Is human civilization a success or failure?
R7494
2012/05/12 17:13:56
This is a question to which I do not have a clear answer. What I do know is that I have had doubts. It seems very possible to me that civilization may be the fraud and the lie that has led to so many others that have led to such high expectations when in fact humans are just an animal species led by instincts of survival, territoriality, and reproduction that we disguise with civilized language.
For instance, human civilization has indeed been genius enough to construct massive architectural masterpieces formed from science and mathematics and devices created out of genius. But have all these creations really benefited the human species in the long run? Countries face overpopulation, humans are so numerous and expanding that we have destroyed much of the world's ecosystems, we have driven multiple animal and plant species to extinction, and our political systems have consistently failed to deliver their utopian promises of a "better world" - instead more commonly delivering red-tape bureaucratic corruption or war.
With people so apathetic about the political process, and the irrational partisan politics or politics based on scapegoating, I am quite literally asking whether human civilization is worth the costs and were humans better off as being at the same level with other animal species before civilization arose?
For instance, human civilization has indeed been genius enough to construct massive architectural masterpieces formed from science and mathematics and devices created out of genius. But have all these creations really benefited the human species in the long run? Countries face overpopulation, humans are so numerous and expanding that we have destroyed much of the world's ecosystems, we have driven multiple animal and plant species to extinction, and our political systems have consistently failed to deliver their utopian promises of a "better world" - instead more commonly delivering red-tape bureaucratic corruption or war.
With people so apathetic about the political process, and the irrational partisan politics or politics based on scapegoating, I am quite literally asking whether human civilization is worth the costs and were humans better off as being at the same level with other animal species before civilization arose?
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Xerxes,Phantom of PHAET 2012/05/12 17:16:18Human civilization is a complete failure, it is a fraud based on human suprem...+5I can tell you from personal experience, humans only project a thin veneer of civility


















I have written a story about what I am more concerned about, that is when some sort of methodical, organized political person becomes far more disillusioned and angry than I or others here could be on this matter, and becomes some kind of anarcho-naturalist revolutionary terrorist who wants to attempt to methodically destroy civilization, step by step - in a Marxian-like development of dissolution. They would fight with modern-day weapons in the beginning - justifying it as necessary to fight with such weapons at first to be able to compete and infl...
I have written a story about what I am more concerned about, that is when some sort of methodical, organized political person becomes far more disillusioned and angry than I or others here could be on this matter, and becomes some kind of anarcho-naturalist revolutionary terrorist who wants to attempt to methodically destroy civilization, step by step - in a Marxian-like development of dissolution. They would fight with modern-day weapons in the beginning - justifying it as necessary to fight with such weapons at first to be able to compete and inflict significant damage on civilization, and would claim that later such technology would no longer be needed. It may seem like a joke, and I know that it would fail because human organization to achieve any political goal - no matter what it is - is often begun, and is always infiltrated by, narcissists. And a dangerous narcissist with violent behaviour when they gain the power and the autonomy they desire, they will massacre people, and develop their cause into a cult of fanatics. Such a fanatic movement would be like the old anarchists of the late 19th century - bombing places, killing world leaders, but probably not achieving much else but lost life and grief for those who would suffer because of their fanaticism - but if they truly believed in what they were doing they would be a dangerous menace.
When people come to the conclusion that something that they believed in or were indoctrinated to believe in is nonsense or fraud they have three options: repression (ignoring it), realizing it is comedy (acceptance that it exists, but thinking it is a stupid thing to live with), or opposition.(fighting it). Though the last option seems more courageous, it is the most dangerous - the experience of history reveals that we only consider people "courageous" if they achieved something intended and admirable result, they are considered "foolhardy" if the same behaviour produces an undesired pathetic result. Thus I prefer to view much of civilization as comedy.
'fraudulent' companies selling bogus;
junk food ads spammed all over television;
a society that places looks above all else along with that great desire to always have the latest trends;
the majority of the global populance so naive as to laugh at these very same dangers here. *sigh*
In terms of happiness, I don't think it matters if we're civilized or not. Problems will arise no matter how you live, and I don't believe happiness is correlated to the amount of complications one has in one's life, but to the amount of importance one attaches to different things.
I think you'd like this song.
" Live and Learn "
I pray that we do,
and, honestly
believe that
we have ~
and will...
Peace
;0 )