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Is Infanticide Murder?

Marlow ~ Let There Be Light 2011/09/14 12:34:31
Babies are not human; infanticide is morally acceptable.
I can't believe people kill children.  What has this world come to?
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EDMONTON, Alberta, September 12, 2011 (LifeSiteNews.com) – An Alberta judge has let a woman who strangled her newborn son walk free by arguing that Canada’s absence of a law on abortion signals that Canadians “sympathize” with the mother.


“We live in a country where there is no protection for children in the womb right up until birth and now this judge has extended the protection for the perpetrator rather than the victim, even though the child is born and as such should be protected by the court,” said Jim Hughes, national president of Campaign Life Coalition.


Katrina Effert of Wetaskiwin, Alberta gave birth secretly in her parents’ downstairs bathroom on April 13, 2005, and then later strangled the newborn and threw his body over a fence. She was 19 at the time.


She has been found guilty of second-degree murder by two juries, but both times the judgment was thrown out by the appeals court. In May, the Alberta Court of Appeal overturned her 2009 murder conviction and replaced it with the lesser charge of infanticide.


On Friday, Effert got a three-year suspended sentence from Justice Joanne Veit of the Alberta Court of Queen’s Bench. As a result, she was able to walk out of court, though she will have to abide by certain conditions.


According to Justice Veit, Canada’s lack of an abortion law indicates that “while many Canadians undoubtedly view abortion as a less than ideal solution to unprotected sex and unwanted pregnancy, they generally understand, accept and sympathize with the onerous demands pregnancy and childbirth exact from mothers, especially mothers without support.”


“Naturally, Canadians are grieved by an infant’s death, especially at the hands of the infant’s mother, but Canadians also grieve for the mother,” she added.


Under Canada’s Criminal Code, a woman who has not “fully recovered” from the effects of birth can be found guilty of the lesser charge of infanticide. To bring forward the infanticide defense, which carries a maximum sentence of five years, there must be evidence that the woman’s mind was disturbed.


http://www.lifesitenews.com/judge-rules-no-jail-time-for-infa...



This is beyond words. I’m so shocked that I can’t even express outrage. But outrage at who, the mother or the judge? I can kind of see how a young woman might feel trapped enough to do such a crazy thing, though it’s inexcusable. I’m actually more shocked at the judge for his twisted, sick logic. He is acting out of some calculated value system. The mother is sinful, the judge is evil.

Infanticide is a lesser charge than murder? What? Why is it not the same as murder? Disgraceful! Outrageous!




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  • Jen 2011/09/14 14:39:41
    I can't believe people kill children. What has this world come to?
    Jen
    +7
    The only word that leaps to mind here is a simple four-letter one.

    Evil.

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  • britnee hemphill 2011/09/16 08:09:51
    I can't believe people kill children. What has this world come to?
    britnee hemphill
    +1
    Babies are people, too! whether they are still inside the belly or not! I believe abortion is murder, so, therefore, this is also murder!! It makes me so sad that people don't appreciate their beautiful gifts!! I have been trying to have a baby for a year and a half and can't imagine thinking this is okay!!
  • Marlow ... britnee... 2011/09/16 11:48:13
    Marlow ~ Let There Be Light
    +1
    I agree. Thank you.
  • britnee... Marlow ... 2011/09/17 04:57:43
    britnee hemphill
    +4
    No need to thank me! Just trying to defend those who can't defend themselves. :)
  • Marlow ... britnee... 2011/09/19 12:18:05
    Marlow ~ Let There Be Light
    +1
    God bless you.
  • britnee... Marlow ... 2011/09/20 05:14:21
    britnee hemphill
    +2
    and you :)
  • Brian Tristan MacQuillan 2011/09/15 06:43:52 (edited)
    I can't believe people kill children. What has this world come to?
    Brian Tristan MacQuillan
    +2
    If this train of thought were used in the United States in regards to the 2nd Ammendment, I would be allowed to own, and tote around a fully automatic 50 caliber machine gun.

    Could you imagine the outrage?

    The media coverage?

    The hand wringing?

    The teeth nashing?
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    A murder of a helpless little human being, not a peep.
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  • Marlow ... Brian T... 2011/09/16 11:48:55
    Marlow ~ Let There Be Light
    +2
    Thanks for your thoughts.
  • ~Pro-Fetus Anti-Liberal Ant... 2011/09/15 02:36:13
    I can't believe people kill children. What has this world come to?
    ~Pro-Fetus Anti-Liberal Anti-Atheist~
    +3
    Anyone who finds this acceptable on ANY level is ruled directly by Satan.
  • Marlow ... ~Pro-Fe... 2011/09/15 03:49:23
    Marlow ~ Let There Be Light
    +2
    I've come to a similar conclusion. Thanks.
  • Brian T... ~Pro-Fe... 2011/09/16 21:07:56
    Brian Tristan MacQuillan
    +3
    Do not worry, the Almighty has a way of dealing with such evil.
    worry almighty dealing evil Satan
  • Angel 2011/09/15 02:28:03
    I can't believe people kill children. What has this world come to?
    Angel
    +4
    I think abortion is murder, and certainly after the baby is born and strangled is murder also, how could anyone think anything else...
  • Marlow ... Angel 2011/09/15 03:49:44
    Marlow ~ Let There Be Light
    +3
    I know it. Thanks Angel.
  • Diana 2011/09/14 22:51:55 (edited)
    I can't believe people kill children. What has this world come to?
    Diana
    +3
    It's murder.How would they like Adulticide.Aren't they both human?
  • Marlow ... Diana 2011/09/15 01:47:26
    Marlow ~ Let There Be Light
    +3
    Thanks.
  • ILuvMonkeys 2011/09/14 20:06:31
  • Marlow ... ILuvMon... 2011/09/14 20:08:06
    Marlow ~ Let There Be Light
    +3
    I agree. Thanks.
  • Stuart 2011/09/14 16:53:45
    I can't believe people kill children. What has this world come to?
    Stuart
    +3
    According to one of Obama's Healthcare Czars, Peter Singer, a "bio-ethicist", up until the age of two, children are not "self-aware" so therefore if necessary, it is perfectly acceptable to kill the child (He also thinks that animals should have legal representation in court against humans.)

    http://www.equip.org/articles...

    But, this isn't really new. Partial Birth Abortion induced labor, produced a breach birth so that the head was all that remained in the birth canal then the doctor would suck out the brains of the "fetus" before delivering the remainder of the head. That was promoted as "safer" for the other than "giving birth" and promoted as a way to save the life of the mother.

    They claim that killing a baby while still inside of her body is a "woman's choice" but it is really just a stepping stone to killing anyone that is not desirable or wanted in America. Planned Parenthood was created and continues as a means to eliminate the "black and yellow" and "mentally unfit" in our society.
  • Marlow ... Stuart 2011/09/14 17:07:26
    Marlow ~ Let There Be Light
    +2
    You are so right. Singer is as much an "ethcist" as Hitler.
  • TedStevens 2011/09/14 16:31:14
    I can't believe people kill children. What has this world come to?
    TedStevens
    +3
    It's basically a full birth abortion, and the standing laws allow this.
  • Marlow ... TedStevens 2011/09/14 16:35:52
    Marlow ~ Let There Be Light
    +2
    Well, they seem to in Canada. Repulsive.
  • TedStevens Marlow ... 2011/09/14 16:37:43
    TedStevens
    +4
    and they say we're evil.
  • Cindy64~AFCL 2011/09/14 16:18:51 (edited)
    I can't believe people kill children. What has this world come to?
    Cindy64~AFCL
    +3
    There are SICKO'S out there..one being the Mother the other the damn MORON JUDGE!! The Mother murdered her own newborn baby and got AWAY WITH IT !! So sad God is holding this little angel in heaven!!! mother murdered newborn baby sad god holding angel heaven jesus holding a aborted baby
  • Marlow ... Cindy64... 2011/09/14 16:36:25
    Marlow ~ Let There Be Light
    +2
    Thank you. Lord have mercy.
  • Cindy64... Marlow ... 2011/09/14 16:40:24
    Cindy64~AFCL
    +2
    You are welcome and yes Lord have mercy!!!
  • jubil8 BN-0 PON 2011/09/14 15:59:11
    Babies are not human; infanticide is morally acceptable.
    jubil8 BN-0 PON
    I chose this answer because it's the sillier of the 2 choices.

    If Canada makes a legal distinction between "murder" and "infanticide," that's for Canadians to deal with. Morality is, as usual, irrelevant.

    If you want to have a sensible discussion on the topic, Marlow, you should offer some sensible answers that allow people to express THEIR opinions, not accept your black/white options.
  • Marlow ... jubil8 ... 2011/09/14 16:37:38
    Marlow ~ Let There Be Light
    +5
    Oh really. How about society decides to kill you or your children and we make that distinction. Thanks for your repulsive answer.
  • jubil8 ... Marlow ... 2011/09/14 19:24:44
    jubil8 BN-0 PON
    You're welcome.
  • Cindy64... Marlow ... 2011/09/14 20:58:05
    Cindy64~AFCL
    +3
    Really it is a very repulsive answer.!!!!!!
  • ~Pro-Fe... Marlow ... 2011/09/15 02:39:02
    ~Pro-Fetus Anti-Liberal Anti-Atheist~
    +4
    I was going to respond to her, but realized that I had blocked her for a previous disgusting pro-baby killing comment she made. I still can't believe that they allow psych ward patients like her, internet access. :(
  • Marlow ... ~Pro-Fe... 2011/09/15 03:51:00
    Marlow ~ Let There Be Light
    +4
    I haven't come across her before, but she's obviously an animal.
  • jean 2011/09/14 15:55:07
    I can't believe people kill children. What has this world come to?
    jean
    +5
    Childrens' lives are not valued as adult lives are.
  • Cindy64... jean 2011/09/14 16:20:27
    Cindy64~AFCL
    +5
    Sad but TRUE!!!
  • Marlow ... jean 2011/09/14 16:38:15
    Marlow ~ Let There Be Light
    +5
    It's true. It's power over the powerless.
  • Cindy64... Marlow ... 2011/09/14 20:57:16
    Cindy64~AFCL
    +4
    Oh yes so TRUE!!
  • Jen 2011/09/14 14:39:41
    I can't believe people kill children. What has this world come to?
    Jen
    +7
    The only word that leaps to mind here is a simple four-letter one.

    Evil.
  • Marlow ... Jen 2011/09/14 15:01:43
    Marlow ~ Let There Be Light
    +4
    Agreed.
  • Cindy64... Jen 2011/09/14 16:20:44
    Cindy64~AFCL
    +3
    you are 100% RIGHT!!!
  • Lee The Hybrid Snowflake 2011/09/14 14:12:24
    I can't believe people kill children. What has this world come to?
    Lee The Hybrid Snowflake
    +4
    I can;t see where one has anything to do with the other. She murdered someone in this case a baby. Case closed!
  • Marlow ... Lee The... 2011/09/14 15:01:58
    Marlow ~ Let There Be Light
    +4
    I agree. Thanks.
  • Stuart Lee The... 2011/09/14 16:58:46
    Stuart
    +3
    But most people who support abortion or infanticide don't agree that she murdered someone. They would say a baby is not a "person" yet as long as they aren't old enough to realized they are alive and are not "self-aware".

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