Is Islam a sick-minded religion for commanding that people be stoned to death, beheaded or otherwise killed for no justifiable reason?

by tncdel Posted 2011/08/01 09:55:18

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	YES [explain why you think so].	82 votes	63%
	NO [explain why not].	48 votes	37%

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Dark Demonic™ ★ The Origina... 2011/08/01 11:33:28

NO [explain why not].

+16
Prove to us that these things do indeed happen and that when they do they happen for no justifiable reason.

"Muslims say the Western world misrepresents Sharia by focusing on beheadings in Saudi Arabia and other gruesome punishments. The equivalent, they say, would be a debate about the history of Western law focused on America's electric chair.

Some modern Muslim scholars say that while Sharia includes provisions for capital and corporal punishment, getting to that stage is in fact quite difficult.

The most famous Muslim thinker in Europe, Tariq Ramadan, has called for a moratorium on these penalties in the Muslim world.

He argues that the conditions under which such penalties would be legal are almost impossible to re-establish in today's world."

Source: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk...
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Simo Ali to Simo Ali 2011/08/02 00:22:13

And he didn't do nothing to her why ?

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cccp~ma... to Space I... 2011/08/02 02:22:39

Here we go again, Saying all Islam is bad based on something less significant.

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none 2011/08/01 16:31:10

YES [explain why you think so].

+4
It's a religion that plays on the ignorance of those that follow it, other religions have progressed past the dark ages but not Islam, it's the black plague of the 21st century killing the inocent.

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Natalie 2011/08/01 16:30:16

NO [explain why not].

+2
those are exremists--they should not resresent the whole entire population of muslims.

"exlpain why not" why don't those who voted yes explain why they are ignorant bigots??

People have a right to have a religion and believe in what they want--GET OVER IT

THE ANTI RELIGIOUS ARE JUST AS WORSE AS THE EXTREMISTS

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Whizzy 2011/08/01 16:24:32

NO [explain why not].

+3
what is the difference with the bible

Kill People Who Don't Listen to Priests (Deuteronomy 17:12 NLT)
Kill Witches (Exodus 22:17 NAB)
Kill Homosexuals (Leviticus 20:13 NAB)
Kill Fortunetellers (Leviticus 20:27 NAB)
Death for Hitting Dad (Exodus 21:15 NAB)
Death for Cursing Parents (Proverbs 20:20 NAB) (Leviticus 20:9 NLT)
Death for Adultery (Leviticus 20:10 NLT)
Death for Fornication (Leviticus 21:9 NAB)
Death to Followers of Other Religions (Exodus 22:19 NAB)
Kill Nonbelievers (2 Chronicles 15:12-13 NAB)
Kill False Prophets (Zechariah 13:3 NAB)
Kill the Entire Town if One Person Worships Another God (Deuteronomy 13:13-19 NLT)
Kill Women Who Are Not Virgins On Their Wedding Night (Deuteronomy 22:20-21 NAB)
Kill Followers of Other Religions (Deuteronomy 13:7-12 NAB) (Deuteronomy 17:2-5 NLT)
Death for Blasphemy (Leviticus 24:10-16 NLT)
Kill False Prophets (Deuteronomy 13:1-5 NLT) (Deuteronomy 18:20-22 NLT)
Infidels and Gays Should Die (Romans 1:24-32 NLT)
Kill Anyone who Approaches the Tabernacle (Numbers 1:48-51 NLT)
The Danites Kill the Next Town (Joshua 19:47 NAB)
God Kills Some More (Jeremiah 15:1-4 NLT)
God Promises More Killing (Ezekiel 35:7-9 NLT)
The Angel of Death (Exodus 23:23 NAB)
Destruction of Ai (Joshua 8:1-29 NLT)

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Emanon to Whizzy 2011/08/01 19:46:06

+1
Agreed, I was just about to put quotes from the bible that tells to kill people for idiotic reasons.

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cccp~ma... to Whizzy 2011/08/01 20:48:53

The Bible seems stupid, but many Christians don't take it that far, so they are not all bad.

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Zeruke to Whizzy 2011/08/01 21:22:26

Exodus 22:19 is about sexual conduct with animal what you should put is Exodus 22:20
....haven't looked into the other ones but still you did put the wrong thing for following other religions

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Whizzy to Zeruke 2011/08/01 22:34:26 (edited)

thats 22:18 in the NAB (new American Standard Bible)
http://www.biblegateway.com/p...
your right when we take the King James Version
http://www.biblegateway.com/p...

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Zeruke to Whizzy 2011/08/01 22:51:01

doesnt look like it on my end http://www.biblegateway.com/p...

im seeing "Exodus 22 (New American Standard Bible)" on my end and when i go to verse 18-21 i get:

18 “You shall not allow a sorceress to live.

19 “Whoever lies with an animal shall surely be put to death.

20 “He who sacrifices to [r]any god, other than to the LORD alone, shall be [s]utterly destroyed.

21 “You shall not wrong a stranger or oppress him, for you were strangers in the land of Egypt. 22 You shall not afflict any widow or orphan. 23 If you afflict him at all, and if he does cry out to Me, I will surely hear his cry; 24 and My anger will be kindled, and I will kill you with the sword, and your wives shall become widows and your children fatherless.

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Whizzy to Zeruke 2011/08/01 23:01:10

weird cause i see it on other pages as well like
http://www.usccb.org/nab/bibl...
18
"Anyone who lies with an animal shall be put to death.
19
"Whoever sacrifices to any god, except to the LORD alone, shall be doomed.

is there a difference between the New American Bible and the New American Standard Bible, one would think so, i assumed it was the same one

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Zeruke to Whizzy 2011/08/01 23:21:39

most likely....theres always these weird textual corruptions that occur because of it being translations and sometimes people intentionally change things

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Whizzy to Zeruke 2011/08/02 01:04:03

I have retracted the last line i wrote in my initial response to you and apologize for it. In fact i like to thank you for pointing me to something i never realized
I have several versions.of the bible at home. Both the the "Staten Bijbel" and "Nieuwe Staten Bijbel"which are the old and new version of the official Dutch Bible, a "Jehovah Witnesses Bible" a "Momon Bible"(and Book Of Momon of course) and a King James version. I never compared them side by side before but sure enough they show the same shifts in verses when i checked.

Your comment provides me with hours of fun research for which my thanks and gratitude

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Zeruke to Whizzy 2011/08/02 01:10:05

no worries and your welcome

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nicki jay 2011/08/01 16:18:59

YES [explain why you think so].

+1
islam lacks love thats how we know it is not of God

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cccp~ma... to nicki jay 2011/08/01 22:54:24

You can't really say that, because many Muslims are loving, and that would be generalizing.

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nicki jay to cccp~ma... 2011/08/01 23:08:57

ill rephrase then their actions lack love they don't follow Jesus' example

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cccp~ma... to nicki jay 2011/08/01 23:12:24

Who cares if they don't follow your religion. You have to except their beliefs, not there laws or take over. A country with freedom of religion must embrace it.

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nicki jay to cccp~ma... 2011/08/01 23:27:47

i don't follow any religion my faith isn't about religion Jesus bring this freedom

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cccp~ma... to nicki jay 2011/08/02 02:24:41

+1
That's a religion.

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nicki jay to cccp~ma... 2011/08/02 04:14:02

no it aint

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cccp~ma... to nicki jay 2011/08/02 04:16:36

Anyone who worships Jesus Christ is religious.

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nicki jay to cccp~ma... 2011/08/02 04:31:35

anyone who remains in a denomination of religion is religious Jesus is free from being in a denomination since he resides in us

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cccp~ma... to nicki jay 2011/08/02 04:40:12

+1
That is a spiritual belief, worshiping him, therefore it is religious.

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nicki jay to cccp~ma... 2011/08/02 04:45:28

you need to study a bit before accepting what you are saying.

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cccp~ma... to nicki jay 2011/08/02 21:21:11

Look up religion in the dictionary.

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nicki jay to cccp~ma... 2011/08/03 20:42:36

religion is man made, following and believing in Jesus sets us apart from any religion think you need to google what religion means

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cccp~ma... to nicki jay 2011/08/03 22:08:15

But Jesus is also man made.

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nicki jay to cccp~ma... 2011/08/03 22:13:21

hope you find him and realise he is the real deal find out who he was is and always will be why he came what for and why he is coming back

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cccp~ma... to nicki jay 2011/08/03 22:42:34

Hahaha! I don't believe that. You can believe that, but it's a religion.

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nicki jay to cccp~ma... 2011/08/03 23:03:38

okay wait til religion is banned and then Jesus comes back as he promises will you still think the same then or would you be wishing you'd searched more for truth

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cccp~ma... to nicki jay 2011/08/03 23:46:33

Right now, the truth is science because it has modern sources and it uses simple logic. If for some reason there was evidence of Jesus, I would believe in him.

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nicki jay to cccp~ma... 2011/08/03 23:50:56

God is science created all things scientific gravity, magnetic field, dna, etc Jesus said "happy are those who believe without seeing, some people need to see things to believe, study history for evidence of Jesus, God is everywhere creation give us a glimpse of who he is is power

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cccp~ma... to nicki jay 2011/08/03 23:57:04

Seriously, I don't guess things just because some religion told me to. I believe the reality. You can believe what you want, but I disagree.

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nicki jay to cccp~ma... 2011/08/03 23:58:44

we all have free will follow God's way or your own, the world is in a mess since man thinks he can got it alone just like Adam in the garden of eden look where that got us all!!!

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nicki jay to nicki jay 2011/08/03 23:59:16

luckily we are blessed with Jesus that we can be put right as a child of God again

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cccp~ma... to nicki jay 2011/08/04 01:24:59

Enough with the religious talk. I'm not a Christian.

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nicki jay to cccp~ma... 2011/08/04 01:27:52

+1
i gathered that a long time ago in our chats, hope to chat elsewhere in sodahead maybe we can find something we can agree on bye for now take care

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jubil8 BN-0 PON 2011/08/01 15:59:34

NO [explain why not].

+2
Imo, tncdel, Islam isn't a religion -- it's a political system. Religion is one part of it, but I don't think that most of its followers support stoning, beheading, etc. The fundamentalists (Taliban, etc.) are indeed sick-minded imo. Muslims have to find their own ways to fight fundamentalism.

Many religions appear to go through similar growth cycles. I think it's just that modern communications are so far superior to what existed 2,000 years ago that today everyone can read about the "atrocities" of those who believe differently. St. Stephen was stoned to death ("the first Christian martyr," was he not?), but the folks in China probably didn't get the word for a long time (if ever). Suttee had existed in India for centuries before the Brits came.

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