is not a sin

    It is in the bible, that its ok to kill when defending ones country.
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    JohntheChristian July 21, 2009 18:25:57
    JohntheChristian

    No, it is not a sin

    It is a tragic necessity, borne from the sinfulness of man.
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    Attila June 11, 2009 04:00:08
    Attila

    None of the above

    you have to take it back to Hebrew and Greek. In translation much is lost.

    the word is Murder. though you have to kill to commit Murder, killing doesn't define what is murder.

    Killing takes on many forms. You have to kill a fish, steer, etc before you eat of its flesh. You kill a plant when you harvest it.

    It comes down to why you kill someone. And there is a sinful way to kill even an animal.

    I suppose even in war one could kill in a manor that is a murder. Depends on the reasoning behind it. Are you defending your nation and its people or are you out for self gratification and some sort of joy of killing another human? is it an act of vengeance, spite, hate, etc.? The things that define what is murder and what isn't.

    One should always defend their community, family, friends and even their own self and property. that is a given.

    And you have to follow your own convictions. Not everyone is cut out to be a soldier. Christian or not.
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    Kino Attila June 11, 2009 04:09:01
    Kino
    Indeed. Well said Attila.
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    Attila Kino June 11, 2009 04:17:47
    Attila
    Thanks Kino.
  • ypd91 June 11, 2009 02:16:25
    ypd91

    Yes, it is still a sin

    but it is something that they need to learn to live with
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    moomoof "Jin Kazama!" June 11, 2009 00:09:16
    moomoof

    Yes, it is still a sin

    Yes

    no if and or buts it a sin and murder sorry people its fact
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    runningintriangles June 10, 2009 22:03:23
    runningintriangles

    Yes, it is still a sin

    I hate calling it a sin.

    In any case, whatever you call it, murder is murder, and murder is always wrong.
  • Tsi-na June 10, 2009 20:19:06
    Tsi-na

    None of the above

    Not if yore killin' in the name of Jay-zus.
  • Aysohmay Tsi-na June 10, 2009 21:00:49
    Aysohmay
    Yeah, Jesus condones killing all right. Theres someone you want to let into your heart
  • Hyper Moose {In burritos I ... June 10, 2009 20:15:31
    Hyper Moose {In burritos I trust.} >:-)

    None of the above

    To me it isn't, I see it as them doing their job. I'm not a religious person though.
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    Terry J Vey June 10, 2009 19:58:08
    Terry J Vey

    Yes, it is still a sin

    To intentionaly take a life is a sin!All the excuses in the world do not change my mind.If some can take comfert in the excuses that are given and can feel at peace with themselfs for taken another life i wish them all the best. excuses world change mind comfert excuses feel peace themselfs life
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    Kino June 10, 2009 19:54:47
    Kino

    None of the above

    If you take God and religion out of the equation it's just men and women performing their duty to their nation.
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    Aysohmay Kino June 10, 2009 19:55:22
    Aysohmay
    Too bad too many people can't function without religion >.<
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    Kino Aysohmay June 10, 2009 19:58:56
    Kino
    Absolutely.
  • twothunders June 10, 2009 19:53:49
    twothunders

    No, it is not a sin

    No..you do what you have to
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    Aysohmay twothun... June 10, 2009 19:56:20
    Aysohmay
    If I have to steal food to eat, that would still be a sin because its STEALING (according to the 10 commandments everyone seems to think is true)
  • twothun... Aysohmay June 10, 2009 19:59:34
    twothunders
    I do not believe in the ten commandments so it makes no difference to me whether it is a sin or not.....you will do what you have to do to survive and live with the consequences
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    Aysohmay twothun... June 10, 2009 20:15:21
    Aysohmay
    Well, you know, this question is talking about sin you know...lolz
  • twothun... Aysohmay June 10, 2009 20:20:01
    twothunders
    yeah...thought it was an interesting question and up until you responded, I kept my answer short because I did not want to cause a religious arguement, but I still think that people do what they have to do...especially to protect the people they love and themselves...and that shouldn't be a sin....
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    the imposter June 10, 2009 19:51:44
    the imposter

    No, it is not a sin

    its your job to kill on the battlefield
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    Aysohmay the imp... June 10, 2009 19:58:40
    Aysohmay
    That doesn't make it any less of a sin. If you were part of a gang and your job was to take out a rival gang member to protect your turf, would that not still be killing and sinning?
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    the imp... Aysohmay June 10, 2009 20:10:11
    the imposter
    its a sin if you believe in god but if you dont then it is mans struggle with himself. a soldiers job is to kill
  • Sister Jean June 10, 2009 18:57:40
    Sister Jean

    No, it is not a sin

    but those with a problem can claim 'conscientious objector status' sin claim conscientious objector status
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    PHS June 08, 2009 20:19:25
    PHS

    No, it is not a sin

    To kill while defending your country is not murder so it is not a sin in the eyes of the Church and GOD.
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    Bourne June 08, 2009 14:13:58
    Bourne

    Yes, it is still a sin

    speaking from experience, yes it is a sin, yes you should pray for the life you have had to take, pray for further guidance and a steady hand. Prayer for a steady and righteous hand, prayer for the enemies of righteousness,
    prayer for their souls. prayer for forgiveness of sin.
    just make sure its safe to stop and pray, your prayers
    should not put anyone else our yourself at risk.
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    Kaldaddy1 June 07, 2009 15:22:26
    Kaldaddy1

    Yes, it is still a sin

    I'm fairly certain God doesn't pay much attention to boundaries you can't see from space...

  • oldsalt June 07, 2009 10:24:04
    oldsalt

    No, it is not a sin

    No
  • Michael June 07, 2009 04:33:34
    Michael

    No, it is not a sin

    Nope.
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    Robert June 07, 2009 04:21:14
    Robert

    No, it is not a sin

    Romans 13:1-7:
    1 Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God.
    2 Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation.
    3 For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to the evil. Wilt thou then not be afraid of the power? do that which is good, and thou shalt have praise of the same:
    4 For he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil.
    5 Wherefore ye must needs be subject, not only for wrath, but also for conscience sake.
    6 For for this cause pay ye tribute also: for they are God's ministers, attending continually upon this very thing.
    7 Render therefore to all their dues: tribute to whom tribute is due; custom to whom custom; fear to whom fear; honour to whom honour.

    Deuteronomy 20:1-4:
    1 When thou goest out to battle against thine enemies, and seest horses, and chariots, and a people more than thou, be not afraid of them: for the LORD thy God is with thee, which brought thee up out of the land of Egypt.
    2 And it shall be, when ye are come nigh unto the ba...




    Romans 13:1-7:
    1 Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God.
    2 Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation.
    3 For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to the evil. Wilt thou then not be afraid of the power? do that which is good, and thou shalt have praise of the same:
    4 For he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil.
    5 Wherefore ye must needs be subject, not only for wrath, but also for conscience sake.
    6 For for this cause pay ye tribute also: for they are God's ministers, attending continually upon this very thing.
    7 Render therefore to all their dues: tribute to whom tribute is due; custom to whom custom; fear to whom fear; honour to whom honour.

    Deuteronomy 20:1-4:
    1 When thou goest out to battle against thine enemies, and seest horses, and chariots, and a people more than thou, be not afraid of them: for the LORD thy God is with thee, which brought thee up out of the land of Egypt.
    2 And it shall be, when ye are come nigh unto the battle, that the priest shall approach and speak unto the people,
    3 And shall say unto them, Hear, O Israel, ye approach this day unto battle against your enemies: let not your hearts faint, fear not, and do not tremble, neither be ye terrified because of them;
    4 For the LORD your God is he that goeth with you, to fight for you against your enemies, to save you.

    1 Samuel 30:8:
    8 And David inquired at the LORD, saying, Shall I pursue after this troop? shall I overtake them? And he answered him, Pursue: for thou shalt surely overtake them, and without fail recover all.
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    rightside June 07, 2009 04:20:06
    rightside

    No, it is not a sin

    Read all about it. Its there in the Bible.
    War is different.
    God Bless our men and women in battle.
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    Philo-Publius June 07, 2009 01:58:32
    Philo-Publius

    None of the above

    I think "sin" is the wrong word, or CAN be the wrong word. If you kill and you know it's WRONG to kill, I think it generates a certain karma (very "bad" karma) and if you kill and DON'T fully inderstand it's wrong to kill (say you still eat meat) you're generating a whole other karma there too, presumably not as severe, but still some, and it will keep you on the loop and enforce that pennance upon you till you don't kill any more.

    A soldier is basically a robot. He does not think, only react. His sin, if there is one (again, depends on his frame of reference) lies, like an alcoholic, in the moments of more clear and conscious deliberation that occurred with himself BEFORE signing up for the military. Just like the alcoholic's sin does not occur when he kills someone while drunk behind the wheel, but when he was SOBER and deliberated the decision to take the first drink, knowing he was going to drive home.

    Now in the case of men from whatever country that are DRAFTED... their karma is certainly even less, although they're still just churnin' that loop of ignorance and death, and so they are attached to that reality. That is their karma. And for soldiers who enlisted to get a better position or become an officer before being drafted, or women or even men who took a military ...

    I think "sin" is the wrong word, or CAN be the wrong word. If you kill and you know it's WRONG to kill, I think it generates a certain karma (very "bad" karma) and if you kill and DON'T fully inderstand it's wrong to kill (say you still eat meat) you're generating a whole other karma there too, presumably not as severe, but still some, and it will keep you on the loop and enforce that pennance upon you till you don't kill any more.

    A soldier is basically a robot. He does not think, only react. His sin, if there is one (again, depends on his frame of reference) lies, like an alcoholic, in the moments of more clear and conscious deliberation that occurred with himself BEFORE signing up for the military. Just like the alcoholic's sin does not occur when he kills someone while drunk behind the wheel, but when he was SOBER and deliberated the decision to take the first drink, knowing he was going to drive home.

    Now in the case of men from whatever country that are DRAFTED... their karma is certainly even less, although they're still just churnin' that loop of ignorance and death, and so they are attached to that reality. That is their karma. And for soldiers who enlisted to get a better position or become an officer before being drafted, or women or even men who took a military job cause these recruiters can get a $100 bonus this month and never thought they'd see combat because they were TOLD they'd never see combat or have to kill anyone and then, guess what?...

    The universe judges (reacts and retributes the) INTENT. That's why our laws (gladly) generally make a distinction between inadvertent "crime" and INTNET.
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  • regurgitated abortion-Regent of Indecency-In My Bitches I Trust

    No, it is not a sin

    it's more like self-defense.
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    artso June 07, 2009 01:37:07
    artso

    No, it is not a sin

    It's no sin!! God bless those men and women that are protecting us now.
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    Diomedes June 07, 2009 01:27:49
    Diomedes

    No, it is not a sin

    I can see how Christians DO think it`s a sin,but I`m sure even God would agree that agree that to kill for your own self-defense is justified,and during war you`re not only defending your country but in many cases yourself and your family.So no,in most cases,it is not a sin to kill on the battlefield.But if your reason for war is the extermination of a certain group,than yes it is a sin.
  • Jennifer June 07, 2009 01:26:27
    Jennifer

    No, it is not a sin

    It's Not A Sin Unless U Kill People Of The Community Of God
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    Aysohmay Jennifer June 07, 2009 02:12:14
    Aysohmay
    Wait, its ok to kill people, as long as they're not Christians? Is that what you're saying? If so, thats pretty close-minded of you to say.
  • Jennifer Aysohmay June 07, 2009 02:42:05
    Jennifer
    I Guess I Do Have Close-Mind And I'm Proud Of It
  • Zac June 07, 2009 01:21:59
    Zac

    Undecided

    if the war is out of hate to someone else then it is a sin but if you are protecting the people or their rights then it is not a sin
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    awill192 June 07, 2009 01:21:39
    awill192

    No, it is not a sin

    There are exceptions for self defense. And killing someone on the battlefield who hasn't surrendered is clearly self defense.
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